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emsmommy5
True Blue Farmgirl

1547 Posts

Angie
Buckley WA
USA
1547 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  12:44:56 PM  Show Profile
I will be dodging the internet arrows now.... but I just have to get something off my chest. I haven't seen any nastiness or opinions on politics, religion, etc. that have been over the line in any way.

I love to hear other's opinions, thoughts, insights on politics, religions, schooling, family matters, etc. Even if those opinions don't agree with my own. How else do we learn? How do we grow? How do we become more tolerant and understanding of others?

If someone doesn't want to read posts about religions, politics, or any other "hot" topics... then make an adult choice and don't. But that doesn't mean that others can't talk about those things (within the confines of being nice of course.) If someone doesn't want to read a thread, they don't have too. It's all about choice and being accountable for one's own reactions.

It's frustrating and causes me more heartache to see farmgirls apologizing and/or wanting to leave because they inadvertantly typed something that didn't match up with someone else's opinion.

I got a pm the other day because I had inadvertantly offended someone. I didn't see where my comments, when read in context, came close to saying what was implied. But you know, if there was personal hurt, then it was my place to fix it. So hopefully I did.

It is also important to keep in mind, there is NO body language, no voice inflection or other non-verbal clues to help understand the typed words on the screen. We don't know if the person is having a bad day or feeling sick when they write comments. It's just words. We all put our own non-verbal take on them.

I know that while I type this I am feeling sad and heart-heavy for those who think they have done wrong. I also feel sorry for those who may not be open to my comments and may take offense when absolutely none is intended- towards anyone!!! Sometimes we can write in a very matter-of-fact style and it can come across differently to different people.

Returning to my boring and dirty job of tearing carpet off the steps.




Farmgirl #208

What are you doing with your dash?

Aunt Jenny
True Blue Farmgirl

11381 Posts

Jenny
middle of Utah
USA
11381 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  1:02:34 PM  Show Profile
Very well said Angie.

Jenny in Utah
Proud Farmgirl sister #24
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CountryBorn
True Blue Farmgirl

1545 Posts

Mary Jane
New York
USA
1545 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  1:16:08 PM  Show Profile
I second Aunt Jenny.

MJ

There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do. Freya Stark
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City_Chick
True Blue Farmgirl

509 Posts

Christina
Omaha Nebraska
USA
509 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  1:17:17 PM  Show Profile
Angie I agree whole heartedly. I know that there have been political topics the last couple days that I have read and then chosen to not reply or add to. As my personal rule I ususally chose to refrain from discussing those "hot" topics for my own personal sanitiy and spiritual well-being. Whether online or otherwise.

Christina
Farmgirl Sister #195
http://justacitychick.blogspot.com/

Although no one can go back and make a brand new start; anyone can start from now
and make a brand new end.
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  1:29:57 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Hi Angie! *hugs* I understand exactly where you are coming from. I hope your heart recovers soon!

I think that when the conversations stay even-keeled and always keep in mind that we are talking to our _sisters_ then we can talk about a wide variety of topics without rancor. In fact there have been lots of conversations on the forum that could be heavily controversial topics that have been discussed at length- always with respect and love.

I think the moderators have a very difficult task. How to balance over 4,000 personalities, and easily over 100 very active personalities that post regularly? Large groups of people are not known for having perfect harmony, but I think our moderators try to do the best they can to get as close as possible!

I think it is horribly sad when one of our numbers decide to leave as well. I think a lot of the hurt that we feel or might accidentally give to others comes down to misunderstandings!

I think we all strive to be loving and open to each other. I think before we get hurt if a moderator acts to protect the forum, perhaps we should look at the issue from all sides? Perhaps a topic starts out innocently and as the conversation progresses it veers away from the farmgirl spirit? Or perhaps there is something completely behind the scenes that only the moderators know about but we do not?

