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katiedid
True Blue Farmgirl

601 Posts

Kate
West Jordan Utah
USA
601 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  7:26:17 PM  Show Profile
Ok, farmgals, since alot of us have weighed in on the bra issue, I wondered what kinds of conversations we can have about shaving....
How do you feel about women shaving or not shaving at all?

For a long long time I didn't shave at all.
Now I shave under my arms, a couple times a week.
Sometimes I shave my legs.

I guess with younger people these days, some shave everywhere...I mean everywhere.
How do you feel about that?

It really bothers my mother when I don't shave...she worries that it is unsantitary??What??
I said I don't shave, not that I don't shower!

Let's get a good conversation going.....
Why do you shave?
Why don't you shave?

Love and light to you all
Kate

cmandle
True Blue Farmgirl

846 Posts

Catherine
Minneapolis MN
846 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  7:43:21 PM  Show Profile
Kate with a K-

We're on a roll with the good topics tonight!

Back in my "hippie" days in Northern California, I did not shave. Long hair on my head and natural hair everywhere else! I promptly cut off all of my long hair when I returned to Minnesota and experienced one of our disgustingly high humidity days and for some reason felt that that meant that I needed to start shaving my legs and underarms again too. I guess I felt that it didn't "go" together. ?!

But since then, I've been a shaver again. Now, the hair on my head is thick and black so you can imagine what it's like everywhere else. If I had lighter coloring, I'd forego the razor in a second! Still, with a child, my frequency has changed. Some days I do, some days I'm so quick in the shower that I wonder if I even soaped up because I'm not sure when he'll wake up! I just worry about it more if I'm going to a nice summer wedding or will be with people who will "care"...isn't that silly?

I should stop. We DID just put away the TV tonight just after I posted that other one (!), so maybe I'm on a roll of omitting the silly things from my life. We'll see what tomorrow's shower brings!

Catherine with a C

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Edited by - cmandle on Jul 23 2006 8:17:52 PM
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Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  7:48:58 PM  Show Profile
I do shave my armpits..only shave my legs when I absolutly have to. I just hate it. I noticed that the older I get the thinner the hair on my legs comes in..which is nice. All those years of jeans I guess.
I do shave my legs if I am going swimming where ANYONE will see my legs..but then..heck, that isn't very often at all!! I never wear shorts and like my skirts long and comfortable so you can guess how long it has been..haha But I can't get past the armpit thing..so I do that. Besides..that is alot quicker.


Jenny in Utah
Inside me there is a skinny woman crying to get out...but I can usually shut her up with cookies
http://www.auntjennysworld.blogspot.com/ visit my little online shop at www.auntjenny.etsy.com
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katiedid
True Blue Farmgirl

601 Posts

Kate
West Jordan Utah
USA
601 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  8:29:20 PM  Show Profile
I have been thinking today about body image, and then I took my girls for a drive (ac in the van works really well) We passed a city bus and on the side of it was a HUGE advertisement for plastic surgery.

I just wonder....why do we women feel like we have to change our bodies? Why is "perfect" beautiful?
Food for thought.
Give me some feedback.
Love.
K
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JudyBlueEyes
True Blue Farmgirl

657 Posts

Judith
Spokane Washington
USA
657 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  8:53:27 PM  Show Profile
I will weigh in here. For years, I thought plastic surgery was nuts. I felt that as my hair started "fading" (read: greying) and my face started aging (wrinkling) that the fading matched the aging, and complimented each other. I mean, sometimes you see someone who has had a facelift with a really bright hair color (usually blond) and it just doesn't look right. I have never colored my grey. I still have enough blond that I figure I'll be okay into my sixties and then it will be perfectly fine to be all grey, if I go that way.
However. I have re-thought the plastic surgery. And specifically the eyes. I have never had "wide-open big" eyes - and as I have aged, the eyes are getting more and more "hooded" and closed - to where I think I look unhappy a lot of the time. I met a woman a few years ago who said it this way...if I have done a lot of work on my (inner) self to be happy, but my outer self looks unhappy, then that is a disconnect, and if I can look happy with a little surgery, then so be it! She doesn't want to present an unhappy face to the world. So I am definitely considering blepheroplasty (an eyelid lift, so to speak) so that my eyes don't get to the point where they are practically closed all the time. So while I don't advocate plastic surgery to look younger, I am all for the idea of trying to make my outside visage look like my inner self...
I know that if I tried to work up serious SMILE lines, that this might not be necessary, but I also look at pics of my mother who had the same issue, and I'd really like to see more of my EYE than my eyelid and I think I would see better also...
Anyhow, that's my two cents, and I would me more than happy to hear anyone's thoughts on the matter, as well as personal experience or that of someone you know....Thanks! Judy

