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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

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Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
865 Posts

Posted - Jul 01 2009 :  7:19:54 PM  Show Profile
I just brought home a little bummer lamb. He wandered thru a gate away from his mamma and after quite awhile he was found and mamma wouldn't take him back. I am feeding him raw goatmilk from my Nubians and a little colostrum just in case. What else should I do? He's skinny! Not exactly thriving.
He had been on replacement formula, which he didn't like and didn't do well on, so the owner gave him to me for free hoping I can save him.

Dalyn

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1badmamawolf
True Blue Farmgirl

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Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
USA
2199 Posts

Posted - Jul 01 2009 :  7:24:46 PM  Show Profile
Are his lungs clear, and are his nostrils clear? If not, he has respitory problems, which is comman in bummers, he'll need a vet to look at him. Keep him warm and dry , I always keep my bummers in the kitchen. I have lost a few over the years, sometimes they just won't even try to live, its sad.

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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

865 Posts

Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
865 Posts

Posted - Jul 01 2009 :  7:47:59 PM  Show Profile
thanks. He is clear. I have him in the house *U* He seems curious...he sleeps alot though.

Dalyn

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AlyssaMarie
True Blue Farmgirl

287 Posts

AlyssaMarie
Palouse Washington
USA
287 Posts

Posted - Jul 01 2009 :  9:35:41 PM  Show Profile
We took in 7 bottle lambs this spring and learned a lot pretty fast. The biggest thing is making sure they eat enough that they don't get hypothermic. I had one that got too cold and I had to learn how to tube feed him his formula until he learned to drink the lamb replacer formula. We've had great luck with the Land O Lakes brand. I learned a handy trick on taking a lambs temp really quick: you stick your finger in their mouth and if its anything except good and warm, then its time to do something. Beyond tube feeding, we also took an old moving cardboard box and cut a hole in each side, the lamb stuck its head out one side and we put a hair dryer in the other side with warm air blowing. We left the top covered with just an old towel. This was a tip given to us by a shepherdess with a flock of about 50 ewes. I hope this helps. Best of luck. Our 7 are all doing great by the way and some are just adorable and incredibly affectionate.

AlyssaMarie @ Link'd Hearts Ranch
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grace gerber
True Blue Farmgirl

2804 Posts

grace
larkspur colorado
USA
2804 Posts

Posted - Jul 01 2009 :  9:55:36 PM  Show Profile
Here are a some of my tricks. First when I make replacer I put l/2 goats milk half replacer powder with pedialite (Yes, the human type) This will add in the little one not getting the runs. I also use a baby bottle with the harder tip nipple which I enlarge the hold some so that the formula will flow but not run out. This way if the little on does not have good suck reflex at the beginning he will still get formula but not have to be tubed - that is sometimes more then they can handle. I wash them in warm water to bring their core temp up and dry with hair dryer. I keep them in a landry basket to take them everywhere until I know they are well on their way. Remember they eat very little but way way way often so it is best to do that type of feeding for the first 72 hours and then start to spread out. They need to also hear a heart beat - I found the old fashion alarm clock works - just place it in the basket. Then once you turn the corner I can give more advice on managing a little one if you need it.

Good luck and he will be in my prayers tonight - please do not hesitate to ask for more assistance if you need it - there are tons of tricks I have learned after 13 years of bottle kids, lambs, llamas, and puppies. I am here to help if you need it.

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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

865 Posts

Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
865 Posts

Posted - Jul 02 2009 :  07:25:59 AM  Show Profile
YOu ladies are fabulous, thanks! We made it thru the night just fine, it was about 90 yesterday so the house was planety warm. I am keeping the lamb in a big rubbermade lined with toweling and newspapers. He woke up this morning andstood up, poked his little head over the side to watch me and after I heated up some raw goat milk, I gave him his bottle and now he's napping again. He likes the milk! I was wondering if I should give him a Vit. B shot and some BoSe?

Dalyn

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Jami
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jami
Ellensburg WA
USA
1238 Posts

Posted - Jul 03 2009 :  10:23:38 AM  Show Profile
Dalyn, he needs Bo-Se if he's from around here. We are very deficient in selenium in this part of the state, as you are well aware of I am sure. I give 1/2 cc for newborns.

