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Barnyard Buddies:  All Things Dairy (Goats, Cows and Sheep)  |
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HemetGardener
True Blue Farmgirl
573 Posts
Terri
Hemet
CA
USA
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 Posted - Feb 23 2013 : 9:55:47 PM
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Bella, of course.
Terri
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2013 : 11:53:42 AM
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well she would not let me grab her 2 babies. she tried to eat me. so i put hay in there for warmth. did not work both babies are dead this morning. i called the owners 5 times yesterday. they returned the call at 7. i was at dinner. so very sad. i hated this.
the learn as we go silk purse farm
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2013 : 4:38:25 PM
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So sorry, Sherrye. I bet they were so small. And you did all you could do.
Terri, all my animals have the last name Belle. And I have an Annabelle too. I love the name!
Had to go to town again today. And when we got back, there was Darla in the stall, already had one lamb on the ground. I went in to grab some things and came out to check on her. Right about then another one came flying out! I think he was backewards too. The first lamb was still laying down for awhile. He's still a little slow going. I gave him some lamd Nutridrench a few times and made sure they both had colostrum. I gave Darla a 5 gallon bucket of molasses water and she sucked it down. And ate good. I dried them both off real good. Wool sure takes awhile to get good and dry. They are so cute.
#7 is in the front and #8 in behind him.
And Gracie and Fiona look like they could have theirs any minute too. There is the biggest full moon out there tonight. So we shall see. But the sheep usually have lambs during the day. So hopefully they'll wait til the morning. I'm tired.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2013 : 4:45:11 PM
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This is Leelah's ewe lamb born yesterday afternoon. She is SO pretty. But a single. And Leelah had a single ewe lamb last year. So I will probably not keep her. I think I'll see if Gracie and Fiona have twins. If they have ewes I'll keep them. I am really not happy that she only had a single. I'm happy she's healthy though. But I would have liked to have gotten at least twins from her this year.
And forgot to say that Darla had ram lambs. She also had a single ram lamb last year. So far they are pretty consistant. I have kept Darla's ram from last year and he has hopefully successfully bred the 4 youngest ewes for May or June lambs.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 06:59:35 AM
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kris, they are sooo cute. i am betting your a busy girl now. how many sheep do you have counting babies? are you selling some of the baby goats? do sheep usually have multiples on first go round? has anyone else made soap lately? i just picked up more lye. i am making a simple rich bar. lately i have been adding my cow milk to it. it sure turns out nice. well i have the flu. darn so need to get chores done and a house in tumalo. papa is going with me so that is good. our weather is supposed to turn nice and warm. i am sooo ready. i will be watching to hear updates from all you farmgirls. i am going to start shopping for a horse or mule after april 10th. happy days ahead for me. we have B.L.M. land by us so i can take my yorkie and ride.
the learn as we go silk purse farm
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 07:03:42 AM
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This is Gracie's ram lamb, #9.
And this is her ewe lamb, #10.
So far 3 ewes have had 5 lambs, 3 rams and 2 ewes. Fiona is getting ready to lamb now. She's in the middle stall, checking out the accomodations. Leelah and her ewe lamb wanted to outside this morning. So out they went.
Darla is not doing too good this morning. She's moaning and groaning. Had a nasty rear from runny poop. I gave her all kinds of things. Called the vet. He'll be here in a few hours. I want him to look at Abby, who had a foamy mouth this morning, and Zarah, who had twins Sat morning and is not eating or drinking now. I am wondering what is going on with all these sick animals right now. So far, Penelope is the only goat that has not had anything wrong with her. And so far, Leelah is the only ewe with nothing wrong. I am hoping Gracie will be ok.
