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prairie_princess
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Elizabeth
Carpenter WY
USA
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 :  11:23:35 AM  Show Profile
I just want to cry sometimes! I feel like I should have figured this out by now...

my neighbor gave me a high altitude tip book and i've tried many of the tips. but it feels like it's hit or miss on every occasion....

sometimes things come out perfect, other times a horrible failure! especially with non-yeast breads. i make amish friendship bread... last time i added shredded zucchini and raisins, split the batter into 3 bread pans so it was less than half full and they came out perfect. i did the same thing this time and the middle just wouldn't cook! i did at frozen strawberries, so i wonder if there was too much moisture when it cooked... but i've use frozen cranberries before and they always come out perfect!

i switched to pyrex bread pans from non-stick type because the non-stick coating kept chipping off. i cook them longer like you're supposed to do... and for the most part it works. but i'm finding even when i'm baking my regular white yeast bread, the middle just doesn't want to cook all the way. and then the outside is very brown!

i've tried different racks in the oven... added an extra egg...

i'm just so frustrated!

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Sheep Mom 2
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Sheri
Elk WA
USA
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 :  1:05:52 PM  Show Profile
I don't know what your elevation is but I grew up in Tahoe (right between 6,000 to 7,000 ft). I always added a little more yeast than the recipe called for and raised them a bit longer than I would here at this elevation, and then compensated with a little longer baking time. Frozen strawberries make a ton of juice whereas cranberries little or nothing. I'd say the strawberries were the issue on that one. Do you rotate your pans in the oven? Have you checked your oven temp with an oven thermometer? Pay attention to the weather....my friend lives in Nevada in the high desert and if the barometer is taking a big dip in either direction breads won't bake. Hope that helps.

Blessings, Sheri

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Aunt Jenny
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Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
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Posted - Mar 11 2010 :  5:20:00 PM  Show Profile
The weather makes a huge difference for sure. And I agree with Sheri about the strawberries...I have made that mistake before in muffins. It took me awhile to get used to high altitude baking too (we are at 5,500) but I am used to it mostly now after nearly 8 years. Good luck!

Jenny in Utah
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prairie_princess
True Blue Farmgirl

613 Posts

Elizabeth
Carpenter WY
USA
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Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  2:24:44 PM  Show Profile
i think we are around 5,800... i do rotate my pans in the oven, i do have a thermometer. and it is funny how well things will turn out during some weather or atmospheric pressure! but i can't always wait until the weather is right to bake... :( i think the strawberries did affect the bread this time.

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jpbluesky
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Jeannie
Florida
USA
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Posted - Mar 12 2010 :  4:57:49 PM  Show Profile
I have had the opposite problem. When I follow recipes in MJF or here on the site that Western girls put out there, many time they flop. I did not fare so well with the sourdough bread either, even though I had a great time trying, and followed the recipe to a T. Even the MJF bread pouches I purchase do not come out right. I figured I was at too low of an altitude here in Florida. Good luck on your recipes!!! You will get the hang of it, I am sure.

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prairie_princess
True Blue Farmgirl

613 Posts

Elizabeth
Carpenter WY
USA
613 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2010 :  5:22:03 PM  Show Profile
wow, cooking really is an art, then... i never thought of having problems cooking at low altitude, too... i don't remember having problems when i lived in Hawaii. So, basically, depending on the recipe, if you live at any extreme altitude, you'll have to adjust something. i suppose i'll have to crack down and learn the science involved with cooking!

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grace gerber
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grace
larkspur colorado
USA
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Posted - Mar 17 2010 :  5:13:00 PM  Show Profile
I have lived in Colorado at high altitude all my life and still have to watch out when trying new recipes. Flours also have a big effect in high altitude. When adding wet fruits or veggies to a batter I found you have to make the batter a bit drier because the moisture will really effect the outcome. I also in the last 10 minutes place a bit of foil over the bread so it does not burn but will cook that center. If you have chickens they sure love when I am trying a new recipe - so does the Great Pry's. I think sometimes they are willing it to fail.. Good luck and just know we are all juggling in thin air

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Roxy7
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Robin
Denver CO
USA
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Posted - Mar 18 2010 :  9:43:13 PM  Show Profile
Have you checked your oven to make sure its the same temp? when some ovens go out they jump temps all over the place. You can buy a thermometer to check that. I have never had a problem baking at our altitude. I sometimes forget to adjust for altitude and is still turns out. Whats your elev?
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