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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

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Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
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Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  09:36:33 AM  Show Profile
Hi anybody have any advise on what I need to do for a baby goat born monday I just recieved him today,they said he had two feedings of mothers milk by bottle.she dried up then they fed him milk replacer and brought him to me he is urinating and having normal bowel movments but he is swelling in his legs, I called the vet and waiting an answer thought maybe you ladys would have some info?
Penny

Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

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Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  09:44:28 AM  Show Profile
Hi Penny- is he staying warm enough? Goats are very sensitive to temperature when they are little. I would also see if anyone around has some colostrum for him. Only two feedings might not have given him enough antibodies.

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grace gerber
True Blue Farmgirl

2804 Posts

grace
larkspur colorado
USA
2804 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  10:01:18 AM  Show Profile
Mother who dries up that fast might not have had any of the good stuff for the baby and milk replacer will not give the little one the electrolites that is required. I mix always Pedialite with milk replacers - half water/half pedialite. If legs are swelling then you are having circulation issues - might have even gotten a bit frostbitten. I suggest that you use warm oil and message the legs - make sure that the little one is warm and keep it walking - even if you have to hold it and place the weight on those legs. Letting them sit too long with give blood vesels and chance to get damaged. Give small feeding every hour so that body does not get too many dips in temp and activity and that will keep those blood vesels running.

Please keep us up to date if you can - we are here to help and support in what ways we can being long distant. Good luck and I will keep the little one in my prayers.


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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  10:15:54 AM  Show Profile
Not to worry about if he is warm he is nice and cozy in my livingroom,I don't think it is frost bite,the people that had him also had him inside,they said he was a twin and the other was born dead so they brought him inside, from what they said the nanny was dried up on one side and they milked the other side and would get a cup at a time so thats why they started him on milk replacer.the swelling in his legs almost look like hes stocking up, he moves around seems very alert and eats okay.I wish i could find someone milking a goat or someone with colostrum no one around has any.I,m still waiting on the vet to call Thank you for your advise Ladys.
Penny
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl

1311 Posts

Linda
Manchester Ohio
1311 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  10:17:38 AM  Show Profile
Penny- you may be dealing with naval ill which causes swelling in the back legs of newborn kids. The bacteria enters through the naval cord and the back legs start swelling. If they don't get on antibitics pretty fast they don't survive because it goes systemic. Maybe dip his naval in iodine again making sure not to get his little pee pee in it. I would have the vet check him
ASAP for the legs to see if that is what is going on. Also some probiotics in his system would be good also. Just a little dab of Probious. Anyway hope thats not what he has and keep us posted on what the vet has to say. Good luck.

p.s. if you would like to talk on the phone I will call you if you want me to...maybe I can be of more help.

Linda

Raspberry Run Farm
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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  2:33:51 PM  Show Profile
Hi everyone just got back from the vets,it was an infection most likely through the soft tissue in the hooves right after birth from what the vet said since it was all four legs,he is now on banamine and penicillan for three days.i talked the other owners and they never dipped the cord or treated the hooves with iodine.we used to do that at the horse farm I. worked at I was on foal watch about 25 per season we would do that for every foal born until the cord would dry.I called and told them that the next ones born they should do that.
p.s. thank you Linda for you offer.
Penny
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl

1311 Posts

Linda
Manchester Ohio
1311 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  3:04:00 PM  Show Profile
Penny so glad you found out what was wrong.Hopefully with the meds and the good care he is getting from you sounds like he has a fighting chance now. Will pray for a speedy recovery for the little one.

Glad to help anytime.I don't know everything but over the past 19 years have have learned quite a bit. There are lots of ladies in here that have tons of knowledge on goats.They are great at helping.Keep me posted. Take care.

Linda



Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats
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grace gerber
True Blue Farmgirl

2804 Posts

grace
larkspur colorado
USA
2804 Posts

Posted - Feb 02 2011 :  4:54:53 PM  Show Profile
Great to hear that the vet has a plan. Yes, those cords should always be dipped that is a given and the hooves I guess if you have folks coming into the barns and they have animals. I run a closed organic farm so I have not had to worry about their hooves but I did in the past was them everyone's feet when we had visitors.