The Rooster crows, but the Hen lays the egg. ~ Texas Proverb
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happymama58
True Blue Farmgirl

1210 Posts

Patti
Missouri
USA
1210 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  9:01:30 PM  Show Profile
I shave both my legs & underarms -- always have and plan to until I can't or don't need to. I feel better, more feminine (smooth, silky), etc.

As for cosmetic surgery. Hmmmm . . . I would IF I had way more $$ than I need, wasn't the type to avoid needles/doctors/hospitals/clinics/procedures unless absolutely necessary, and if the recovery was either painless or controllable without being all drugged-out. Looks like that won't ever be happening! If I did, though, I'd have the bags under my eyes removed -- I've had them all my life and detest them.

Some people search for happiness; others create it.

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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Jul 23 2006 :  10:02:03 PM  Show Profile
I have shaved since I was in 6th grade -- both pits and legs. I will continue to shave until I can't do it anymore. I also notice that my leg hair doesn't grow as much as it used to. I can get away with about once a week there.

As far as plastic surgery goes -- the eye lift is something that insurance will pay for if it is interferring with your vision. I have a friend who works for a plastic surgeon. If I had the bucks I would have my eyes done and my "jowls" done. I'd also have my boobs reduced and a tummy tuck. But not because I want a perfect body. I'd just like the things that are going south to go north again! But since I don't have that much money I'll just have to remain a "southern" girl!

There is so much pressure on young girls (and anyone) to be perfect. They see people like Paris Hilton or other movie stars and want to be like that. Our society pushes perfect down their throats -- you'll be cool if you're perfect -- NOT. I do everything I can to keep my 12 year old away from the magazines and TV shows. And we talk a lot about self image. But it still filters in.


I choose faith not fear.

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Nancy Gartenman
True Blue Farmgirl

9093 Posts

Nancy
West Seneca New York
USA
9093 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  06:12:59 AM  Show Profile
lets see, I shave everything, EXCEPT--- and I don't plan to.
NANCY JO
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Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  09:17:55 AM  Show Profile
plastic surgery..nope..not for me. Havn't colored my hair except for a couple times the rinse out kind just to try it..just wasn't for me. I am lucky enough to have mostly dark brown hair still at 47 so I figure I am fine with slowly greying. My eyes are not as pretty as they used to be and I have smile lines like crazy but I am okay with it. Now a boob reduction..if I could afford it THAT would be tempting..but no. I wouldn't. Too chicken I suppose. I am fine with my aging I guess. Good question to ponder. I know some people who would jump at the chance for trying to look younger.

Jenny in Utah
Inside me there is a skinny woman crying to get out...but I can usually shut her up with cookies
http://www.auntjennysworld.blogspot.com/ visit my little online shop at www.auntjenny.etsy.com
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katiedid
True Blue Farmgirl

601 Posts

Kate
West Jordan Utah
USA
601 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  09:30:49 AM  Show Profile
Farmgirls~
I am thinking on all of this, I wonder what it is about our society that makes us feel there is something wrong with ageing?
In other cultures, as people age they are beheld has the matriarch of the family....
We just want to be/look young again.
What is so bad about grey hair? Or wrinkles? Or drooping boobs? (my least favorite physical trait) But when I look outside the box, my body has brought forth life, and I have nourished four children..that's why my breasts droop. It is a God-given gift to beget life...why do I hate what it did to my body????Hmmmm...I have some soul searching to do on this one.

