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Here's to Your Health:  Opinion on Fybromialgia and cronic fatigue  |
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
 Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 04:58:38 AM
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I would like to know everyones opinion on these two diagnosis. I know they are very controversial. My husband has been diagnosed with this and I know a lot of Dr.s and people in general just think it is all in a persons head. I asure you whatever he has is not in his head he has been off work since May, in the hospital seen a million Drs. then we went to a rhumitoid Dr. and he said right off the bat thats what it was. It all started with a little tick bit. (Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever)
Thanks for the imput ladies.
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
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Roxy7
True Blue Farmgirl
1083 Posts
Robin
Denver
CO
USA
1083 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 06:04:42 AM
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| I have fibromyaglia and believe me its very real. Mine was brough on by an injury. I can imagine it could be brought on by an illness. |
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 06:54:13 AM
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Robin how are you dealing with it? This has been a nightmare.
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
What ever you are, be a good one. (Abe Lincoln) |
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Merry
True Blue Farmgirl
765 Posts
Merry
Ankeny
Iowa
USA
765 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 08:06:09 AM
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I have fibro also, diagnosed by my rheumatplogist. I am a mild case, but I have had it most of my life. Mine is worse when I am stressed and I have flares ups when I don't get enough sleep.
Merry
Farmgirl #536
http://iowafoodcoop.blogspot.com
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Ingrid
True Blue Farmgirl
432 Posts
Ingrid
BC
Canada
432 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 08:54:40 AM
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My sister has fibromyalgia brought on by three sets of cancer treatments over twenty years. Very real. Her way of coping is yoga type exercise which seems to help in a general way to keep all her muscles and joints moving. Very painful for her some days. Lots of things factor in to her flare ups. Unfortunately there are lots of people who think it is in someone's head but they are just not informed. Best wishes to you and your husband during this difficult time.
Give thanks to yourself everyday for all the wonderful things you do! |
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Roxy7
True Blue Farmgirl
1083 Posts
Robin
Denver
CO
USA
1083 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 12:24:59 PM
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Swimming has been my best relief. No impact on joints at all and the water is soothing. I am not doing aquacise currently because of a herniated disc, but plan to return to it as soon as possible. I try to be patient with myself. I have taken pretty much only tylenol for a while. Malic acid can help also.
I know it sounds like it cant work but exe4rcise really helps. You think you cant do it because of the fatigue and the pain, but it really gets better. Start slow and do what you can. |
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DaisyFarm
True Blue Farmgirl
1646 Posts
Diane
Victoria
BC
Canada
1646 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 12:29:25 PM
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My Mom has had it for 20 years and yes, it is very real. I think that has been the toughest part of it all for her, people don't seem to believe what they can't see or understand. She has heard sooo much advice as to what she should do, the big one is that "she just needs to get out more". It's been a rough haul.
I mention the following because it took ten years for her to find out...
One thing that people with CFS and associated fibromyalgia should be aware of is that sedimentation rates remain "normal" for people with this condition. If your sed rate is very high, the diagnosis is more likely polymyalgic rheumatica. Many can get remarkable relief and a semblance of a normal lifestyle with prednisone which will bring their sed rates into more normal values. While prednisone is certainly not without side effects, in some cases it can become a matter of quality of life.
Best wishes and gentle hugs to those of you who suffer from this. It's awful.
Diane |
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Mumof3
True Blue Farmgirl
3890 Posts
Karin
Ellenwood
GA
USA
3890 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 1:46:18 PM
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I have mild fibromyalgia and I keep it under control by diet- no artificial sweetners, eating whole grains, eating organic foods as much as possible and as close to their natural state as I can. I do notice that if I slip and have a diet Coke or something that I will hurt everywhere. Not fun. I do exercise because I'm afraid that if I don't I will not be able to move.
Karin
www.perfectlittlemiracle.blogspot.com
www.athreadofred.blogspot.com |
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Karrieann
True Blue Farmgirl
1900 Posts
Karrieann
Northeast
Georgia
USA
1900 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 2:42:39 PM
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..it is VERY real!
I do not have it but know few people that do and it takes so much out of them. My heart and prayers goes out to them that do have this.