I think you point out a great point. There _isn't_ any vocal inflections or body language on the forum. I think Carol's Forum Decorum really sums it up quite well: http://www.maryjanesfarm.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22410


Being a farmgirl is a condition of the heart. In this cyber age of long-distance relationships, it�s easy to type words that aren�t as pleasant and thoughtful as they�d be if we were face to face. At The Farmgirl Connection Forum, it is about connection with each other. Users share interests while being friendly and nice to each other. At the Forum, farmgirls support each other, not tear each other down.

"So before you start a topic or reply to a topic, read over your words carefully. Does it exhibit farmgirl spirit? Be careful using generalizations. You are urged to be cautious with hot topics, like politics and religion. Farmgirls are from all walks of life. All are welcome at the Forum. Every posting on the Forum should exhibit good manners. Emily Post writes, "Manners are a sensitive awareness of the feelings of others. If you have that awareness, you have good manners, no matter what fork you use." Remember your manners and be tolerant, kind, gentle, and considerate as you "chat." We invite you to join a different forum if you need to be combative or defensive, argumentative, and yes, even jealous."




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catscharm74
True Blue Farmgirl

4687 Posts

Heather
Texas
USA
4687 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  1:42:46 PM  Show Profile  Send catscharm74 a Yahoo! Message
Hey Angie (((HUGS))), I have been down the same road as you and it does help to vent. I got a crazy email from someone here because I took a personal stance. So be it. I feel comfortable enough here to ask advice on hot topics (reference posting today) and expect a small amount of backlash but I take everything with a grain of salt.

A very wise farmgal emailed me and reminded me that these "mean" gals will eventually fall through the cracks and be gone, by their own choice. Thank you for being brave enough to post this. (((HUGS)))

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

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willowtreecreek
True Blue Farmgirl

4813 Posts

Julie
Russell AR
USA
4813 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  1:48:22 PM  Show Profile
AMEN!

Farmgirl Sister #17
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Marybeth
True Blue Farmgirl

6418 Posts

Mary Beth
Stanwood Wa 98292
USA
6418 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  2:38:53 PM  Show Profile
And AMEN!!

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CabinCreek-Kentucky
True Blue Farmgirl

8529 Posts

Frannie
Green County Kentucky
USA
8529 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  4:38:25 PM  Show Profile
all we need is love .. da-da-da-da-da .. all we need is love ... love .. love .. love is all we need!

angie darlin .. your words:

"I love to hear other's opinions, thoughts, insights on politics, religions, schooling, family matters, etc. Even if those opinions don't agree with my own. How else do we learn? How do we grow? How do we become more tolerant and understanding of others?"


I ADORE!!!

i too, think there are very few topics that can't be spoken of among friends in a loving manner.

and yes, it is wonderful that we live in a country where we can CHOOSE to speak our beliefs .. and we can also CHOOSE to not listen if that is our choice.

during my time here .. there have occasionally been postings that i have read that i have not necessarily agreed with .. and there have even been a handfull of what i 'heard' as Mean-Spirited and Negative. We are all human with human frailities. I look at the 'mean-spirited' and negative as simply someone working through issues in their life.

and sometimes we lash out inappropriately .. but hopefully, in the long run .. we also 'learn' from that experience.

I believe what i learned from A Course in Miracles .. that this type of behaviour is ALWAYS a 'plea for help' .. even if the person does not realize it at the time. i am thankful we have a place to come where we can uplift each other.

We all have different personalities .. some are quiet in their way of telling .. some are exhuberant .. and seem to shout it from the rooftops. I adore everyone's individuality and honor each as valid and genuine. It's simply who we WONDERFULLY are!

i know there are new friends who have joined us who have not felt welcomed .. i felt that way from a couple women when i first joined .. but honey-doos .. i'm nearing the 8,000 postings mark .. sooooo .. i have not let anyone's words keep me from having fun and enjoying the wonderful friends i have made on here! (ha! looking back now .. i can laugh and tell you that a couple women thought i asked 'too many questions'!! oh lordy! isn't that how we LEARN? one thinks i am 'too preachy' .. well .. i can only say that i am a genuinely happy person and try to always look on the bright and up-lifting side of life. (IF we only get to go around once .. and IF we don't get to come back again .. oh how silly to live this life any other way ... (in MY opinion).

