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Stitching & Crafting Room:  Question: Knitting pattern books, gifts/sales  |
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl
4810 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
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 Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 06:47:43 AM
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Having a dilemma...I made this lovely hat for our friend's babe, from a pattern book that I bought at my fave knitting shop (for $30.00). Other's have asked me to make the hat for them (they'll pay), people have stopped her on the street when she's walking with Olive to ask where they could buy the hat, and a small boutique around the corner from us would like to have a couple on consignment. So I'm wondering--what's the rule? I have free patterns from the internet where they specifically state, "make this as a gift, but please don't sell it", but if I pay $30.00 for a book of patterns, what then?
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oldfashioned girl
True Blue Farmgirl
2391 Posts
monica
oatman
az
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 07:18:14 AM
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February Violet, First off, Welcome to farmgirl connection!! I would say as far as the pattern, to check in the front of the book and see if it says anything as far as whether or not you are permitted to use the patterns to make things for sale! I have some painting books that say you are welcome to use the patterns to paint things for sale at craft shows etc. and I have another book that says you can't use specific patterns for sale, but all the other ones are okay! I hope this helps!
Monica
farmgirls rule!
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl
4810 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
4810 Posts |
Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 07:22:38 AM
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| Thanks so much--for the welcome, and the information! If I did make them, I would certainly give credit where credit is due (afterall, some of my hats just end up looking like mushrooms :)). I will check the front of the book, for sure. |
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Bellepepper
True Blue Farmgirl
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Belle
Coffeyville
KS
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 07:24:32 AM
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| I didn't know there was a knitting police. If you think your customer might run into the internet person, here is what you might do. Make some cookies or something, sell your customer a couple of cookies for $30 and "gift" them the hat. |
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soapmommy60543
True Blue Farmgirl
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Ann
Oswego
IL
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 07:36:33 AM
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There are no knitting/crafting police, but there are copyright laws. If someone creates something, and wants that idea protects (and to make a little $$$ off of it), they have it copyrighted. FV - you may want to check with the publisher as well...
Ann in Oswego
http://suburbanprairiehouse.wordpress.com
Times may be tough, but farmgirls are tougher!
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl
4810 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
4810 Posts |
Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 07:38:20 AM
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| LOL! Not so much a knitting police, as say, a copyright police. I feel that if I did make the hats, in order to sell them, I would need to give credit to the patternmaker, if copyrighted. The new presidential administration is appointing a whole legal counsel solely for this and other "intellectual property" matters because of the wide use and availability of information on the internet. |
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BarefootGoatGirl
True Blue Farmgirl
1495 Posts
Corrine
North Carolina
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 09:05:43 AM
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i also find this topic to be confusing and frustraiting. when it comes to sewing projects, the solution i have come up with is to purchase the sewing pattern as part of the supplies and add it to the cost of the finished project. then i bundle the pattern and the scrap fabric up and return it all to the customer with the finished garment. that way i am only taking credit for the labor.
What we write today slipped into our souls some other day when we were alone and doing nothing.
-Brenda Ueland
http://quilandneedle.blogspot.com/
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl
4810 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
4810 Posts |
Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 09:11:36 AM
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I, too, tried to think of it in terms of sewing. I mean, honestly, with all the patterns that are out there on the market, one would HAVE to use one to make something to sell. Certainly wedding dress makers do--and charge for that, plus the fabric.
I think your idea is a good one--and makes perfect sense. Do you calculate your labor hourly? The response to this little hat has been overwhelming, and I honestly think I could make a bit of dough which would come in handy with our new baby expected in February, but I want to be fair. The yarn alone cost $8.95 per skein (3 of each color), but I used only half of the main color, and a quarter to a 16th of the other two. Labor wise, it took me consecutively about 16 hours.
Just curious about your thoughts, Corrine. |
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oldfashioned girl
True Blue Farmgirl
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monica
oatman
az
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 09:33:46 AM
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Belle, I like the cookie idea!!! I have a book of designs for sweaters and it says on the inside that the designs may not be knitted for resale and inside interweave knits it says the patterns are for inspiration and intended for personal use only! On the other hand who was the very first person to come up with the idea for circle dresses? Most sewing patterns say the same thing! I would suggest altering the pattern to make it your own! I have to say it does get kind of frustrating because it's not as though I am going to run out and make millions off someone's pattern but on the other hand I have a pattern that I am trying to figure out how to get a copyright on! I would not mind if individual people made them to sell, but if it goes well I don't want a big company picking it up and I get shut out with my own pattern if it's not protected!
Monica
farmgirls rule!
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BarefootGoatGirl
True Blue Farmgirl
1495 Posts
Corrine
North Carolina
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 09:59:40 AM
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violet,
i charge for labor by the hour and with the experience i have in sewing i can usualy give a good estimate before i start a project. since i knit constantly for stress relief i usualy just give my knitwear away or charge a nominal fee. for sewing, i charge $8-10 per hour depending on who i'm working for, how busy i am, or how quickly the project needs to be finished. in the case where the project took far less of the materials than purchased and you could use the remainder on future projects, i would charge only for the materials used and keep the remained for future projects.
btw...do you have a pic of the hat? i would like to see it.
What we write today slipped into our souls some other day when we were alone and doing nothing.
-Brenda Ueland
http://quilandneedle.blogspot.com/
http://musingandmuttering.blogspot.com |
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl
4810 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
4810 Posts |
Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 10:01:23 AM
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Thanks, Corrine...I'd love to show you a photo...I managed to take a couple before giving it to little Olive, so I will figure out how to upload them to the forum.
Thanks for your breakdown--it can be very difficult when so little of the material/yarn is used, to have a dollar cost breakdown. |
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Beverley
True Blue Farmgirl
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Beverley
atlanta
Michigan
USA
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Posted - Nov 25 2008 : 10:22:03 AM
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I would love to see the hat too. Sounds really cute...
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