Karrieann ~ Farmgirl Sister #766
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MasterGardener
True Blue Farmgirl
572 Posts
Chandra
Louisiana
USA
572 Posts |
Posted - Dec 01 2009 : 9:11:20 PM
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It took years to finally get over my chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia...I had been prescribed elavil, gained about 10 lbs in a very short amount of time, so stopped that, and was told exercise and a whole foods "diet" along with extra rest were key. Food allergies can trigger inflamation which increases pain. Exercise improves mood and alters/enhances metabolism and the "good" chemicals in the brain,so low impact (like swimming mentioned above) is vital. Look into adrenal burnout and address that if it's an issue. Stress is usually @ the core of chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia...stress management with whole, fresh foods, exercise, rest, talking to a counselor, they all helped me. Hope you find what works for your DH!
Say to them, may the Lord bless you and protect you, May the Lord smile upon you and be gracious to you. May the Lord show you His favor and give you His peace. (Numbers 6:23-26)
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MaryLD
True Blue Farmgirl
861 Posts
Mary
New Braunfels
TX
USA
861 Posts |
Posted - Dec 03 2009 : 2:23:35 PM
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I can see you have gotten a lot of great responses. I too have fibromyalgia- with a long history of adrenal fatigue due to chronic stress.
Acyetal Choline, found in bone marrow ( homemade broth) and lacto-fermented foods such as raw sauerkraut, can help a lot. Sometimes just some simple homepathic arnica can help, the 30c or 200c tablets as needed. Regular trips to see an acupuncturist can be good, and make a very big difference. I like to use the sauna unless i am very weak, but I do not have use of one right now.
Some would say Fibro is all really a complicated sleep disorder, with the key symptom of non restorative sleep. I suffered that for years. Heavy magnesium doses can also be good. It is said that people w/ fibro do not absorb magnesium properly.
I have not been so on top of taking care of myself, so it's good for me to read these posts!
One of the best treatments I've used was through www.neurorelief.com. They have testing and natural treatment for stress and adrenal related conditions. Right when we moved to TX they came up with a new product I need to check into for chronic inflammation.
I have gotten great relief from cranial osteopathy, cranial - sacral technique, and Feldenkreis. ( Not lately, though!!) It is also really important to balance the gut as most of our nuerotranmitters actually come from there- the " second brain." I can give ideas about that if anyone is interested.
~ Mary LD
TX
Haflingers- You can't have just one!
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
Posted - Dec 04 2009 : 07:19:14 AM
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Mary great to hear from you. My heart goes out to you and everyone else that has this crazy disease. I would love to hear any ideas that would help hubby out. Also can't hurt me to do it either. I appreciate any and all the great info out there.
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
What ever you are, be a good one. (Abe Lincoln) |
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MaryLD
True Blue Farmgirl
861 Posts
Mary
New Braunfels
TX
USA
861 Posts |
Posted - Dec 04 2009 : 09:10:45 AM
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Hi Laura,
I looked around on the internet to find a link about gut health and fibromyalgia. What I found was on google books. I can't copy links right now, but I think if you google for "google books The Feel Good Guide to Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue" you will find the book and also the opportunity to read several pages from it.
The idea is there is a direct link between the gut and the brain- the gut processes neurotansimitters. Many fibro people have irritable bowel as well, and that messes up dopamine and seratonin levels, with or without true IBS, in people w/ these symdromes. That in turn decreases pain thresholds, disturbs sleep, creates feelings of unhappiness. There is also the idea that when the gut becomes leaky due to food senstivities, stress,or wrong bacteria, toxins are released into the system, causing inflammation and pain. This can be chronic in Fibro people, and intereferes with nutrient assimilation also- to the degree of malnutrition of some nutrients in some people. Acytl choline helps heal the gut, and also helps reduce cytocine levels ( inflammatory over response in fibro people). This helps reduce inflammation. Acytl choline comes in supplement form. I have to get the name of the one from Neuro Science www.neurorelief.com. I spoke to them and it is very recommended for these conditions. I do not know the price. Acytl choline is also in raw, homemade sauerkraut- a great healer of the gut, of low mood, and thereby of pain. It is in broth made from bones, too.
My hand is sprained and I am running out of steam for typing! I can write again on Monday~
Mary LD
TX
Haflingers- You can't have just one!