another thought i wasn't a 'TRUE farmgirl' .. well .. isn't it a 'condition of the heart'? yep! i wuz born and raised in the 'big city' (and LOVED that experience and am thankful for it) .. my mom and dad, aunts and uncles and some cousins were raised on a farm and as adults moved to the CITY and loved that experience as well ..

i do understand how 'words' can indeed hurt someone and we may lose an 'angel amongst us' by thoughtlessly saying them before we think about our intentions when we write them. if god almighty wrote something we did not agree with .. would we not STOP and think about our response? we are all god's little critters and as such i believe (i repeat .. "I" BELIEVE) that god would ask the same for everyone who comes into our lives. after all .. ALL our 'good books' that we try to live our lives by .. tell us ... "And the Greatest of These is LOVE!"

thanks for lovingly sharing your views and opinions sweet gurlfrenz. thank you for your kindness, compassion, understanding, your strengths ... humor .. your sweet and bitter-sweet stories .. your friendship .. thank you all for coming into my life and blessing it profoundly!

ohhhh ... and did i mention that "i" believe:

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all we need is love ... all we need is love .. LOVE LOVE .. LOVE IS ALL WE NEED!


XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

True Friends * KENTUCKY FRANNIE

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yarnmamma
True Blue Farmgirl

4247 Posts

Linda
Clarks Summit PA
USA
4247 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  4:58:03 PM  Show Profile  Send yarnmamma a Yahoo! Message
Frannie, Well said and right from your heart, like I believe everything you say is.

I have felt a little left out a few times because some women here know each other so well that they "seem" to not acknowelege anyone else, especially an outsider or new person. I need this forum and I also believe I have something to give and share with the women on this forum too...so I swallowed my pride and just kept reading and shared more. I still sometimes feel that way, but not often. That's the truth and I wanted to admit it. I realize that the way to get and keep friends, whether online or not, is to participate and stay in there and spend time listening and sharing.

I can't imagine being without this sisterhood and the support all of you give to me. You have helped me get through holidays more than you realize. I am alone and lonely sometimes but I had the connection here that is priceless.
Linda

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By the Grace of God.
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one_dog_per_acre
True Blue Farmgirl

1572 Posts

Trish
Sandpoint ID
USA
1572 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  5:18:57 PM  Show Profile
Hugs for linda. It's crazy to me that someone would pick at Frannie. I have also felt like an outsider at times. Thank goodness for Alee. She does do a good job of making people feel valuable on here.
PS I love you Angie,for making me so happy when I had a bum swap partner!!
I think that maybe there should be a designated place for political topics, so that we can choose to read them or not. then that way it doesn't have to go in Across the Fence, which is a fave of everyone, and I just can't help but read it :0

Trish
Farmgirl Sister #91
Make cupcakes not war!
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catscharm74
True Blue Farmgirl

4687 Posts

Heather
Texas
USA
4687 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  5:21:54 PM  Show Profile  Send catscharm74 a Yahoo! Message
Or we good have an icon that we could attach to our postings that is like a RED FLAME or Warning sign or something...I try to bring a sense of humor to all my "hot topic" postings, to diffuse the situation. Lord knows I have posted some doozies!!!

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90
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CabinCreek-Kentucky
True Blue Farmgirl

8529 Posts

Frannie
Green County Kentucky
USA
8529 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  5:29:28 PM  Show Profile
god love you sweet linda ... please know that we are all here for you and for all of us that are in need of a hug or support from time to time. i count your friendship as a blessing my friend .. it all comes from YOUR heart .. of being a true friend to others. xoxo

True Friends * KENTUCKY FRANNIE

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Edited by - CabinCreek-Kentucky on Aug 30 2008 5:32:11 PM
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lilwing
True Blue Farmgirl

1403 Posts

Brooke
Fulshear Texas
USA
1403 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  5:43:32 PM  Show Profile  Send lilwing a Yahoo! Message
I don't want others leaving when they are new ..I have always felt welcomed here and it has felt like a loving enviroment and it HAS been ...and I DO feel there were some a little too quick and too harsh on someone else here. I agree a political area for such things might help but I also believe and agree that we should be able to say things and lately, I still haven't seen ANYthing over the line in my opinion. We are all adults here and I am never mad or upset at any opposing political or religious views here. It does boggle me why others can't be the same. It would be ONE thing if there were outright offending remarks made in a childish manner, but there hasn't been. Now I feel as if there are some on pins and needles and that isn't fair!


