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brightmeadow
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Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 6:16:24 PM
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UFO in this case being an unidentified Farm Object?
Can anyone help me identify these weeds? My garden is full of them and I have looked on various weed identification sites and haven't seen a picture yet that matches... Hard to tell what to do to get rid of them (other than hoeing) if I don't know what it is. My first guess was chamomile but it doesn't look like any pictures of chamomile that I've seen.
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LJRphoto
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Laura
Hickory Corners
MI
USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 6:17:55 PM
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I can't see the pictures for some reason.
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brightmeadow
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Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 6:20:43 PM
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I guess I haven't gotten the hang of posting pictures directly on the forum yet, so I just changed it to a link. Hope that works better?
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Laura
Hickory Corners
MI
USA
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brightmeadow
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Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 6:47:50 PM
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OK, maybe I just found it on the University of Virginia web site at http://www.ppws.vt.edu/scott/weed_id/galci.htmI went through the list weed by weed - do you think this could be hairy galinsoga? I did a google image search for that and some other pictures look more like my weed.
Anyone else have a problem with this in their garden? What to do about it? (No Roundup, please...)
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Laura
Hickory Corners
MI
USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 7:13:52 PM
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I think you found it. I didn't think the flowers were part of the plant on yours. I thought it was growing in your strawberries! With a quick search I found out that, if what you have is hairy galinsoga, it's herbicide resistant anyway. I guess I would just keep pulling it and try to keep it from going to seed to hopefully keep from having an even bigger problem next year (it's an annual). Maybe next year you could see if a weed barrier fabric helps.
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Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2006 : 7:58:07 PM
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I found some info on it from Ontario, Canada, and it seems that each plant has up to 7500 seeds - no wonder I have millions of these! I tilled 5 times this spring - and I'm still seeing new plants sprouting. I have weed barrier fabric on a few of my rows but some are just too close together to get the fabric in - I planted wide rows of carrots, beets, spinach, lettuce, etc. and these "shaggy soldiers" get right up under the vegetable plants, I can't till that close, and even hoeing is tricky - I have to get in and hand-pull. The Canadian web http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/hort/news/hortmatt/2004/22hrt04a3.htm site says to plant Sudan grass in the summer as a control to prevent germination of the seeds...I can't bear the thought of eliminating or relocating my garden for a year or two....I am doomed...
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Dar
west
TX
USA
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Posted - Jun 14 2006 : 11:29:41 AM
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I wonder if spraying vinegar on it on a hot day would work? I use that for the weeds in my sidewalk, it was recommended in a book I have. You have to get the 'pickling' vinegar that they sell at the grocery store because it's more acidic. Since you have a weed that's out there (UFO) how about a solution that's out there?![](icons/icon_smile_cool.gif)
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Rhonda
USA
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Posted - Jun 14 2006 : 11:03:42 PM
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This weed sounds like a real stinker! You might try laying pieces of old carpeting or a heavy rug down over the places that are especially bad. Carpet samples work well for this. You do have to leave them down for a few weeks but they typically kill everything growing under them. It doesn't LOOK pretty but if you're desperate...![](icons/icon_smile_blush.gif)
The other trick I have used is to lay thick layers of newspaper down between the rows and add lawn clippings on top of that. You need to pile them pretty deep and you can soak them down, this compacts the clippings some. Even if this doesn't kill all the weeds it will make what's left easier to pull. Eventually the paper & the clippings become part of the soil. Earthworms love the clippings. Rhonda
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Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Jun 15 2006 : 2:32:20 PM
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I found some more information on "small flower galinsoga" on http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/organicweeds/weed_information/weed.php?id=40 - it says the seeds can be dormant up to 20 years in the soil.
I'm not sure if I have the "hairy galinsoga" or the "small flower galinsoga" but the pictures look exactly the same to me. They recommend repeated tillings or planting to grass for 3-4 years.
Since they are in every stage from 2 leaved seedlings to flowering plants I think I will be battling these for a while.
I bought some rolls of newsprint ends from the local newspaper printer, and was thinking of putting that down in between the garden rows, and using lawn clippings to mulch, as you suggest. The biggest problem with this weed is that it gets right up against your plants, and when you pull the weed, you risk pulling out the vegetable as well...
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Wendy
Utah
USA
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Posted - Jun 15 2006 : 2:49:35 PM
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this wont help this year but maybe next my grandfather use to put plastic tarp down after he was done with his garden and left it till right before he gardened the next year( i grew up in california) The hot sun on the black tarp made the ground so hot that it sterilized any seeds left in the grown and they would not grow. Don't know what it is like in Ohio just a thought.
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