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farmmilkmama
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Amy
Central MN
USA
2027 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2012 :  4:58:46 PM  Show Profile
My aunt (who I have mentioned in another thread) passed away last weekend. She was diagnosed with cancer two months ago, wanted no treatment, and didn't want anyone except her close family to know she was ill. (Kids, grandkids, brothers/sisters, nieces and nephews). Her theory was that if people (other family not mentioned above) didn't like her enough to visit her while she was alive, they didn't need to know she was dying.

So the family was sworn to secrecy. We couldn't change her mind to tell other cousins or family friends, she was adamant about not letting people know. We respected her wishes. However, now she's passed on and we have the job of running into people who ask about her and we have to say "Oh, um...she died." or people who read her obituary in the paper and want to know why they weren't called for the (at home) service. We just say "Those were her wishes and we wanted to respect them." We've been put in a REALLY weird place doing this. Some people are really offended by it, but some people understand that we were honoring her wishes. Any thoughts or advice?

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MrsRooster
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Amy
Seabrook TX
USA
1168 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2012 :  5:39:18 PM  Show Profile  Send MrsRooster a Yahoo! Message
I don't really have advise for you. Just a farmgirl hug!!!

I would just tell them that you were following her wishes. If they are offended, that is their problem. You did what she wanted you to do. You honored her.

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nubidane
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Lisa
Georgetown OH
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Posted - Jan 26 2012 :  6:16:44 PM  Show Profile
Those were her wishes.
Pure & simple
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rksmith
True Blue Farmgirl

858 Posts

Rachel
Clayton GA
USA
858 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2012 :  6:25:34 PM  Show Profile
Honestly I wouldn't worry over it. I'd tell them I was honoring her wishes and if they didn't like it they could ********.

Rachel
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Emily Anna
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Emily
Fort Atkinson WI
USA
863 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2012 :  7:34:46 PM  Show Profile
That is an awkward position to be in. I'm sure people are just upset because they didn't get to say goodbye to her. The only thing you can do is tell them you were honoring her wishes. Hopefully they understand, but if not don't beat yourself up over it. You were put in a tough situation and you did what you had to respect her wishes.

Emily
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FarmDream
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Julie
TX
USA
1085 Posts

Posted - Jan 26 2012 :  9:20:10 PM  Show Profile
Just pretend or really start crying after you say you were following her wishes. They'll be quiet then.

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Alee
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Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  05:24:47 AM  Show Profile
It sounds like you are doing a great job. I am so sorry it hurts some people's feelings and makes it awkward for you. That is hard but I am so impressed that you have done such a good job in honoring our Aunt's wishes. That shows such a great family strength and bond. Hopefully these others are just reacting more out of surprise than true anger. *hugs*

Alee
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Simply Satisfied
True Blue Farmgirl

427 Posts

Emily
Montana
USA
427 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  05:26:37 AM  Show Profile
I love the crying afterward I bet that reallly works. I am sorry for your loss and your position but I understand hers too and if you tell everyone that is all you talk about anyway which must get to be really old. Dying of anything really you are dwelling on it enough why would you want everyone else to. It was her choice and I am proud of your whole in the know family for not having it slip out. You did a good thing honoring her.

Emily
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laurentany
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Laurie
Patchogue NY
USA
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Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  05:44:12 AM  Show Profile
I agree with what everyone else is saying. The bottom line is you HONORED HER WISHES! That is what is important here. Not that other people are upset. I understand it does put you in an odd spot at the moment, but dont feel the need to say anything mor than "those were her wishes" to those that you run into or those that ask. You did nothing wrong at all!
Hugs,


~Laurie
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farmmilkmama
True Blue Farmgirl

2027 Posts

Amy
Central MN
USA
2027 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  05:48:36 AM  Show Profile
Thanks everyone for your kind words and ideas. I'm sure my aunt is giggling right now at all of this, or saying "See, I told you..." because her whole thing was that these people never EVER visited her while she was alive (which is the truth) and now suddenly they care that she's gone because they read it in the paper or something. So I guess she proved her point. And I bet she's smiling a big ol' smile right now. Point? Don't wait until it's too late to visit or be family. She's been inviting these (other) people over for years - some of them didn't even come see her new house that she moved too 8-10 years ago!! Too busy...don't care, too busy, oh sorry...we will do it some other time...sorry didn't return your call, busy with stuff....I guess she just got tired of it. Didn't want people suddenly caring simply because she was sick. You know? :)

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crafter
True Blue Farmgirl

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lori
Fort Atkinson Wisconsin
USA
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Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  06:31:02 AM  Show Profile
I'm sorry for your loss and for people that seem to be a little selfish. I feel if those were her wishes and you honored her with them- that is what matters most. You should feel very good and proud that you honored her that way she wanted.

Lori
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Wildcrafter
True Blue Farmgirl

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Suzanne
Seattle WA
USA
340 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  06:48:48 AM  Show Profile
A local boy here passed away this month tragically in an accident. We are a smallish community and there has been a ton of outpouring for the family. There are some who post on some facebook sites (and on mine as well) asking how he died. My question is, "Why do you want to know?" It seems gruesome and tasteless to ask that question and it's really none of anyone's business. Those people get ignored.
Personally, I wouldn't do the pretend crying thing. That's weak and manipulative. in my opinion. We can pull up our big girl pants and practice good boundaries. I would simply state what her wishes were and if they persist, a cold hard stare would suffice.