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oldfashioned girl
True Blue Farmgirl

2391 Posts

monica
oatman az
USA
2391 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  6:08:25 PM  Show Profile
I just love you all so much!!!

Monica
Farmgirls Rule!

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mommom
True Blue Farmgirl

854 Posts

Susan
Lancaster Pennsylvania
USA
854 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  6:25:55 PM  Show Profile
Me too!!!!!! Susan
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levisgrammy
True Blue Farmgirl

9325 Posts

Denise
Beavercreek Ohio
USA
9325 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  6:29:19 PM  Show Profile
Farmgirl spirit, that's what it's all about.

Linda,
I know what you are saying because in the beginning it seemed very difficult and I felt "left out" but I have found there are plenty here who will try and make a girl feel welcome and strike up a friendship. Just being patient helped me. I thought about the way I felt and I realized that maybe the ones I felt were ignoring me because they knew each other so well probably didn't realize that was how I viewed it when no one would respond to something I had posted. I felt like it wasn't important enough for anyone to comment on. However, I came to realize that the longer I have been here the more opportunity others have had to get to know me. Not everyone will be kindred spirits with everyone else and that's ok because there will be those who I connect better with. I had to face the fact that if I met everyone one here in person there would be those I clicked with and those I didn't.

I think it is wonderful when conversations can be uplifting an encouraging. This life is difficult and we need one another to give us a boost sometimes to keep us going even if we don't agree on everything.

I am so grateful for women like Alee and Frannie and all the others who try to keep us going in the direction of farmgirls helping and loving one another.


Denise
farmgirl sister #43

"Take a lesson from the teakettle, though up to its
neck in hot water...it sings!"

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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  7:06:02 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Aww! Thanks Denise! You are so sweet! *hugs*

Alee
Farmgirl Sister #8
www.awarmheart.com
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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  7:09:24 PM  Show Profile
I got a pm today too saying that some comments I had made in a topic made a person decide to leave. I would never intentionally offend anyone or try to hurt them. I was trying to point someone in the right direction and it didn't come across as friendly or in the Farmgirl spirit. For that I am truly sorry.

My personal feeling is that we are all like sisters here. We talk to each as though we were sitting around the kitchen table together having a discussion. Sometimes we can agree and sometimes we can't. However, we still love each other and value each other's opinions even if they are different from ours.

I too am grateful for the women on there who keep us "on track" and going in the right direction.




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levisgrammy
True Blue Farmgirl

9325 Posts

Denise
Beavercreek Ohio
USA
9325 Posts

Posted - Aug 30 2008 :  7:18:53 PM  Show Profile
Kay,
I'm so sorry to hear this. I can't imagine you saying anything offensive. I guess it is all in our individual perception of things. Everyone perceives things in such different ways. It is hard to know what will offend someone.

Denise
farmgirl sister #43

"Take a lesson from the teakettle, though up to its
neck in hot water...it sings!"

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CabinCreek-Kentucky
True Blue Farmgirl

8529 Posts

Frannie
Green County Kentucky
USA
8529 Posts

Posted - Aug 31 2008 :  03:05:30 AM  Show Profile
gurlfrenz ... i think mayhaps 'cyber-friendship' is much like 'in-person-friendship' .. only 'more-so'. (oh .. and gurlfrenz .. i know i tell a lotta' personal stories in threads .. but that is how i relate to our postings .. AND when you tell your stories .. it is how i get to know you.