So please say a prayer for me and these goats and sheep. They all need it.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 07:08:35 AM
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Here are Zarah's 2 kids. Buck on the left and doe on right.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
www.kris-outbackfarm.blogspot.com |
Edited by - kristin sherrill on Feb 25 2013 07:09:45 AM |
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
3775 Posts |
Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 08:51:26 AM
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sending you love hugs support and prayers for this to work out.
the learn as we go silk purse farm
farm girl #1014
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
1096 Posts
Laura
Lindrith
NM
USA
1096 Posts |
Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 09:06:25 AM
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Beautiful babies Kristin. The symptoms you are describing in your sick ones makes 2 things come to mind from my experience. 1 is clostridium The other is if they might be getting into some kind of poison. My goats got out one time when I was gone and got into some prairie dog poison on the neighbors porch. It was in a plastic bucket with a lid that they managed to get open and was in pellet form. It killed the whole herd. 9 or so. The symptoms were similar to what you are describing. Is there maybe some old paint or something that your goats might be chewing on?
Laura
Horse poor in the boonies.
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 10:11:12 AM
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No, it's an old barn with no paint. The goats had been getting out but not since I sold the bad babies. Well, now Abby was out a few nights ago, back up in the corner where she's been going. But the other goats had been up there too at some point and nothing like she's doing. I just Googles frothy mouth in goats and got a few suggestions. I'll have the vet look at her teeth. I also gave her 3 slices of wheat bread just now and she sucked them down like water. Didn't even chew. So it could be her teeth. (Vet just called, He'll be here in about 45 minutes)
And Darla is still moaning. She'll get up and poop and the rams will nurse. I hope she makes it.
Thanks for the prayers.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
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AliciaNak
True Blue Farmgirl
405 Posts
Alicia
Elko
Nevada
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 1:32:36 PM
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Beautiful babies Kris. I hope Darla makes it through this.
Best wishes and prayers!
Alicia
Alicia
Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.~Ralph Waldo Emmerson
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
1096 Posts
Laura
Lindrith
NM
USA
1096 Posts |
Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 2:29:53 PM
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Clostridium makes them have a frothy mouth. A lot of people I know with goats have been having problems with it this year too. I lost one and one was sick but got over it (she had had vaccine for it but wasn't current the one that died hadn't had the shot) and 2 of my friends lost goats and had sick goats. One friend in Oklahoma and one in Colorado.
Laura
Horse poor in the boonies.
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 2:54:40 PM
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I am ready to give them all away right this minute. Now Gracie's not eating. WHAT IS WRONG?????????
Kris
Happiness is simple.
www.kris-outbackfarm.blogspot.com |
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
3775 Posts |
Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 5:26:59 PM
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so what happened with the vet kris? i hope you can get this figured out. i am checking to see how your night rounds went? hugs
the learn as we go silk purse farm
farm girl #1014
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 6:21:36 PM
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Sherrye, I wrote about it on my blog. Abby is nice and warm right now with a heat lamp on her. Everyone else is ok so far. Babies are all fine. Mommas not too good.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
3775 Posts |
Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 6:48:45 PM
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boy h boy kris you have had a week. hugs to you and what a good mama to get the dr. hopefully you will get it all figured out now.
the learn as we go silk purse farm
farm girl #1014
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HemetGardener
True Blue Farmgirl
573 Posts
Terri
Hemet
CA
USA
573 Posts |
Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 6:59:57 PM
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Kristin,
Glad the animals are doing better. Will pray for the momma.
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wincrestnubians
True Blue Farmgirl
76 Posts
Jennifer
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 03:54:16 AM
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A Very long re-post from Nubianchat humorous view of personality types in dairy goat breeds. Not mine! I stole it from the guy who posted it.... This is what I have observed over the past decades in the dairy goat breeds
(personal view and opinion.
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Alpines - they tend to be the HEAT SEEKING MISSILES of doom and
destruction; out to kill, with a vengeance! There have been actual cases
where a doe will fight almost to the death (and sometimes to the
detriment of the kids she is carrying, causing HERSELF to abort by not
stopping--even if she is WINNING the fight!). Of all the breeds, Alpines
have fought the 'dirtiest' ... being that as a breed I have seen more of
them 'gang up' on other goats (even other Alpines), rip and tear teats,
ears, flanks, and rear udders--even munching off the tips of another's
tail! There was a prominent line of Northwest Alpines that was easily
visible by the 'attitude' of his daughters, grand-daughters, and
sometimes into the third generation. Sadly or happily, those animals
were BEAUTIFUL and PRODUCTIVE... apparently worth the insanity to most
who owned them.