Let's have some mind fodder...
Love and light to all
Kate
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GaiasRose
True Blue Farmgirl

2552 Posts

Tasha-Rose
St. Paul Minnesota
2552 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  1:20:57 PM  Show Profile
I personally like how it feels to be shaved. I love the silkiness. I feel prickly when I don't shave under my arms and I really think it hurts to not shave my legs. I love the softness, Rob does too.

I wish I could not shave, it just takes too long, but I love how it feels.

"I would not interfere with any creed of yours or want to appear that I have all the cures. There is so much to know...so many things are true. The way my feet must go may not be best for you. And so I give this spark of what is light to me, to guide you through the dark, but not tell you
what you must see."
-Author Unknown

"Contradiction is not a sign of falsity, nor the lack of contradiction a sign of truth."
— Blaise Pascal

~*~Brightest Blessings~*~
Tasha-Rose
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Carolinagirl
True Blue Farmgirl

486 Posts

Kim
Rutherfordton NC
USA
486 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  2:15:55 PM  Show Profile
I have to shave every day. Legs and armpits. I probably would leave my armpits without shaving but not my legs. I always thought there was something wrong with me because I have stubble by the next morning after shaving, but about five years ago I found out I have PCOS, which increases male hormones and therefore more hair (yippeee). It usually hurts to shave the hair on my thighs because it is so coarse, but there's not a lot I could do without looking like Husband Dear! :) I can't use Nair- doesn't do a dang thing!

He told me several years ago that I've always had hair, and it doesn't bother him, which is some small comfort, but I still hate to have so much of it!
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Mumof3
True Blue Farmgirl

3890 Posts

Karin
Ellenwood GA
USA
3890 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  3:46:00 PM  Show Profile
I always shave my legs but...A few years ago my friend started a laser hair removel business and needed victims to practice on. So, my daughter and I now no longer have hair on our upper lips or under our arms. Was it worth it? Well, now that time has passed, yes. But the pain was awful!! Zap, pain, zap, pain!! Yikes it was like being tortured with a million bees!!

Karin
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Phils Ann
True Blue Farmgirl

1095 Posts

Ann
Parsonsburg Maryland
USA
1095 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  4:38:57 PM  Show Profile
I shave pits and legs... After switching to an aluminum free deodorant; Tom's of Maine, I have to work hard at not stinking. Less hair just is easier. The legs are simply for my DH, as like Aunt Jenny, I don't wear shorts or go swimming, and my skirts are ankle length.

A friend whose eyes are really deepset was struggling with her vision, finally had the lift done, and could see again, which makes a lot of sense to me. As for my own face-lift thoughts, I look at picts of my grandmother at my wedding with pursed lips... and doggone if I'm not getting them, too! I absolutely hate it, but it does make me wonder what kind of expression I wear on my face. Give me laugh lines any day! I have no plans to get them "fixed", however. I do plan to smile more.

Ann

There is a Redeemer.
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Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  5:16:25 PM  Show Profile
I have a family history of jowls. hooray. I guess I can hope to take after dad's side of the family..but it is already starting!

Jenny in Utah
Inside me there is a skinny woman crying to get out...but I can usually shut her up with cookies
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lawsec03
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Melissa
Richmond KY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  10:04:00 PM  Show Profile
My pits, I shave regular. Can't stand no to. My legs ar lucky of they get it once a week or week and a half

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abbasgurl
True Blue Farmgirl

1262 Posts

Rhonda

USA
1262 Posts

Posted - Jul 24 2006 :  11:32:00 PM  Show Profile
Again, during the "back to the land phase" I went natural in the body hair department too. Stopped shaving altogether. I'm not a very furry person so it wasn't a huge deal. I did notice that after the initial stubble grows out, the hair is very soft & silky. Not a bad thing really. I went back to shaving because it it very socially unacceptable not to shave if you are a woman in this country. Hairy legs & HEAVEN FORBID armpits, will sure get you some strange looks! (Didn't we just have this conversation in the breastfeeding topic?) Women who don't shave are typically thought of as organic gardening hippies or Tie Dye wearing Grateful Dead fans. ;) Again, not a bad thing really.
Rhonda

...and I will sing at the top of my lungs, and I will dance, even if I'm the only one!
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

2900 Posts

Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
2900 Posts

Posted - Jul 25 2006 :  08:43:58 AM  Show Profile
For me it's weather or not I just want to fool w/ it. A lot of times in the winter I'll let myself go. But I'm a swimmer/cyclist, so for "aerodynamic reasons" I'll shave. Winter time I'll get more lax.