sometimes, someone will say something that will get my memory 'reel' flippin' back to a time in my life when perhaps i felt the same way .. or my mind racing down a road towards a thought i would love to share) .. sooooo .. here's the 'story of it' (that's a term used by my favorite author 'janice holt giles' from kentucky .. when she would relate a story being told in one of her books) .. OHH! SEE! i jus' did it! my mind took a little side-path there!

anyhoo ... we do indeed come to new groups sometimes with a little trepidation .. sometimes with a kind of shyness (and this is from 'ripley's believe it or not': i am (or was) PAINFULLY SHY as a young child .. and into my teen and early adult years .. actually .. deeeeeeeeeep in my genes .. there is still built a 'quiet desperation' at times when i walk into a room (be it actual or via the computer) full of new people. i think because of this profound shyness early on ... i missed out on probably some wonderful friendshps .. and it just felt 'lonely' at times. i can absolutey and distinctly remember the very moment when i promised myself that i would conquer this fear .. and my 'sparkly, twinkly' side emerged ... despite the butterflies zipping through my veins! (oh lordy! i do 'wax poetic' at times i know!) WELL .. i just started entering rooms with a biggest smile i cold muster on my face .. and twirled and whirled and introduced myself to everyone i met! and oh my! what a difference a brave smile made! (and ohhhhhhhhh yesssssssss .. i have indeed encountered a few people on this path in life who were immediately turned off by my newfound exhuberant JOY!) .. at first, it stung .. and i'd try and try to be nice and 'win' their friendship. (yep! i've done that right here in the farmyard too with a few women) .. and in life, i finally realized .. .like ya'll are sayin' above .. NOT everyone in this lifetime is gonna' love us .. or even like us .. and that is O.K. too!! just DO NOT ever lower your standards and become mean-spirited towards them! some i did indeed become friends with despite the fact that i was a little 'unusual' in their belief-system. .. others i did not ever become friends with .. but ya' know .. i just finally came to figure that .. as long as i had not been mean-spirited to them .. THAT was THEIR problem to own. and oh my .. i cannot tell you how many gurlfrenz that once i got to know them .. i would relate my story of shyness and how i overcame it .. and some would share with me that they, too, had felt much the same way ... but usually, they just walked away when no one seemed to want to truly get to know them.

ohhhhhhh .. that memory wheel just zipped backwards again: when i was the 'momma' of our dolly club in maryland .. EVERY time a new friend would join us .. i always assiged a BIG SISTER to them .. to hang with them for the evening .. to make sure that they got introduced and included .. so that they would feel WELCOME .. and it worked BEAUTIFULLY! (wouldn't that be a lovely thing to all jus' automatically do when someone introduces themselves in our WELCOME WAGON thread! and dear ones on here do go and say howdy .. but we must stick with them and not leave them after that first hello. (oh lordy .. here comes another story!) i have an older daughter who has had a VERY tough and sometimes painfully sad life .. most of which was due to poor choices she made. i remember when a lovely group of women from a religious group took her into their hearts .. and she converted .. and even though this group was a little foreign to me .. i was thankful that she had found good-hearted friends who believed in LOVE. i had never seen Kristen truly happier since she was a young child. i was thrilled at her baptism .. she even asked me to be a special part of it by sharing her adoption story and how she had been loved by a stranger ... (she wanted me to tell them of "our" poem: "not heart of my heart .. nor flesh of my bone .. but still .. miraculously .. my own. never forget for a single minute .. you didn't grow under my heart .. but more deeply in it".

well .. these women kinda' started courting ME for conversion. i sweetly told them that i was very happy in my own beliefs and would never convert .. then i asked them to PLEASE take all the time and energy they had to give to me and give it to Kristen .. for i KNOW my daughter .. and i promised them that if they left her too soon in her new beliefs and church .. she would not stay .. she would indeed stray.

well, as life sometimes turns out .. they did not have the time to give to her at that point .. and she only went to church twice after that. i have shared this with a couple dear friends of this faith that i have met since then and they told me they were sorry that happened. HOWEVER .. Kristen returned to her bad habits and many more years of sadness. (i thank god that i do believe she has finally found a peace in this life .. but she will forever ache because of the pain she has caused those who love her .. most especially her children). well .. i don't believe our not 'staying near' our new friends will have such sad ramifications .. but i do believe that we are all put on this earth to be 'angels unawares' in the lives that come across our path. AND yes .. some will come and go .. some will not like or understand us .. and some will STAY FOREVER in our hearts. Let's all reach out to every new member and silently choose to 'stick with them' .. be watchful for their posts .. respond enthusiastically and kindly to them .. e-mail them to let them know we miss them if they seem to disappear .. be a 'true friend' to them.