( I'm just one short of a drill team!) |
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StarMeadow
True Blue Farmgirl
940 Posts
T
MI
940 Posts |
Posted - Dec 05 2009 : 4:53:19 PM
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When I had my first flare it was from a bout of diverticulitis. Man, I was out like a light for months! I slept constantly and still felt like I was not rested... I've been on tons of meds and was seeing an arthritis specialist for the last several years. Still, it comes/goes. Stress is definitely a trigger...and lack of sleep. I took myself off all the meds...they seemed to work/then not work...and the side effects have been awful. My best one though was a cancer drug called methotrexate. But, my skin got dry and my hair fell out. I was talking to someone about it the other day and she said they have meds to help with that too.... Maybe I'll talk about it with my dr. Now I've been dxd with Type 2 diabetes and high bp (both are responding to oral medication)
I think it's funny how drs can say "reduce stress" with a straight face.... If I could quit my stressful job and transform my stressful teen into some moderate behavior....don't they think I would?? It's a hoot really. I just keep plugging along. |
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MaryLD
True Blue Farmgirl
861 Posts
Mary
New Braunfels
TX
USA
861 Posts |
Posted - Dec 07 2009 : 7:06:32 PM
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Go, Starmeadow!
Haflingers- You can't have just one!
( I'm just one short of a drill team!) |
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vtstevens
True Blue Farmgirl
88 Posts
Virginia
Woodinville
WA
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - Dec 08 2009 : 1:04:01 PM
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Many fibromyalgia sufferers have undiagnosed sleep apnea, which needs to be investigated with a sleep study. You will be surprised when your sleep study is positive. symptoms often remit with beginning CPAP therapy. Talk it over with your doctor and get scheduled for a sleep study.
I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
Posted - Dec 09 2009 : 07:09:09 AM
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Virginia, dh is scheduled for a sleep test.
Thanks for the info.
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
What ever you are, be a good one. (Abe Lincoln) |
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ozarkjammer
Farmgirl in Training
33 Posts
Janíce
AR
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - Dec 10 2009 : 11:21:55 PM
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I have had fibromyalgia and reflex sympathetic dystrophy for ten years, and fibro is a real disease diagnosed by rheumatologists and approved for disability through Social Security. My husband is a sleep therapy technologist, and I know that low magnesium is one cause for lack of proper sleep.
I find that a combination of neurological suppressors and an antidepressant suited especially for fibromyalgia sufferers, in combination with a whole foods, higher protein diet lessens the flare ups and levels out the daily pain. I also use warm water aerobics at a public-accessible rehabilitation facility with daily stretching...and naps...lots and lots of naps!
I love to see the support here...you go, farmgirls!
Sister number 871 at your service, LOL!
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vtstevens
True Blue Farmgirl
88 Posts
Virginia
Woodinville
WA
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 1:39:15 PM
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Laura, how did the sleep study go? Only if you are comfortable sharing the information.....
Merry Christmas
I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2009 : 2:19:09 PM
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He hasn't had it yet. It is set for the 23rd of January. I am curious as to what it will tell us. I know he is a heavy snorer and does not sleep well. I will let you know as soon as we get it done. Thanks for asking.
laura
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
What ever you are, be a good one. (Abe Lincoln) |
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coffeemom
True Blue Farmgirl
160 Posts
Melody
Carlinville
IL
USA
160 Posts |
Posted - Dec 19 2009 : 8:36:58 PM
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I have fibromyalgia and I take Cymbalta, which really does help with pain, and Trazadone to help me sleep. There is nothing worse than sleep deprivation. I was a zombie until I finally broke down and got help. I really try to live a healthy life. Whole foods, as organic as possible. But there came a time when I just couldn't cope anymore and I needed to be me again! I don't regret it and hopefully I won't have to take them for a long time. But I will as long as I need to to live a productive life. Good luck.
Melody
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lilwing
True Blue Farmgirl
1403 Posts
Brooke
Fulshear
Texas
USA
1403 Posts |
Posted - Jan 03 2010 : 5:34:20 PM
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This is interesting! I wanted to check this forum and almost put up a fibro and CFS thread myself to see what others were doing. I have controlled it pretty good for the last two or so years but it is still a HUGE struggle. Lately, my shoulders are REALLY bad and falling asleep is difficult again. My pillows are NEVER good enough. I can't tell if this is fibro/CFS or arthritis... because I can tell when rain comes..the weather affects me MAJORLY... I also have a hereditary muscle atrophy so I don't know if maybe it stems all the way back to that, but I have been told by Drs. I have fibro/CFS too ..sooo.... it's confusing!