I like Pritchard teats myself. They cost a bit more but you'll only need one until he's weaned off the bottle and I also make a generous hole. I can get mine here in Eburg at Old Mill but I believe Animal Pharmaceuticals carry them also.

He'll also need a CDT shot since he didn't get his mother's colostrum, if you give those sorts of shots. 2 ml now and 2 ml in 3 weeks.

I always take temps and make sure they are not a bit hypothermic. Constipation in a newborn can show these symptoms and then an enema might be in order. I use the stomach tuber with warm soapy water and tube it in the rear just a teensy bit enough to cover the tuber's hole, a couple tablespoons is all it takes or until it starts to come back out, hold finger over the rear until lamb starts to get uncomfortable and let go and have a towel or rag ready under his bum. If meconium type stuff comes out, he probably was constipated. I imagine you know what he's been eliminating since he's inside and you're cleaning up after him. I have had this scenario a few times and you'd be surprised how much having a good BM improves their attitude towards eating and brings their temp to normal.

Hope he's doing well today. I feed every 4 hours when they are out in the lambing shed but inside I guess you could go as often as you like but getting him good and hungry might make him nurse better. Good luck. Bet you're attached to him already so I hope he makes it. With bummers you just never know.

Jami in WA

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Edited by - Jami on Jul 03 2009 10:26:01 AM
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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

865 Posts

Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
865 Posts

Posted - Jul 04 2009 :  10:37:50 AM  Show Profile
He's got the scours baaaad! I have been giving him pepto w/ limited relief, now on to keopectate.

Dalyn

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Edited by - QueenofQuiteAlot on Jul 04 2009 10:43:14 AM
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Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Jul 04 2009 :  12:12:08 PM  Show Profile
After dosing with the kaopectate you may want to give him a little yogurt with live cultures..just to get his gut back in line afterwards. Poor little guy. I have only raised one bummer lamb and then a little angora goat too (she is 7 years old now and doing great) it isn't easy but worth it!

Jenny in Utah
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Jami
True Blue Farmgirl

1238 Posts

Jami
Ellensburg WA
USA
1238 Posts

Posted - Jul 06 2009 :  08:15:42 AM  Show Profile
So have his scours gone Dalyn? I'd try some Probiotic gel if he is. Your idea of Pepto or Kaopectate is good. I believe the Pedialyte is a good idea as well that Grace mentioned.

Alyssa also did a lot of the tricks I do for newborns that get hypothermia. It sounds like your little guy is beyond this stage now?

Let us know. Hoping he's doing well and you're not going mad trying to add him to your repertoire of life.

Jami in WA

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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

865 Posts

Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
865 Posts

Posted - Jul 06 2009 :  08:51:04 AM  Show Profile
Jami, he's doing great now. Started pooping "normal poops" yesterday. He's got lots more energy- trying to get out of his box and complaining now *U* He loves to be outside, which is natural of course, so we take turns "babysitting" him on the lawn until he's big enough to go to the barn. The goats will put the whoop on him if he's not got a mamma to protect him.
Thanks for all your advice!

Dalyn

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QueenofQuiteAlot
True Blue Farmgirl

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Dalyn
Milk 'n Honey Ranch Central, WA
USA
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Posted - Jul 06 2009 :  08:53:49 AM  Show Profile
Thanks to you all- great women!

Dalyn

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AlyssaMarie
True Blue Farmgirl

287 Posts

AlyssaMarie
Palouse Washington
USA
287 Posts

Posted - Jul 06 2009 :  3:00:14 PM  Show Profile
Jami - all of ours are doing fabulous. The three older ones are completely weaned and on green pasture now. The younger 4 are just starting to get weaned but have been spending most of their time grazing with the older ones. Everyone is gaining weight and doing great. We learned a lot really fast this spring and want to keep on going. The lambs have been lots of fun.

AlyssaMarie @ Link'd Hearts Ranch
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Jami
True Blue Farmgirl

1238 Posts

Jami
Ellensburg WA
USA
1238 Posts

Posted - Jul 07 2009 :  08:07:59 AM  Show Profile
Great news all around. That's nice to hear. We weighed lambs last night and 21 are going to market this Saturday with about 30 not quite yet ready. They grow quickly once they are out on pasture.

Good shepherdessing girls!

Jami in WA

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