Funny how our culture makes this such an issue. An X husband made me feel so self conscious and bad when I did let myself go. He made issue of it in public too. I didn't think it was all that bad, but HE was more concerned about himself! Had I been stronger then, it might have gone a different direction.


I have a few friends who go this route and as long as folks shower and maintain good hygene, it shouldn't be a problem.
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bboopster
True Blue Farmgirl

1140 Posts

Betty Jo
West Bend Wisconsin
USA
1140 Posts

Posted - Jul 25 2006 :  09:13:01 AM  Show Profile  Click to see bboopster's MSN Messenger address
I shave my legs and have done the laser thing in the bikini area (not sure way there is no such swim wear in my future) and arm pit area. Laser was great and the pain was there but sure beat waxing and sugaring. I will get a boob reduction (my 50th B-day gift to myself)hopefully my insurance will help pay for it. At 5'3" and 130lbs my 32DDD's are a bit much as no one makes a DDD in 32 so I have to wear 34 or 36DD which are to big around and the underwires reach almost wire to wire. Very uncomfortable and the divid in the shoulders from straps are painful too. I can not imagine what a nice B or even a C would be like. For the comfort of smaller boobs I endure the pain.

Pray for our troops to come home safe and soon.
Enjoying the road to the simple life :>)
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ali2583
True Blue Farmgirl

404 Posts

Alison
Winnipeg Manitoba
Canada
404 Posts

Posted - Jul 25 2006 :  3:12:39 PM  Show Profile
Pits I shave every day, legs when I remember to. Or when I look down at my legs and think "God, are my legs ever hairy"...

"God's gift to you is life. What you choose to do with that life is your gift to God"
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westernhorse51
True Blue Farmgirl

1681 Posts

michele
farmingdale n.j.
USA
1681 Posts

Posted - Jul 26 2006 :  06:06:51 AM  Show Profile
I shave everyday & have been since 6th grade also. Its just part of my shower routine. Plastic surgery is not an option for me. I know people say all time they earned their wrinkles, well I have!!

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CabinCreek-Kentucky
True Blue Farmgirl

8529 Posts

Frannie
Green County Kentucky
USA
8529 Posts

Posted - Jul 26 2006 :  07:19:33 AM  Show Profile
o.k. ... my take on shaving armpits and legs for a woman .. is a FOUR LETTER WORD:

SEXY

i adore the way my shaven body feels all smooth and silky when shave .. not to mention all the other 'senses'!!

which is interesting ... because i LOVE a HAIRY man .. and find that very SEXY!

as to a woman shaving her other body parts .. be they NORTH or SOUTH of the bellybutton .. well .. that is pretty much a 'fad' that comes and goes .. and if a woman wants to experiment .. i say 'go for it' .. just as i do with any other thing that makes us feel 'good'. i don't worry about these little things when it comes to a woman experimenting with "nekked tu-tu's" .. or even their HEAD if they are so inclined!

no more so than i would with them trying different shades of lipstick. we have pretty much all of us tried 'fads' that our own parents found silly or outrageous .. but it most likely didn't make us any less a good person .. and we might have some fun memories of those times (oh yeah!!! the sixties and seventies!!!!) wouldn't trade 'em or my experiences for anything in the world!

oh my .. and i would sure give mother nature a little 'lift' or 'tuck' here and there if i could ... my doc says 'no elective surgery' for me 'cuz of the healing aspect of diabetics ... but if i could .. i sure would! and i don't think it truly has anything to do with what 'society' says .. but more of just looking in the mirror and loving the outside as well as the inside of that woman who is looking back at me. i truly don't believe there is a RIGHT or WRONG of anything a woman wants to do to her body when it comes to enhancing it or tweaking it (as long as it is not HARMFUL to her body!) i have women-friends full of lines and grey hair that i adore and i have women-friends who love PLAYING with beauty products and the look they get with them .. they are ALL equally beautiful in my sight .. and whatever makes them personally happy .. is what is important, i believe.