Linda great advise and wonderful to see you on the thread. When will your kidding season start?? I keep tell my girls to cross those legs until this storm passes...

Hugs and Prayers to that little one

Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio

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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 03 2011 :  06:06:57 AM  Show Profile
Well he made it through the night,he ate three time through the night,the swelling is gone in all but one leg if you did'nt know he had a problem you would'nt notice it.his lungs are good he's loud and clear.My dog squirt just loves him everytime he crys she comes to get me and she licks him from head to toe.we'll keep our fingers crossed and keep hoping for the best.thanks again for everybodys help I'll keep you posted.
Penny
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl

3775 Posts

sherry
bend in the high desert oregon
USA
3775 Posts

Posted - Feb 03 2011 :  06:16:24 AM  Show Profile
goodmorning penny, i am sooooo happy you are both doing good. i sure would love a pic. baby goats are just the cutest. so many babies coming soon to all the farmgirls around. yipee. i did not know about the feet. so should i dip my baby goats hooves also with the iodine. is it diluted to 8 water 1 iodine? i have the strong stuff. i learn new things here often. thanks penny for my something new today. happy days sherrye

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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl

1311 Posts

Linda
Manchester Ohio
1311 Posts

Posted - Feb 03 2011 :  06:30:37 AM  Show Profile
Thanks Grace,
My kidding season starts Feb. 12th of this month. I only have 4 does bred for this year. Wanted to take a break and give some of the girls who had trips last year a break also. I have my heat lamps ready and my kidding kit by the back door with the towels. My baby monitor is turned up louder than usual just in case someone goes early. My first doe to kid this year is a first timer. I always get so nervous with first timers.

Penny so glad the swelling is goiing down. Sounds like you caught this early and the good care he is getting is paying off. Sounds like your dog Squirt is a good mama to him. That is too cute. By the way what kind of a goat is the little buckling?

Take care.
Linda

Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats
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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 03 2011 :  12:39:59 PM  Show Profile
Hi Linda he is a nubian boer cross.I'm still kinda worried about the one leg it still has swelling.we'll see what happens friday if it does'nt look better hes going back to the vets. I'll keep you posted.
Penny
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amomfly
True Blue Farmgirl

658 Posts

Angie
LaGrange IN
USA
658 Posts

Posted - Feb 03 2011 :  2:26:14 PM  Show Profile
I am so glad to hear he is improving!
Waiting on pictures!

God Bless
Angie-amomfly
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl

1311 Posts

Linda
Manchester Ohio
1311 Posts

Posted - Feb 03 2011 :  3:27:23 PM  Show Profile
Penny its only been 24 hours since you started his treatment. He needs time for the meds to kick in really good.
If the penicillin doesn't seem to work see about switching him to Naxell (not sure about the spelling). That stuff is really strong and is good for what he is fighting... thats what saved my friends baby goat.Maybe by tomorrow morning his leg will be better if not ask the vet if he could put him on that.Thanks for the update. Will check back with you tomorrow.

Take care
Linda

Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats
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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  03:09:23 AM  Show Profile
well its friday still swelling in the left hind leg not as bad but we have a 7:15 am appointment at the vets just to make sure because my vet is not in over the weekend and I want to make sure we'll be good, today was suppose to be his last day for his meds. I'll mention the naxell to him. other than the leg he is doing really well.I'll have an update later.
Thannk you
Penny
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl

3775 Posts

sherry
bend in the high desert oregon
USA
3775 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  06:10:12 AM  Show Profile
thanks for the update penny, you are a wonderful goat baby mommy. happy days sherrye

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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl

1903 Posts

Margo
Elyria OH
USA
1903 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  07:10:25 AM  Show Profile
i don't have goats yet but want to thank you all for this post-very informative! i love it!!!

and i'd love to see pics too!!!!

