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Annika
True Blue Farmgirl

5602 Posts

Annika

USA
5602 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  12:43:46 PM  Show Profile
Me too
I'm here for all of you, regardless. If we need to take it off the board, then we do. If it is making the board too upsetting for some then we owe them the right to feel comfortable here too. It's easy, make a blog to deal with harsher issues, not associated with the farmgirl board, but open to those that need to vent, cry and deal with tough issues, make it private.People can ask to come in if they need to. I dunno. Julie deserves to be able to talk this out with farmgirl friends to lend comfort and support without upsetting the spirit of the board.

I'm on pain killers for my teeth and not the brightest lately, but I DO and always WILL want to help. It is a joy to comfort and support others.

Wishing you joy in small things and peace in your heart

Annika

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willowtreecreek
True Blue Farmgirl

4813 Posts

Julie
Russell AR
USA
4813 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  1:15:27 PM  Show Profile
I feel really sad that this post has turned into an argument over what should and should not be posted and has lost the nature of what I originally came here for. I deleated my original comments out of respect for those who felt offended and not out of anger to anyone. I voiced my opinion and I was done. I feel like I have started more by trying to end something. I appreciate those of you who have offered up thoughts and prayers but PLEASE let's just leave it at that. I came here out of need for comfort and not with the intentions of starting an argument.

If you wish to pray for the boy I am greatful as is he, I am sure.

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MaryJane
Queen Bee

16448 Posts

MaryJane
Moscow Idaho
USA
16448 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  1:58:48 PM  Show Profile
I’m not sure how or why this thread has gotten so…um, heightened. Certainly no one here and certainly not Libbie, asked anyone to delete anything or go back to old posts and delete them. Libbie didn’t say anything about nicety standards or censorship. Where these notions come from, I’m not sure. Perhaps it comes from what Patricia mentioned. But if you read Libbie’s posts, you won’t find them there. Julie deleted her own posts, like she said, out of consideration for those who might be offended. Given what her little town is going through right now, it’s understandable to have a strong reaction to just about anything. Libbie’s “innocent enough” post about focusing on the good in the world [and avoiding too much emphasis on the gory details of rapists and murderers] was more of a reaction to Brenda’s post I think because we really DON'T want to, no we WON'T be, a version of TV’s Nancy Grace or MOST newspapers for that matter. (And if you know Brenda, she’s an angel on earth--I had lunch with her last Sunday.) But re-read the list of topics we created when we launched this forum and then consider this: every now and then, someone tries to launch a GOOD NEWS only newspaper and it fails, not for lack of content, but for lack of readership and revenue. Why? Perspective is everything. Things like WAR and violence are talked about daily and people in the “bad news” business scramble to best each other and we get sucked into that. But there’s another way to look at human beings. For example, at any given moment in time there’s an OUTBREAK OF PEACE if you stop to think about it--if you buy into another perspective that is. Peace fluctuates, but anywhere from 85-95% of the world’s human beings are figuring out how to live in peace WITHOUT WAR for extended periods of time, even though conflicts arise. Some nations have never gone to war. Accolades!!!! Only a small percentage of people then really fight and kill. But when we allow it to be so over emphasized, violence begets violence--a strong and valid argument against violent TV, movies, child porn, etc. (It also wrecks havoc on our innocence and makes it hard to ACT and talk hopeful.) We are what we eat and we are what we think and we are what we talk about. Let’s all take Kay’s advice and drop our “defense” tools. Better yet, avoid picking them up next time! We’re closer to like-minded than we’re “led” to believe.
In positivity and light,
MaryJane
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Marybeth
True Blue Farmgirl

6418 Posts

Mary Beth
Stanwood Wa 98292
USA
6418 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  2:31:15 PM  Show Profile
Thank you MaryJane. You are a calming voice. MB

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"Life may not be the party we hoped for...but while we are here we might as well dance!"
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Amie C.
True Blue Farmgirl

2099 Posts


Finger Lakes Region NY
2099 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  7:45:38 PM  Show Profile
Sorry, Maryjane and Libbie, if I misunderstood what you were saying. I did not check the message board over the weekend, and when I looked at the thread on Monday it looked as though Libbie had asked that the posts be removed and the topic closed. I was suprised because there has been plenty of discussion of other difficult topics here and the dismissal of this one so summarily seemed out of character. No offense, Libbie, but it really did sound to me as though you were saying "Yes, that's a terrible thing that happened but we don't want any ugly things to intrude here so please don't talk about it." I guess this is a case of not being able to read the tone and intention behind someone's written post.

