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Peg Graham
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Peg
Chesapeake Virginia
USA
281 Posts

Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  4:45:04 PM  Show Profile
Ok, so over 2 months ago we did Square Foot Gardening, only my husband decided to do it his way and didn't follow Mel's advice on using his soil mixture. Our veggies haven't produced anything yet...the tomatoes...one small green one and 6 romas all tiny and still green after showing themselves 2 weeks ago. What happened??? Then, there's the flower gardens....those are growing....but like weeds!!!!Only one orange flower....lavender won't grow, sunflower stalks are a few feet tall, no flowers yet. the rest...just green and bushy, leafy....no color. Am I just impatient? HELP!

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dutchgirl
Farmgirl in Training

26 Posts

Lorraine
Hanover PA
USA
26 Posts

Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  6:39:36 PM  Show Profile
It is still early-esp if you started from seeds. Or your beds are not deep enough, fertile enough, or enough water. Tonight I planted some starter plants because I'm impatient and I have little sprouts -instead of the beautiful tomato plants at the store. Anyway-when I dugged the hole for the plants -the soil was healthy with a ton of worms and life. My old beds that are just 4 inches tall are not doing as well as the deep beds of 8-12 inches deep. Start with the best soil and everything will fall into place-be patient. Good luck.Lorraine Farmgirl #500
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Windsong
True Blue Farmgirl

309 Posts

LaVonna
Decatur Tx
309 Posts

Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  6:59:23 PM  Show Profile
I did square foot gardens a few years back. I dug the bed and added compost and I took the donkey poop and added it. The reason I say that is that donkey poop seems to compost to powder in a weeks time. Anyway, I put that powdered poop in the beds and things grew like dynamite. I loved this method.

Compost is a such a great addition to garden soil in this area. Don't give up but you may have to amend your soil. I now do raised beds in a 4x8 plan but other than that it is the same idea. I planted in March things that are growing like crazy now. My tomato plants, swiss chard, turnips, squash, there is spinach growing under the squash leaves. Green beens are doing well. But I am in Texas and our last freeze was late for Texas even and it was in early April. We have had really good weather for gardens.
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laurzgot
True Blue Farmgirl

1682 Posts

Laurie
Alvin Texas
USA
1682 Posts

Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  7:59:29 PM  Show Profile
I do raised beds also with compost. My place is in Texas also,but closer to the gulfcoast. I started my seeds indoors in Feb. than but in raised beds in middle march or so. The tomato plants, cucumbers are all doing well. Still getting some bush beans and lettuce we got to eat those first. Just be patient and water. You might want to airate the soil. Best of luck.
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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl

2045 Posts

Brenda
Lucas Ohio
USA
2045 Posts

Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  8:23:33 PM  Show Profile
Your local extension office will do a soil test for you at a reasonable price. Unless you know the pH and the NPK of the soil, it is anybody's guess as to why you might be having trouble.



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ruralfarmgirl
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Rene'
Prosser WA
USA
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Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  8:46:31 PM  Show Profile  Send ruralfarmgirl a Yahoo! Message
Hey Peg,
One of the important parts to Mel's method is the 5 different sources for your compost, so that there are plenty of nurtients in the soil. I would try adding soil adds like coffee grounds ( if it is like lettuce) or other natural soil builders.. Just google "natural soil builders" and you will get a list. But there is time....

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Windsong
True Blue Farmgirl

309 Posts

LaVonna
Decatur Tx
309 Posts

Posted - Jun 12 2009 :  10:12:45 PM  Show Profile
Rene is right. While I did use mostly ingredients from the farm I also added alfalfa meal and it was amazing how much that helped. I need to do that again to my current garden plots.
The soil test is a good idea. In my area some of the terrain is lacking magnesium and you can just add epsom salt. But you need to know before you start getting too far into it.
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pamcook
True Blue Farmgirl

228 Posts

Pam
Chapel Hill NC
USA
228 Posts

Posted - Jun 15 2009 :  06:05:23 AM  Show Profile
I agree - check the soil. I didn't pay attention to the correct ratio with Mel's mix last year and what a disaster. This year, I corrected the ratio and everything is growing like crazy. Seriously, folks are amazed that someone who spends maybe 5 minutes a week piddling in her garden has such healthy plants.

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mikesgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

3659 Posts

Sherri
Elma WA
USA
3659 Posts

Posted - Jun 15 2009 :  09:27:29 AM  Show Profile
I agree - it's still early. I don't know about Virginia but over here we haven't gotten any tomato blossoms yet in our garden and I feel like it's right on schedule so add some nutrients from the list Rene suggested and you should be fine. Let us know!

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sonshine4u
Chapter Guru

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April
New Prague MN
USA
1205 Posts

Posted - Jun 16 2009 :  1:56:23 PM  Show Profile
Check on your seed packets the amount of days till fruit/flowers should appear. That should help you also with the waiting game of your garden growing!

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SpiritedRose
Farmgirl in Training

22 Posts

Michelle
Chestertown MD
USA
22 Posts

Posted - Jun 18 2009 :  08:59:34 AM  Show Profile
We used to get lots of people that would come out with their pickups and scoop manure from our solid pile (from dairy cows) and take it home to put on their gardens. Plus, they paid us in free produce ;)

Look for a farm and get some poo goin!!

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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Jun 19 2009 :  01:49:27 AM  Show Profile
I never used Mel's soil mix. I got my soil from a local company that was 1/3 sand, 1/3 compost and 1/3 loam. Things always did pretty well. One year we change the source for the soil and it was a disaster. I would definitely have the soil tested. Are you fertilizing?? It almost sounds like too much nitrogen.


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azgardengirl
Farmgirl in Training

13 Posts

Camille
Gilbert Arizona
USA
13 Posts

Posted - Jul 09 2009 :  10:04:53 AM  Show Profile
I have raised beds and use the SFG method from Mel's book, which I love, but didn't fill with his soil mix recipe. It took a whole growing season for my soil to become "active" and now everything is wonderful. But the first season, I had exactly the same problem as you. Just keep on growing. The soil has to "wake up".

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4HMom
True Blue Farmgirl

720 Posts

Kelly
Montana
720 Posts

Posted - Jul 09 2009 :  11:42:22 AM  Show Profile
I agree with Brenda...even a little bit off on pH affects the micro and macro nutrients that the plants can utilize, even if they're in the soil. If the pH is off, nothing else will fall into place. Here in the intermountain west (Montana), we deal with alkaline soil. VA and WA usually have to deal with more acidic soil. If you're unable to get a soil test (or they're too expensive), the OTC soil tests at least give you a ball park to start from.

Good luck!!!

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quiltin mama
True Blue Farmgirl

436 Posts

Heather
Crescent City CA
USA
436 Posts

Posted - Jul 14 2009 :  5:36:30 PM  Show Profile
I would agree that your first step would be to check your soil. Sq. Ft. gardening, I'm assuming, would require a VERY high nutrient soil. Most plants like to be spaced out (i.e. tomatoes and broccoli from 24 to 36 inches between each one.) That way they have plenty of nutrients to draw from in the space around them.
I know that our local co-op has soil testers for something around $5.00.
Good luck and I hope that your garden is up and growing well soon! :)

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