i have never had any surgery .. i surely do love to play with my hair color .. from black to brown to blonde to red .. to the golds, greens (yes! greens!!), russets, reds, oranges of autumn ... to the red, white and blue (yes! blue!!) of independence day .. it is just FUN!!! .. i ADORE make-up and love my RAZOR and powders and perfumes.

i CAN actually appear before my friends with just a smile on my face with yesterday's mascara rubbed down the side of my cheek .. or with a spanking scrubbed from the shower face ... and be happy too .. but PREFER to girly-girl me up when going out and when gathering.

well gurlfrenz .. that's the 'gospel according to frannie' xoxoxo

True Friends, Frannie

CABIN CREEK FARM
KENTUCKY

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tiffany01
True Blue Farmgirl

134 Posts

Tiffany
Indiana
USA
134 Posts

Posted - Jul 27 2006 :  03:32:19 AM  Show Profile
My mom was in the height of her feminist years when I was an adolescent so the fact that she wasn't shaving made the impression on me that it certainly was "necessary". Of course, eventually I started shaving but could never care enough to keep up with it on a regular basis. I remember being shocked when one of my friends in college said she shaved every day! One year I even made it my New Year's resolution to keep up with it but we all know how successful those New Year's promises can be. So now I get to it when I get to it and thank God everyday that DH isn't too picky!
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santa_gertrudis_gal
True Blue Farmgirl

198 Posts

Kim
Groesbeck Texas
USA
198 Posts

Posted - Jul 27 2006 :  09:23:22 AM  Show Profile  Send santa_gertrudis_gal a Yahoo! Message
Good reading, again!

Shaving: Arm pits and Legs....in US a cultural thing...men like clean. Europe, they don't shave. We had a Austrian exchange student my senior year, she was drop dead gorgeous natural blond, didn't shave. The guys were falling over her. By the second week at school she had been swimming with another student and everyone knew she didn't shave. The guys suddenly stopped fawning over her. I shave arm pits and lower legs. My thighs have always stayed light except a few stray hairs, so they are plucked. If I go swimming in my next door neighbors pool I shave further up.

Plastic Surgery: Not for me....don't like pain. I've had three eye surgeries for my muscles when I was younger. I may need to have plastic surgery as I get older to see. Just have to wait on that verdict. Eye makeup as I've gotten older drives my eyes nuts, so I only where it when I absolutely have too.

Hair color: I like my grey. But...don't you just love that word. I highlight my hair....my DH loves it. It also makes me look younger since I can't wear eye makeup and foundation tears my skin up.

Kim

Heaven is a day at the ranch with my Santa Gertrudis!
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sleepless reader
True Blue Farmgirl

1022 Posts


CA
USA
1022 Posts

Posted - Jul 27 2006 :  12:09:59 PM  Show Profile
I took off shaving for a few years during my "Northern California Influence" time...I spent some time in Santa Cruz and for a So Cal girl I needed the extra hair to keep you warm, even at the beach! I did, oddly enough, bleach the hair on my legs during that time. Now? Well, I do keep the legs and pits pretty clean shaven during the summer. Winter and long pants is another story.
As for hair, mine is quickly going grey. Won't die it. I don't think I'd do any plastic surgery either, unless it was to improve my health.
Sharon

Life is messy. Wear your apron!
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theoanne
True Blue Farmgirl

282 Posts

teddie
CARROLLTON GA
282 Posts

Posted - Aug 12 2006 :  5:24:20 PM  Show Profile
I shave seasonally! That is, In the summer I do the legs and arms if it shows or if it's annoying me with the heat. In the winter it's colder I sweat less and shave less. Usually by spring I need a bushhog for the legs :) As I age and the hormones decrease I see less hair so even in summer I don't have to do it every day.Yea!!
Now on aging. I'm just gonna go with however God deals it out for me. In a way it'll be interesting to see how much I look like which family member. Also I have worked a plastic surgery floor. I know exactly HOW they do the surgeries and how these people look and feel after surgery. I would never chose this voluntarily. Now if there was and injury that needed corrected or it was to be done for health reasons then I'm all for it. That's for myself. Anyone brave enough to chose surgery certainly has my support .

Teddie
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