LaManchas - they have a tendency to be the Imps of the goat world; the
clowns of the barn, and the instigators of all that is troubling to the
goat owner -- sometimes being 'snapping turtles' to other breeds with
visible ears! If there is a flaw in barnyard security, a loose gate
latch, or even a new route to the rafters, it WILL be found by a LaMancha
-- I can't tell you how many times if a kid made it up and out, over and
through a feeder, a window, up a hay stack, over and through a horse
feeder, through the horse stalls, anything NOT where it was meant to be,
it would be a little earless wonder peering back and me wondering what I
was doing there--obviously SHE belonged there, after all, she was there--
and that was that! I was the one out of place in her mind!
Nubians - as a rule they have tended to be the most neurotic, needy, and
loud of all the breeds. The poster child for Prozac (goat or owner, take
your pick), but then again, there are a few exceptions within particular
bloodlines. In fact, one of the mellowest goats of all breeds I have
ever owned was a Nubian (recently).
Oberhasli - usually quiet and well mannered, with a slight bit of
inquisitiveness, usually mellow and playful, focused on "just being" and
going along with the flow. Independent enough to actually go out and
browse on their own, but just as happy to be with their "person" if they
are in the barnyard doing something.
Saanens - well, again if there were a breed that tends to be a poster
child, the Saanen would be one for "work ethics" within the dairy breeds.
Their laid back, usually mellow disposition within the herd is something
to behold (again, in my history with the breed). They tend to live up to
being a bit slow and ploddy, not getting overly excited nor caring too
much what is going on around them -- but don't think they will take being
pushed around too long. The Alpine biskit-girls may start it, but a
Saanen WILL FINISH it! (And yes, these white beauties can and will hold
a grudge).
Toggenburgs - Leave me alone, feed me, milk me, get out of my way, and
did I mention "leave me alone!" -- If a gnat farts in the barn the Togg
will hear it, snort the alarm, and be off like a flash. Eventually they
come back to earth, but not before a couple revolutions around the
barnyard! (again, just my experience with these deer-like creatures!).
All of these scenarios above have varied from the herd management where
they were raised, how they were raised (dam-raised or bottle babies,
etc.), what they were exposed to (such as outside visitors, children,
other animals, etc.).
When I am looking for stock I tend to watch for subtle hints of 'herd
personality' and general attitude of the goats, as I find many things
highly heritable when it comes to their adherence or deviation from what
I consider the 'norm' of the breed based on my experiences with them.
This was way to funny to not share it here.. Hope you all enjoyed it! :)
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
3775 Posts |
Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 07:19:46 AM
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wondering how your girls are today kris?
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SandraM
True Blue Farmgirl
295 Posts
Sandra
Coldwater
Michigan
USA
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Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 10:06:19 AM
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Jennifer, very funny :) I enjoyed the read. We had nubians and they were loud and crazy but we had one that was the sweetest, mildest goat we ever owned.
Oberhaslis are sweethearts (most of the time)
our Toggenburgs vary...most pretty friendly but not as excited to see us as the Oberhasli's.
Thanks for posting!
Sandra
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl
11303 Posts
kristin
chickamauga
ga
USA
11303 Posts |
Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 11:11:09 AM
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I always said Nubians were neurotic animals. And I have one. She's half crazy most of the time. But I've had her since she was a few days old. Wouldn't take a million dollars for her. She hates to be alone for sure. One time I forge=ot her in the milk room! Boy did she ever let me have it! Poor girl. I love her.
Then the LaManchas. Total sweeties. And SO quiet. I love all mine. Well, except for the Tazmanian Devil goat, ZeeBoo. Good grief, that goat can be at the barn one second then at the gate the next, just like that. And it's a far walk. She's all over the place, that's why I call her that. She's psycho. But Abby is my love. I've had the longest of all the goats. She's pretty special. Got me started on dairy goats.