True Friends * KENTUCKY FRANNIE

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Txfarmgal
True Blue Farmgirl

585 Posts

AK

USA
585 Posts

Posted - Aug 31 2008 :  12:59:06 PM  Show Profile
Angie, I agree with you. I read this and thought about what I would say. I typically do not talk politics at all because it is such a heated topic, however it should be said when people talk about their opinions it is just that- their opinions and should not affect me at all. With that said people do get their feelings hurt. I would think that as an adult and as other farmgirl adults who share so many things together that as sisters we should know that we don't all have to like the same things or agree on things and can still be friends. If you are not being harmed in any way physically then you should be able to have your own opinions. For the religion topic again what people think does not affect me or how I feel about it. I have been on the internet since 1994 and have learned so many things and use to get my feelings hurt and I let it ride off my back now because as you said or someone said we don't know how they were feeling or their body language or voice inflection. Some of us have alot in common, some little, some not as much but at least with our farmgirl spirit we share we should be able to get along.

AngiKay-farmgirl sister #301
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Betty J.
True Blue Farmgirl

1403 Posts

Betty
Pasco WA
USA
1403 Posts

Posted - Aug 31 2008 :  1:39:38 PM  Show Profile
Long time ago when I was young, folks that didn't agree with me "hurt my feelings." I've discovered in my "advanced" age that when someone doesn't agree that it can be a life changing experience. Not agreeing gives a whole new perspective to a topic and makes me think that maybe I'm not always right, even if I think I am. It has helped me grow and change my mind--especially with politics, but I'm still a Democrat and that's how it goes.

Thanks for listening and thanks for giving me your opinion on the way things are in your part of the world.

Betty in Pasco
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aimeeravae
True Blue Farmgirl

341 Posts

Aimee
Deer River MN
USA
341 Posts

Posted - Sep 02 2008 :  08:35:12 AM  Show Profile
Okay, I have been gone for a few days and I come back...WHAT is all this?

We have been nothing but sisters to each other on any post I have read. Heated debate is natural between sisters and should be welcome. It is just as rude and hurtful to, "rather pointedly" tell people how they hurt your feelings. It is usually not intentional.

Alee is right(she is the salt of the earth, you know). There are 4000 voices here, 100 of them are all talking at once. I don't know if you are christian, jew, pagan, wiccan or har krishna. You must take everything with a grain of salt.

I have, since early adulthood, spoke my mind. I will tell you exactly what I think. Part of being an adult is freewill. If you don't like my opinion, you have three choices.

Ignore it. It probably isn't meant for you anyway. I mean no offense to you.

Change it. I am an adult, I also have freewill. I can change my mind. Tell me why I should,I do need a reason. I love being a girl for this very reason.

Learn from it. (some may think me the B-word for this one)I have learned in my 31 years of life, usually the ones that take offense are the ones who need to hear it the most. Why did it hurt your feelings? What about a comment (from someone you could not even pick out of a crowded room) was so terrible, you couldn't handle it? Maybe because it hit to close to the bone?

Someone great once said..."put on your big girl panties and deal with it."

I had left because someone hurt my feelings. But, I would NEVER hurt them back. I ask the advice of the fabulous Aunt Jenny. I left and let begones be. When I returned, she was gone.
I have the fellowship of like minded ladies back. And I am happy. I hope if I ever offend, ask for the context of the comment. Call me and we can have the chat over coffee. But please, don't make someone feel as if they have to leave. Lets handle the situation as adults.

Aimee





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Edited by - aimeeravae on Sep 02 2008 09:19:02 AM
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