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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

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Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  06:50:03 AM  Show Profile
Well, after reading and mulling over everything, I decided to "farmgirl up." I laid down the law.

1. I DO NOT get involved in his fights with his mom. Ever. Something I realized after reading everything is that she is a narcissist just like my own mother. Knowing that, I know not to engage her.

2. He has until our anniversary (January 16th) to shape up, or I am leaving.

I did not raise my voice or make a scene. I spoke my peace in a calm, even voice and walked away.

The next day he said, "You're serious, aren't you?" I looked him in the eye and said, "Absolutely."

So...

...

...

He starts therapy in January. He wanted to get in earlier, but they were booked through the holidays. He has also been put on a low-dose, as-needed tranquilizer in addition to his Paxil so that he can get his symptoms under control in an emergency. (His doctor believes that Ric's symptoms have worsened lately because he was ready to change and heal, but didn't know how.)

For now, I am disengaging and taking a wait-and-see approach. I have made arrangements to move in with a cousin if, ultimately, I decide things with Ric simply won't work. I can't predict either way at this point.

Thanks, farmgirls, for helping me up off my knees. *hugs everyone*



A hook, a book, and a good cup of coffee....

delicia
True Blue Farmgirl

917 Posts

delicia
cincinnati ohio
USA
917 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  07:54:53 AM  Show Profile
Good luck, Hope it works out for you and Ric. Just want to ask, Did you post about you and Ric having problems when he went out boating with a different girl? Did you also post that you had a very bad relationship with your Mom? I would think that it might be a good idea for you to seek some counseling also. It is hard looking at your own issues and maybe some of them play into the relationship that you have with Ric.
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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  08:02:46 AM  Show Profile
Oh, I am. I know I have some codependency issues and a problem with never feeling good enough; I also think I subconsciously like drama. Being an adult with Asperger's probably isn't helping since it can mess with my ability to communicate. Funny, I have never actually thought my Aspie-ness might be a problem before.

I am hoping to find a therapist I really click with so that I can stick to drama starring Nicolas Cage.



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delicia
True Blue Farmgirl

917 Posts

delicia
cincinnati ohio
USA
917 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  08:08:18 AM  Show Profile
Anytime you can get help with your relationships I think it is a great thing. I really hope that you and Ric can work together to make your marriage a strong partnership. I also hope that you can mend and work on your relationship with your mil. It is good to take the high road and try and repair each relationship that you have. That being said you do not have to be a door mat to strengthen relationships. I am going to pray for each of you and really hope that God strengthens you all.
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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  08:39:09 AM  Show Profile
Thank you. Much appreciated!



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Bear5
True Blue Farmgirl

13055 Posts


Louisiana/Texas
USA
13055 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  11:16:10 AM  Show Profile
Good luck Alyce.
Marly

"It's only when we truly know and understand that we have a limited time on earth- and that we have no way of knowing when our time is up- that we will begin to live each day to the fullest, as if it was the only one we had." Elisabeth Kurler-Ross
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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  12:31:16 PM  Show Profile
Thanks Marly.



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kysheeplady
True Blue Farmgirl

1291 Posts

Teri
KY
USA
1291 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  2:17:47 PM  Show Profile
good luck, hope everything works out for you both.

Teri

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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  2:56:36 PM  Show Profile
Thanks Teri. Honestly, at this point I know that I will be fine either way.



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Fiddlehead Farm
True Blue Farmgirl

4562 Posts

Diane
Waupaca WI
USA
4562 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  4:47:28 PM  Show Profile
Congratulations on taking the first steps! Hope no matter what it will work out for you. Merry Christmas!

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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  5:11:31 PM  Show Profile
Thanks, and likewise!



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ceejay48
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CeeJay (CJ)
Dolores Colorado
USA
13776 Posts

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  6:01:23 PM  Show Profile  Send ceejay48 a Yahoo! Message
Alyce,
Congratulations on your plan of action. Things don't change if we don't make the effort!
I'll be praying!
CJ

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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 14 2012 :  06:41:51 AM  Show Profile
My thoughts exactly CJ. Wasn't it Einstein who defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"?



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Joey
True Blue Farmgirl

1868 Posts

Joey
Gulf Coast FL
USA
1868 Posts

Posted - Dec 15 2012 :  10:31:05 AM  Show Profile
My favorite definition of insanity. Alyce, I am so glad that you and Ric are going to get some help. This has been going on for a long time. It is so hard to change old habits and ways of relating. You may be able to get some help with co-dependency from Alanon or a PTSD group. I used to provide counselling to family of people with PTSD. Also, have you read the book "Co-Dependent No More"? It's an old book but your library should have it. It's one I suggest. Please do not stop going to therapy when things seem better. It happens so often-the crisis is past and things are better for awhile and they stop therapy-but it really hasn't resolved the issue-it's just that the crisis is over. Ric should have the ability to make a different decision about his money now. He should be able to change that from his mother to you. You may need to talk with an attorney if he made the decision legally before. If I can help please e-mail me. Know that I send hope and peace, prayers and hugs to you both. Joey

Well behaved women rarely make history.
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GirlwithHook
True Blue Farmgirl

922 Posts

Alyce
Madison WI
USA
922 Posts

Posted - Dec 15 2012 :  1:56:44 PM  Show Profile
I will look for that book, thanks!

I am willing to go for as long as needed--whether it's to help me or help both of us.

Right now I am refusing to engage; his mother has been baiting him again, and I am steering clear of the whole mess. Time to protect my own sanity.



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Rosemary
True Blue Farmgirl

1825 Posts


Virginia
USA
1825 Posts

Posted - Dec 15 2012 :  2:28:38 PM  Show Profile
Alyce, I'm thrilled that the message is getting through -- to both you and Ric. It's revealing that your mother was similar in some ways to your MIL. That reminds me of abused women who put up with the abuse because it's what they saw their own mothers going through and think it's normal, like the "for worse" part of "for better or for worse." This one bit of self-awareness is a big deal. Some people never see it, so you'll be off to a good start in counseling.

Even if things magically get all better in a month, I still think it's a good idea for you (not you and Ric, just you) to establish a checking account and post office box in your own name. This will help you assert your self-worth and independence if things turn out great, and will also, of course, make things easier if you ultimately decide to make a break. Every woman should have her own resources.

You're in my thoughts. Best of everything. Keep us posted!
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marlee
True Blue Farmgirl

1650 Posts

Marlene
DeRidder Louisiana
1650 Posts

Posted - Dec 15 2012 :  3:14:20 PM  Show Profile
Alyce, you are in my thoughts and prayers.



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Joey
True Blue Farmgirl

1868 Posts

Joey
Gulf Coast FL
USA
1868 Posts

Posted - Dec 15 2012 :  3:43:32 PM  Show Profile
Alyce, SO glad you are moving ahead. We are all here for you. Amazon should have that book really cheap. Maybe check it out. Hugs, Joey

Well behaved women rarely make history.
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