I had a Togg-LaMancha cross doe once, Sadie Mae Belle. I loved that goat, but her milk was NASTY! Could not ever drink it. And all she had was boys. 5 of them. She was a beautiful goat though. But that milk.
I had a part Alpine too. One of my first goats. Didn't really know what she was til after I sold her. But she had good milk and a tiny udder but good teats for milking.
But I totally agree with those descriptions on the goats I have.
Sherrye, they are a little better but not out of the woods just yet. I just wormed all the new mothers with Valbazon. And the bucks and ram too.
Kris
Happiness is simple.
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
1096 Posts
Laura
Lindrith
NM
USA
1096 Posts |
Posted - Feb 27 2013 : 07:47:24 AM
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Jennifer that is so right on with my experience. I used to raise registered Saanens and I love them, they are definitely my favorite, second is nubians. They can be so sweet and pretty colors. Since I read your post maybe I will get an Oberhasli sometime. I have a saanen doe and a alpine lamancha cross doe right now. The saanen is so sweet and gives such good milk, but she is kind of psycho. She doesn't cry a lot but when she does it is sooooo loud. If one is standing next to her it will rattle the brain. All my other saanens I used to raise were pretty quiet and docile so Peggy is a little different..lol. I call her Peggy megaphone. If she's in heat she hollars like crazy, but that is a good thing cause at least I know. If she gets out she is 5 steps ahead of me, grrrrr. The other one I got a month or so ago. She is wild and was used for roping at gymkhanas. Idiots. So she is learning to trust humans. She is from a nice la mancha, alpine buck that I sold to a fellow years ago and from a la mancha doe. Is pretty cool cause I had to sell that buck cause I was taking care of my Dad who passed away in 2008 and I never got a kid from that buck, and he went to a fellow who bred him to this ladys goat and now I get back his only kid 5 yrs later. There is a cool story of how I got him too. I prayed for a nice buck cause I didnt have time or money (again taking care of my Dad) and he was delivered into my hand a week later at a fed x office from a lady who had a camper full of them. She was from a goat dairy and has nice goats but was headed to a mexican resteraunt with about 20 of them. I paid $10 for him. To me it is all a testimony of how God remembers our prayers and blesses us in unexpected ways even years later. Both of my does are bred to an alpine buck that I sold to a lady years ago and I can use him anytime. He is a big beautiful boy named Jethro. So we will see what we get. I have bred Jethro to my Saanen doe and got beautiful Saanen type kids twice before.
Laura
Horse poor in the boonies.
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HemetGardener
True Blue Farmgirl
573 Posts
Terri
Hemet
CA
USA
573 Posts |
Posted - Feb 27 2013 : 09:41:51 AM
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Thank you guys for those wonderful goat stories. I will probably never own one but I can have "Virtual Goats" Yes?
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl
1311 Posts
Linda
Manchester
Ohio
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Posted - Feb 27 2013 : 5:36:45 PM
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Well my first time freshner Pumpkin had her babies 3 days early. I had to help her deliver. The first one was just not coming because her birth canal was so tight. The second one was upside down and no legs. So I rotated that one and she came out okay. The third baby rifled right out because the path was clear. All 3 of them are girls and they are mostly black and white with brown on their legs and long black ears.
Mama was a little timid at first with them but now she is talking to them.. ate and drank well. I gave her a shot of penicilin and Banamine for pain. They already nursed her out. So I am thawing a jug of frozen goat milk so I can start supplementing them twice a day. So kidding has begun and I am worn out. My hand hurts from the surgery and my brace got all icky so I washed it and dried it and its good to go and back on my hand. Well I am off to the barn to see if she has finished cleaning and then to wash birthing towels.
Well try to get pictures later. Take care.
Linda
Raspberry Run Farm
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windypines
True Blue Farmgirl
4263 Posts
Michele
Bruce
Wisconsin
USA
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Posted - Feb 28 2013 : 05:05:47 AM
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Good luck with all the babies, born and the ones coming.
They sound so cute!
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