There are some new things you girls have mentioned so I am going to look into that. Thank you!
But, yes, this is VERY REAL!
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http://maggielousdaughter.blogspot.com
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
Posted - Jan 04 2010 : 05:33:18 AM
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Thanks for the input Brooke. It is a very frustrating disease. The wierd thing is I have alot of the same symptoms of my DH like sore muscles and feet swelling of my fingers super tired all the time. My problem is I have a bad Thyroid. Strange how they are so close What does the muscle atrophy do to you?
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
What ever you are, be a good one. (Abe Lincoln) |
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl
3775 Posts
sherry
bend in the high desert
oregon
USA
3775 Posts |
Posted - Jan 04 2010 : 10:37:19 AM
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| i know from my exp. that many who have fibro or cfs also have sleep apnea. i am not over weight at all and many of my dr.s said no i could not have sleep apnea. did sleep study anyway. yes i have apnea. i am a moderate level. the c-pap has been very helpful to me. i still struggle with pain when trying to sleep. at least now i breathe consistantly. many folks who have fibro or cfs actually do much better if they eliminate chemicals as in laundry soaps shampoos etc. with fragrence and eat a clean diet. like all us farm girls do.chemical sesitivity is actually a bench mark for cfs. for me it ended up a little different. drugs of any kind always made me sick all my life. no one ever had an explanation for us. 15 yrs ago i was diagnosed with a genetic defect in my liver. it is inherited usually, now they have discovered that it can happen to folks from heavy exposure to a strong chemical during a weak or stressful period in ones life. there is an excellant website that received germanys nobel prize for its research in cfs,fibro,and porphyria.car painters asbestos exposure pesticide applicaters can have this happen to them.i mention this since at least for me getting rid of toxic chemicals in small amounts even did help a lot. i searched for my whole life to try to find out why i was so intolerant to some things.now if i am careful handle stress as best i can i can do fairly well also. this is just a thought. i used to help dr.s with their patients to help them modify lifestyle. folks who have had chemo are a strong candidate for the porphyris. the treatment destroys some of the enzymes required to make red blood cells in the liver pathway. happy days sherrye |
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lilwing
True Blue Farmgirl
1403 Posts
Brooke
Fulshear
Texas
USA
1403 Posts |
Posted - Jan 16 2010 : 2:58:16 PM
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Laura, I can't over do any exercise and got to be careful. The muscles atrophy.. meaning.. they won't regain any strength..they keep getting weaker... my toes curl up as well as my little fingers...sounds worse than mine is... well, it can be REALLY bad for some... I'm not sure how bad I am to tell you the truth but I can hide it..I consider myself to be on the worse side of mild... LOL... maybe medium? I have to be careful with vitamin b6 (having too much) and a list of other things... my muscles cramp badly as well... so mix that with the fibro/cfs and/or arthritis (I can't tell you if it is all those things or all the same, to be perfectly honest, because the muscle atrophy has pain too) ..... and it's a pain in the.. you-know-what!
This is the most I've talked about this online. LOL.
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82kygal
True Blue Farmgirl
548 Posts
Laura
Somerset
Kentucky
USA
548 Posts |
Posted - Jan 16 2010 : 4:38:42 PM
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Brooke glad to hear from you. I am learning so much. Most of all it is just (sad) but nice to know we are not the only ones going through this. It is the most frustrating thing we have ever gone through. I feel for you and everyone else that has to deal with this crazy disease. Are you taking any meds for it? What does B-6 do to you? We are just taking it all one day at a time.
We went out on a date today out to eat but we had to do it lunch style because dh is tired and sore by 4:00pm so I just take what I can get and when. LOL! But it was a great day. We haven't done that in a long while. I hate this stuff.
With God, all things are possible. (Mark 10:27)
What ever you are, be a good one. (Abe Lincoln) |
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Here's to Your Health: Opinion on Fybromialgia and cronic fatigue |
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Opinion on Fybromialgia and cronic fatigue