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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  07:44:17 AM  Show Profile
Back from the vets looking good he added on four more days of meds,said looks like we got it intime.He was accually trying to run this morning til he slid on the kitchen floor.I will try to get pictures today so all you ladys can see him hes so adorable did I mention his name is Nelson.
Thanks again everybody for your support.
Penny
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grace gerber
True Blue Farmgirl

2804 Posts

grace
larkspur colorado
USA
2804 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  08:33:05 AM  Show Profile
Great News! I am so happy for you that the little one is improving. Please keep us informed and can not wait for pictures - they are so sweet...

Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio

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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl

1311 Posts

Linda
Manchester Ohio
1311 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  09:31:00 AM  Show Profile
Thats fantastic news Penny. Sounds like Nelson is going to make a full recovery. With the extra few days of meds. he should kick it the rest of the way and be up and running. I bet you are so relieved I know I am....lol. Looking forward to the pics when you have time.

take care
Linda

Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats
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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  2:05:53 PM  Show Profile

Here he is Nelson with his newely adopted mother Squirt,I had a hard time getting pictures he would not hold still.I'll keep posting as he grows.I am soooooooo relieved maybe I can sleep between feedings tonight.
Penny
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

11303 Posts

kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  2:25:03 PM  Show Profile
He is so cute! I would love to find such a handsome buck for my girls. I am so glad he's doing so well now. He should be all better soon. Do you have other goats?

Kris

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Penny Dyke
True Blue Farmgirl

93 Posts

Penny
East Palestine Ohio
USA
93 Posts

Posted - Feb 04 2011 :  3:29:40 PM  Show Profile
Hi Kris
yes I have two pygmys and one mix, all have pretty much came to me in the same way sick or needing bottle fed.sally and Gus are the pygmys 12 yrs and 8 yrs Lilly is 15yrs the mix, I'am a retired vet tech so everybody thinks this is the drop off for sick and unwanted animals just because I worked for one dosent mean I am a Vet ,don't get me wrong I love every one of them I just wish some people would be more responsible for the animals in their care. and thank God my husband is so understanding.I'm so gald I joined the sisterhood this is just what I needed.
Penny
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gypsy goat
True Blue Farmgirl

673 Posts

mary jo
michigan
673 Posts

Posted - Feb 05 2011 :  08:25:55 AM  Show Profile
i looooove nelson he is so cute! i am so glad he was given to the right person to love him and take care of him. hope he keeps growing and getting stronger

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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl

1311 Posts

Linda
Manchester Ohio
1311 Posts

Posted - Feb 05 2011 :  1:52:23 PM  Show Profile
Penny, he is really a good looking buck! He looks really good and Squirt is such a cutie. You have a big heart and I know its hard when other people dump their problems off on you. I get that here all the time. I have 8 rescue cats and one rescue dog, and recently a rooster showed up. My husband has been very understanding too and also good about all the vet bills.

But one thing to remember God knows who is good to animals and who is not. I believe we all will be rewarded one day for our efforts. If nothing else the love the animals give back to you.I know some of the animals that we have rescued over the years have been wonderful. They have since passed on but there always seem to be new ones to take their place. I will probably always be swamped with unwanted cats and dogs and sometimes Roosters.........lol.

Take care and glad you have such a big heart.
Linda

Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats
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RedHoopWoman
True Blue Farmgirl

513 Posts

Kathryn
Yoder Colorado
USA
513 Posts

Posted - Feb 05 2011 :  3:47:03 PM  Show Profile
He is adorable,I'm planning on purchasing a buck kid of my own in April from another Nubian breeder,I would be happy to find one that handsome to breed to my girls.
Unfortunately alot of breeders tend not to fool with the buck kids so don't put alot of effort into caring for them as well as they do does,they see them as more disposable or they don't want to or know how to castrate so they just get rid of them any way they can in any condition,I was given a very nice Alpine buck kid a few years ago just because he got scoury and the lady who bred him didn't want to have to care for him,she said she only put time into her show does and usually drowned the bucks in a bucket of water or took them to the sale barn.
Good for this buck that you put the effort and expense to caring for him!
What are your plans for him,are you going to keep him?

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