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LindaEllen
True Blue Farmgirl

275 Posts

Linda
Missouri
USA
275 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2008 :  06:37:34 AM  Show Profile
Wildcrafter, Only 5 or 6 min, OK, I'm gettim me a Kitchen Aid . But if I see a cheapy at a garage sell I'll pick up. I will just be doing small batches tell I have this soap making under my belt , before the big batches.

My wand stick was getting hot and thought , she's go'na blow, that mixture was just to thick for the ol wand. Can you over mix? I think I might have cuz my soap sure got to a cutting stage over night. The mold box it was in got warm, covered it up for that Sopon---- (sp) thing it goes through. It cut up nicely the next morning. My DH thought I had something good to eat for Sunday morning breakfast as it layed out on our dining room table for a photo shoot .



Linda
Farmgirl Sister #343

Locust Trail Homestead
http://www.homesteadblogger.com/walkabout/
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Wildcrafter
True Blue Farmgirl

340 Posts

Suzanne
Seattle WA
USA
340 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2008 :  06:42:58 AM  Show Profile
Saponification...when the lye molecules and the fat molecules latch on to each other and form long chains....which ends up being soap when all the molecules are latched up!

I make 10 pound batches. Not overly big, but bigger than what most people do when they are hobby soaping. If you overmix, it just gets reeeeeeally thick and hard to pour or do swirls. I don't worry about covering my CP soap anymore. I just put the molds out in my shop and they usually end up gelling on their own. And if they don't gel, no biggie. I make 90% of my soap hot process and that is super gelled in the oven.

Poor hubby...wanted a treat!

Roses are red, Violets are blue; But they don't get around Like the dandelions do.
Slim Acres
www.goodnaturedearthling.com

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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Sep 25 2008 :  08:13:05 AM  Show Profile
Linda - I have an Oster stick blender that I've had for 2 years. But when this one is done I will be getting a Kitchen Aid. I usually use it for about 1 minute, then stir the soap with the blender turned off, then turn it on for 1 minute, etc. This helps to keep the blender from overheating. Some people like to stir their soap until thick trace. I stir until mine begins to look like runny pudding then add any additives and scent.

Handmade Soap and More! - http://therusticcottage.etsy.com
The Rustic Cottage Blog http://therusticcottage.blogspot.com

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EnchantedWoodsGirl
True Blue Farmgirl

959 Posts

Kathy
New Jersey
USA
959 Posts

Posted - Sep 29 2008 :  8:16:34 PM  Show Profile
I think I may try my hand at soap making. My husband found in the trash a big old white enamel roasting pan that looks like it would be perfect for a batch of soap to make soap loaves - what do you think?

Does anyone make a pumpkin soap with real canned pure pumpkin and cinnamon and cloves - grubby and stains washcloths but is yummy! I bought some a year ago on Ebay and now can't find it again. I was disappointed with one I bought this year - if you do let me know and direct me to your site for some please.

What is the most important tips you can give for making soap?

Kathy of the Enchanted Wood
Farmgirl Sister #59
http://enchantedwoodmusings.blogspot.com/

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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Sep 29 2008 :  10:46:30 PM  Show Profile
Kathy - you should try making soap. It is so much fun!! The enamel roasting pan will work as long as it doesn't have any chips in the enamel. If it does then it will react with the lye. I would recommend getting a stainless steel stockpot - maybe 8 or 12 qt - the high sides will keep you from having splashes.

I have heard of people making soap with pumpkin but I've not tried it. Pumpkin is great for the skin as it has lots of natural enzymes which help to remove dead skin cells.

The most important tip is safety!! Read, read, read and become familiar with the soapmaking steps. Get an easy, small recipe to try and just go for it! You'll love it. Can you tell I get excited when I talk about soap??

Handmade Soap and More! - http://therusticcottage.etsy.com
The Rustic Cottage Blog http://therusticcottage.blogspot.com

PROUD FARMGIRL SISTER #100

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naturemaiden
True Blue Farmgirl

2569 Posts

Connie - Farmgirl #673
Hoosick Falls NY
USA
2569 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  02:51:49 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Wildcrafter

I stick blend for 5 or 6 minutes tops. That's all the soap needs to be blended. Then add the herbs/EOs/colors. I only use natural ingredients and don't use fragrance oils or synthetic colors. If you use a inexpensive stick blender, it gets hot. I have a Kitchen Aid stick blender and it just keeps on going batch after batch. But, if you're only doing a small batch every once in a while, the inexpensive one is fine.

About the lye, I get mine from Tarr, LLC in Auburn WA. They only sell it in 50 pound bags. It's a good price if you can use that much. I go through many bags a year. I make a lot of soap.

Roses are red, Violets are blue; But they don't get around Like the dandelions do.
Slim Acres
www.goodnaturedearthling.com

Good morning,
Just wondered, when you say you stick blend for about5 minutes or so, you mean even if the soap does not come to trace? I usually blend until my soap comes to trace. But I find that I can take nearly 6-7 minutes break in between mixing.
What kind of soap do you make?
Connie

http://flowerchild-lifeinthegarden.blogspot.com/
Also visit my online store @ www.NatureMaiden.com -Handcrafted Bath & Body Products, including soaps, salves, salts, lip balms, lotion bars, and much more!
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naturemaiden
True Blue Farmgirl

2569 Posts

Connie - Farmgirl #673
Hoosick Falls NY
USA
2569 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  03:04:40 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by LindaEllen

Connie, thanks for all those links, I will check them out. Plus I will be picking up another eletric wand and do as you suggest.

