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chaddsgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

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Sarah
Farmgirl Sisterhood #639 MO
USA
843 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  1:29:28 PM  Show Profile
A friend and I have picked about 10 gallons of blackberries in the last 7 days. So it's time to make jam. I love blackberry jam, but there are SOOOOO many seeds! I thought about straining it, but then I lose the pulp along with the seeds and it turns out more like jelly. How do you can blackberry jam? With or without the seeds?

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lovelady
True Blue Farmgirl

533 Posts

Toni
Indiana
USA
533 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  1:48:16 PM  Show Profile
Congratulations on your berry harvest! Mine were not very plentiful this year, so I'm glad we had a good year last year. I find that my laziness outweighs my dislike for seeds, so I don't worry about straining them out of my jam, but my mom does, and her's turns out really well, too. Have fun, whatever you decide to do! It will be delicious either way!
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chaddsgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

843 Posts

Sarah
Farmgirl Sisterhood #639 MO
USA
843 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  1:53:17 PM  Show Profile
LOL!!! Thanks Toni!! I already wasted one gallon making a double batch of jam last week that turned out more like thick syrup. It tasted good, but I wasn't being careful so now we have 8 pints of blackberry syrup. Made me sick that I wasted good berries, but I'll find some way to use it. I hate admitting failure, but at least I have enough berries to redeem myself.

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1badmamawolf
True Blue Farmgirl

2199 Posts

Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
USA
2199 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  3:04:36 PM  Show Profile
Blackberry syrup on homemade vanilla ice cream, yummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  3:08:12 PM  Show Profile
I leave the seeds..haven't had a complaint yet..Yum! I just love blackberries..my favorite berry for sure. I have a few strawberries and a few boysenberries growing...NEED to put out blackberries next year!

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Diane B Carter
True Blue Farmgirl

1270 Posts

Diane
Blasdell N.Y.
USA
1270 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  5:38:30 PM  Show Profile
My girlfriend Peggy made me some blackberrie jam that is really good No seeds at all so I now want to try to make some for gifts. No seeds will be the way I am going to try to make it. My brother and a neighbor can not eat seeds. Any tips??? I have never made jam or jelly and I'm a little scared. But I bet the blackberry sauce over vanilla ice cream is heavenly. I don't think its a mistake. I think people would like the sauce, I know I would.

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Hosanna
True Blue Farmgirl

466 Posts

Hosanna
Alton Virginia
466 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  5:50:26 PM  Show Profile
I usually crush half of the berries and put the rest through a food mill to remove seeds. That way it's not exactly jelly, and there are fewer seeds, at least.
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lovelady
True Blue Farmgirl

533 Posts

Toni
Indiana
USA
533 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  6:32:28 PM  Show Profile
Sarah, that is SO not a waste of good berries!! Think how great blackberry syrup will be on ice cream, pancakes, waffles....People pay lots of money for fruit syrups! I pretty much did that last year when I was trying to make peach butter. It is great stirred into some yogurt and granola!
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  8:11:31 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Hmmm- Sarah- If you want to off load that blackberry syrup...I would adopt it and give it a good home :D LOL

Any way- I have never made jam, but I have made blackberry pies when I had a good patch near by. I just left the seeds in.

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Roxy7
True Blue Farmgirl

1083 Posts

Robin
Denver CO
USA
1083 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  8:17:50 PM  Show Profile
blackberry syrup is delicious added to a pitcher of iced tea.
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quiltin mama
True Blue Farmgirl

436 Posts

Heather
Crescent City CA
USA
436 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  8:41:07 PM  Show Profile
Hosanna had a great idea by using half and half. I always can mine with all the seeds. I don't like it without! :)

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Cabinprincess
True Blue Farmgirl

682 Posts

Melody June
Athens TX
USA
682 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  8:55:19 PM  Show Profile
I don't like the seeds at all but I do love the pulpiness of jam so I do a cheater version. I have a old enamel fruit juicer/steamer. You put all the fruit in the top section, water in the bottom, and the steam rises up to the fruit and somehow sucks all the juice out and it drains it to the middle section and out the drain tube into my container. All the pulp and seeds get left behind and I have gallons of juice. Now here is the cheater part. I take a hand full of seedless grapes and pulse them a couple times in the food processor and then put them in with the batch of juice I'm going to make the jam with. The juice is strong enough that the grape pulp just absorbs it and you would never know it was really grape pulp. But you have NO seeds and don't have to do all that mashing and grinding. You can find older fruit juice steamers on Ebay if you keep an eye out for them but if you do a lot of jelly's and jams it is worth the investment for a new one. I am even wondering now if I could not get the same thing using my Mr. Juicer. I've never put berries in it but am going to try and see what comes out. Also I don't always like being in the hot kitchen jelly making in the hot summer so I freeze most of my juice and wait for the coolness of fall to start mine.
Smiles, Melody June

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Marybeth
True Blue Farmgirl

6418 Posts

Mary Beth
Stanwood Wa 98292
USA
6418 Posts

Posted - Jul 28 2009 :  11:08:03 PM  Show Profile
I use a Foley mill to get the seeds out or skins if I make grape Jam. It isn't quite jelly because you get some fibers etc so it is jam without seeds.