I've noticed in the past year that a lot of people have been going through some difficult things...or maybe people are feeling more comfortable turning to their friends here for support than they did in the first year that I was reading and posting. Is that taking this message board in a direction you don't want it to go? It seems to me as though people who post about such things get a lot of support and appreciate it. But I can understand that you might want the online chat to focus on more practical, how-to stuff. After all, you are the hostesses, so to speak... Could you please just clarify: would you prefer that we not post here about death in the family, illness, family stress, child abuse, etc?
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MaryJane
Queen Bee

16448 Posts

MaryJane
Moscow Idaho
USA
16448 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2007 :  10:54:09 AM  Show Profile
Hi Amie,

Since farmgirl support has become such an important part of this forum, it'll now have its own home.


Hogs & Quiches Round-up
Farmgirl hugs and kisses, prayers, and support. Give ‘em and get ‘em here!
http://www.maryjanesfarm.org/snitz/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=35

Hope to see you there!
MaryJane
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katmom
True Blue Farmgirl

17161 Posts

Grace
WACAL Gal WashCalif.
USA
17161 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2007 :  10:18:10 PM  Show Profile
Dear MJ & Brenda,
I love "Hogs & Quiches" for a place to go for farmgirl support. To share our "moments" of pain or discouragement, but also to us to share our triumphs & joys.
Mj, You are so very right, in your comment above...our world is not all that horrible, but thanx to the news media, and it strives on sensationalism, it resorts to attention grabbing topics, after all, news sells!
I can truly say, for me, I detest Nancy Grace, she is self serving and has no genuine compassion as far as I am concerned.
I for one would love to see more positive news reporting, but am realistic enough to know that some very dark things do go on in our communities. But that is what gives us the opportunity to rally around each other in support & love.
I think we are blessed to live in one of the most wonderful countries, with rights that others can only dream of.
Oh my goodness, I had better get down off my soap box.
MJ, thank you for this wonderful forum.
Farm sisters thank you for your friendship & for allowing me to share my thoughts just as I respect you for your thoughts..
Blessings to you all.


>^..^< Happiness is being a katmom.
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CountryBorn
True Blue Farmgirl

1545 Posts

Mary Jane
New York
USA
1545 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2007 :  07:41:05 AM  Show Profile
I can just tell I am probably the only one who doesn't know this....... But who is Nancy Grace?

MJ

There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do. Freya Stark
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willowtreecreek
True Blue Farmgirl

4813 Posts

Julie
Russell AR
USA
4813 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2007 :  08:10:57 AM  Show Profile
She is a CNN journalist that has been involved in some pretty contrversial cases and interviews.

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Phils Ann
True Blue Farmgirl

1095 Posts

Ann
Parsonsburg Maryland
USA
1095 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2007 :  09:10:05 AM  Show Profile
I didn't know, either, MJ :-) but I don't think I want to "meet" her.

Ann
Sairy Hill Thicket
There is a Redeemer.
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KYgurlsrbest
True Blue Farmgirl

4853 Posts

Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
4853 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2007 :  09:14:28 AM  Show Profile
Actually, I've both watched her (in restaurants where they have the tv blaring) and seen her parodied on Saturday Night Live. I don't have anything nice to say, so I won't --well about the real gal--the Saturday Night live is skit is OH so worth it!

"She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
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CountryBorn
True Blue Farmgirl

1545 Posts

Mary Jane
New York
USA
1545 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2007 :  3:13:56 PM  Show Profile
Ann I agree with you, I don't think I want to meet her either!!
At least I wasn't the only one who didn't know her! I don't have cable,maybe that could be the reason!

MJ

There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do. Freya Stark
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Carol Sue
True Blue Farmgirl

4033 Posts

Carol Sue
Washingtonian
USA
4033 Posts

Posted - Oct 25 2007 :  7:08:00 PM  Show Profile
LOL
I had no idea who she was or is either....

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