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Bear5
True Blue Farmgirl

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Louisiana/Texas
USA
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Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  08:46:25 AM  Show Profile
You've done what your Aunt wished. Good for you.
Sorry for your loss.
Marly

"It's only when we truly know and understand that we have a limited time on earth- and that we have no way of knowing when our time is up- that we will begin to live each day to the fullest, as if it was the only one we had." Elisabeth Kurler-Ross
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
4810 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  09:03:38 AM  Show Profile
I was there with my Great Aunt--she didn't want a service whatsoever. And, with the way she so rapidly decline from the time of her diagnosis, she didn't even look like the same person. I did what she asked, though I "did" go against her wishes and put an obituary in the paper. I was hounded consistently for a week about "no service" and then, from the well-meaning ladies from her church, as to "when" they could hold a memorial service for her. After so many long distance phone calls, I simply said, "she didn't want any service. I am respecting her wishes, so I won't be involved, however, should you feel the need to remember her with your own service, please do so." and that was that.

I felt weird, and I know you do, too, but this is what she wanted. The only people that will be offended, largely, are the ones who didn't come to see her...

"Hey, I've got nothing to do today but smile..."
The Only Living Boy in New York, Paul Simon
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FarmDream
True Blue Farmgirl

1085 Posts

Julie
TX
USA
1085 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  12:20:40 PM  Show Profile
The pretend crying was a suggestion to be taken lightly...as in a joke. Not weak or manipulative.

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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl

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Margo
Elyria OH
USA
1903 Posts

Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  12:40:42 PM  Show Profile
i have to give you credit for honoring her!
my sweetie man (to whom i was married 8+ years and now live with) felt the same- he wanted no service, nothing. his family is big on the wake etc- so i convinced him to do a memorial after the fact-he wants to be cremated and ashes spread in a certain place and i will honor that. i will plan his memorial service by his wishes at a later time.

as for myself, i have planned my own end of life - a memorial after the fact of cremation as well, right down to music to be played. in a situation where ppl DO care enough to visit , etc., it can be very cathartic for them to mourn and say goodbye. in your aunt's situation, it is understandable that she did not wish to inform these ppl...i don't blame her!!!!!
again - i give you credit for what you are doing. it IS a hard spot, but you know in your heart you are honoring her !!!! here's an atta girl cuz i sense that you need it!!!!!and a hug!

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SusanScarlet
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Posted - Jan 27 2012 :  1:25:50 PM  Show Profile
I attended a graveside service once in which the presiding minister said something like: "If you disagree with the type of service that is being held today, please know that it was "deceased" wish that her funeral be handled in this way and if you want to complain to someone, please discuss it with her when you get to heaven." LOL
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queenmushroom
True Blue Farmgirl

985 Posts

Lorena
Centerville Me
USA
985 Posts

Posted - Jan 28 2012 :  08:24:11 AM  Show Profile
I would gently explain that she wanted things kept private and that it is your duty to respect her wishes. If they get huffy about it, then say, if she wanted you to know, she would have told you. nuff said.

Patience is worth a bushel of brains...from a chinese fortune cookie
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sjmjgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

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Stephanie
Mt. Vernon Iowa
USA
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Posted - Jan 28 2012 :  08:51:43 AM  Show Profile
Like everyone else said, just a short and simple answer will do. You understand where they are coming from, but that was her wish. The end.

Farmgirl Sister # 3810

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buggysmum
True Blue Farmgirl

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Shelly

110 Posts

Posted - Jan 28 2012 :  09:44:37 AM  Show Profile
You can calmly explain, looking them right in the eye (if you can), that HONORING your AUNT'S wishes was the most important thing you could do for her as she was dying. Going against her wishes would have caused her great discomfort and disappointment in her family for dishonoring her wishes.

(These people are just feeling slighted that they were not one of the "special ones" to know, and are projecting that onto you, trying to make you somehow feel bad that you WERE one of the special ones --- and because they feel guilty that they did not do more for her in her living days to fall into the "special" category). Some people don't know what they have until it is gone..or WHO, in this case, and that is just too bad for them that they didn't recognize it sooner.

Hugs to you,
Shelly
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prayin granny
True Blue Farmgirl

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Linda
Kansas
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Posted - Feb 09 2012 :  01:09:02 AM  Show Profile
So sorry for your loss. Main thing is that you honored her wishes and in doing that you have honored her and her life.
As others have said? Those now offended, it is for them to work out. No doubt they feel guilty and they will have to work thru that.

I admire what you and your family are doing!

Blessings,
Linda
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hoosiercountry
True Blue Farmgirl

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karla
north port fl
USA
572 Posts

Posted - Feb 12 2012 :  3:41:04 PM  Show Profile
I am very sorry for the loss of your Aunt. You were so right in honoring her wishes. You may never know the hurt she felt over the years from those she would like to have visited with but they were too busy or did not care enough to make alittle time to visit with her. You gave her so much in respecting her wishes. Big Hugs to you and your family.
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