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Lynner
True Blue Farmgirl

225 Posts

Sheri
Missouri
USA
225 Posts

Posted - Jul 29 2009 :  05:24:38 AM  Show Profile
Sarah, there is no waste in what you did, it is all good! I have not found any place to pick blackberries, so good for you. You really hit the mother load of blackberries. In the past, with all the blackberries I was able to have, I always left the seeds in, not a problem. But then I dont mind tomato skins in my jars either. I eat it all. For some who have health issues, of course you would have to strain them. Happy blackberrying.
Sheri

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palmettogirl
True Blue Farmgirl

571 Posts

sue
camden south carolina
USA
571 Posts

Posted - Jul 29 2009 :  05:29:12 AM  Show Profile
it does taste great on ice cream...pancakes, etc. so how about making pretty little fabric tops with ribbons and giving some of them out as christmas gifts?! oh, by the way, this may sound weird but, i will saute' fresh tuna so that it's cooked on the outside and closer to raw on the inside and serve it with a drop of wasabi or maybe a little horseraddish and some blueberry sauce. (the hot/spicy part makes it a little like sushi). like i said, it sounds weird but it tastes good--to me, at least!!
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chaddsgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

843 Posts

Sarah
Farmgirl Sisterhood #639 MO
USA
843 Posts

Posted - Jul 29 2009 :  07:06:41 AM  Show Profile
Diane - My mother-in-law recently had a colon blockage removed and is no longer allowed to eat seeds, nuts, veggie or fruit skins etc. Pretty much the same diet they give to people with diverticulitis. About that time I was canning strawberry jam. I didn't have a food mill or anything, so I used an old pair of panty hose to strain the seeds out and get "strawberry juice" to make strawberry jelly. I sterilized the pantyhose in boiling water before straining the fruit. Worked like a charm and she loved the jelly!

I really should invest in a food mill or look into the fruit steamer. I personally don't mind the seeds, but I do have to take precautions now when canning for my in-laws. Thanks for all the great suggestions ladies!! YOu guys are the best! And thanks for making me feel better about my blackberry "syrup". LOL!!! I was just really dissapointed because my husband doesn't like fruit syrup and I don't know what the heck I'm going to do with all of it. :) Apparently I have found some takers!!

A person is a success if they get up in the morning and get to bed at night and in between does what they want to do. Bob Dylan
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Diane B Carter
True Blue Farmgirl

1270 Posts

Diane
Blasdell N.Y.
USA
1270 Posts

Posted - Jul 29 2009 :  11:51:36 AM  Show Profile
I used my neighbor's fruit juicer, it was fast. All the blackberries done it a minute. Then I just added the sugar-free fruit pectin till it boiled then I added a cup of splenda. I cooked that until it did not foam then I canned them I only got 6 small jars, they all sealed but are still runny. I read they may take up to a week to set.
Was I suppose to do anything else?? Peggy said the recipe was on the box, I read the box and the paper and I was lost. I need hands on help or at least steps tp follow. Next week the blackberries should be done I'm hoping to get to Liz's land she said they have a lot in their back yard I can have for a jar of jelly.

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chaddsgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

843 Posts

Sarah
Farmgirl Sisterhood #639 MO
USA
843 Posts

Posted - Jul 29 2009 :  12:04:04 PM  Show Profile
I know the use of actual sugar plays a very strong role in whether or not the jam/jelly sets. Sure Jell has a pink box that specifically indicates low or no sugar recipies and if I remember correctly also has a recipie where splenda can be used. But I would think (just my opinion) that using splenda may have caused it not to set. I still have the recipe for low/no sugar and will be happy to get it for you, but you have to make sure you are using a pectin that will allow this.

When splenda first came out I tried substituting it for sugar in everything with very mixed results. Like when I used it to make my famous hot fudge sauce, the sauce WOULD NOT get thick no matter how long I cooked it. Eventually I abandoned the use of Splenda. It aggravated me.

A person is a success if they get up in the morning and get to bed at night and in between does what they want to do. Bob Dylan

Edited by - chaddsgirl on Jul 29 2009 12:10:13 PM
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Diane B Carter
True Blue Farmgirl

1270 Posts

Diane
Blasdell N.Y.
USA
1270 Posts

Posted - Jul 29 2009 :  1:32:32 PM  Show Profile
It was hard on the sides of the pan and on the spoon, so I think it will set up alright it's still to warm to check. I was more afraid I made rubber jelly. I guess I will have to wait & see. I want some one to say you need 4 cups of this and 2 cups of that and cook it for XXX minutes ect. Instead they said I needed 4 cups of prepared blackberrys but didn't say how to prepare them. Add lemon juice (if) listed in recipe. I can't find a recipe. That aggravated me.

Hope all your days are Sunnydays.
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Diane B Carter
True Blue Farmgirl

1270 Posts

Diane
Blasdell N.Y.
USA
1270 Posts

Posted - Jul 30 2009 :  07:26:59 AM  Show Profile
I just opened one of the jars and boy is it tart. I think I will add more sugar, a lot more.

Hope all your days are Sunnydays.
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Rivergirl_2007
True Blue Farmgirl

332 Posts

Shirley
Karnak IL
USA
332 Posts

Posted - Aug 09 2009 :  11:50:03 AM  Show Profile
Sarah - I purposely make Blackberry Sauce/Syrup - we use it on ice cream, to make milk shakes, on pancakes/waffles/french toast. Please do not look at it as a mistake, but rather as a whole new pantry item. As for seeds, I prefer the seeds myself. I'm not sure - I think preserves are with seeds, jam is with pulp and no seeds, and jelly is with juice. I also make conserves (preserves with finely chopped fruits or nuts added).
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Maryjane Lee
True Blue Farmgirl

2195 Posts

Maryjane
CA
USA
2195 Posts

Posted - Aug 11 2009 :  2:59:04 PM  Show Profile
LOVE it with seeds! Yum!

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Maryjane Lee

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