Have a great time with your fall booth, that is going to be great fun. Its gotta be fun making up all those new varieties of soap

We are going to a fall primative festival next month, they will have soap making as one of their featured events. Probably rendering the fats outside in a big iron pot. It will be fun and interesting.

thanks again


Linda
Farmgirl Sister #343

Locust Trail Homestead
http://www.homesteadblogger.com/walkabout/


Linda-
Almost forgot! I have searched high & low for soap molds before making soap. Some wooden molds are SO expensive. I am giving you the email of a wonderful woman who sells 5 lb molds(lids included) for 15.00 each! With 1 batch of soap, I get 17 -1" bars out of it. Her name is Carolyn, and her email is: pebblecreekprims@tds.net -She is on Etsy as well, but not currently selling anything. http://www.etsy.com/profile.php?user_id=5561978

I have purchased a total of 10- 5 lb molds from her. She ships fast, is very nice, and when I bought 3 I got 1 free! If you are interested in wooden loaf soap molds, I'd buy from her -because with all my research, I have NEVER found a better deal. You can email her, tell her I sent ya and see if she has any available.
Connie

http://flowerchild-lifeinthegarden.blogspot.com/
Also visit my online store @ www.NatureMaiden.com -Handcrafted Bath & Body Products, including soaps, salves, salts, lip balms, lotion bars, and much more!
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LindaEllen
True Blue Farmgirl

275 Posts

Linda
Missouri
USA
275 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  06:46:20 AM  Show Profile
Thank You Connie, what a deal. I'll have to get in touch with her cuz I got the soap craze somethin good!

I can't wait to try all the fruits and veggies some of you put in your soaps, like the post above using pumpkin and those of you that use cucumber in your soaps. It got to be so much fun coming up with different scents.

On a side note:
Sometimes I get soap and soup mixed up, when reading and typing, its ok I like em both. Does anyone else have that happen?

We are getting that wonderful fall chill this week , hot cocoa time

Thanks all for the great tips and links.

Happy soup/soap stirring

Linda
Farmgirl Sister #343

Locust Trail Homestead
http://www.homesteadblogger.com/walkabout/
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EnchantedWoodsGirl
True Blue Farmgirl

959 Posts

Kathy
New Jersey
USA
959 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  08:40:04 AM  Show Profile
For using as a mold, could I use the big low roasting pan made of enamel - there are just two tiny chips out of the corner, don't think it would hurt the soap much.
What are the stick blenders you are talking about?

Kathy of the Enchanted Wood
Farmgirl Sister #59
http://enchantedwoodmusings.blogspot.com/

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Suzan
True Blue Farmgirl

659 Posts

suzanne
duncannon pa
USA
659 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  09:09:53 AM  Show Profile
I'm really enjoying this thread, have been following all info on MJF about soapmaking. My sister and a friend and I are planning this as an "after Christmas" weekend, none of us have ever made soap before. I've been reading all I can get my hands on, but learning the most from informal chats with you girls. Thanks!
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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  11:20:14 AM  Show Profile
Stick blenders are like a mixer. Here's a link to a picture of one.

http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CSB-77-Blender-Chopper-Attachments/dp/B0006G3JRO

I don't run my stick blender until the soap traces as I don't want to burn out the motor. I blend for a minute or so then turn it off and stir with the blender for a bit. I keep doing this until the soap traces.

Thanks so much for the info on the soap molds! $15 is a great price. You could use the roasting pan. You want to line your molds with freezer paper (at least that's what I do) with the shiny side out. Then when the soap has been sitting for 24 hours you can pull it out of the mold, peel off the paper, and cut. I just tried using a Pringle's can as a soap mold and it worked great. No lining was needed and when the soap was done I snipped the edge of the can and peeled it off the soap. Kind of like peeling open the tubes that biscuits come in. Perfectly round soap. The can held about 2 lbs.

Handmade Soap and More! - http://therusticcottage.etsy.com
The Rustic Cottage Blog http://therusticcottage.blogspot.com

PROUD FARMGIRL SISTER #100

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Wildcrafter
True Blue Farmgirl

340 Posts

Suzanne
Seattle WA
USA
340 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2008 :  11:47:36 AM  Show Profile
[/quote] Good morning,
Just wondered, when you say you stick blend for about5 minutes or so, you mean even if the soap does not come to trace? I usually blend until my soap comes to trace. But I find that I can take nearly 6-7 minutes break in between mixing.
What kind of soap do you make?
Connie
[/quote]


I stick blend continuously for 5-6 minutes. I never let it sit and break up the blending. Personally, I don't see the sense in it. The blending or stirring is what starts the saponification process. Why start and stop the process over and over? I make a ton of soap and don't have the time to wait anyways. I stick blend and "git r' done!" I make both HP and CP soap. You can look on my website and see what I do. www.goodnaturedearthling.com

PS....the cheaper stick blenders get hot, but my Kitchen Aid does not.



Roses are red, Violets are blue; But they don't get around Like the dandelions do.
Slim Acres
www.goodnaturedearthling.com

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poverty girl
True Blue Farmgirl

51 Posts

Kristin
Fremont Ut
USA
51 Posts

Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  08:13:47 AM  Show Profile
Connie,
Just visited your site; Wonderful!! I sent my information for a wholesale account, I own a small store in Utah. Would love to feature your products!

Kristin
Farmgirl Sister #334

"There ain't no time for looking pretty when you've gotta slop the pigs."--Haddy Rennet
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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  09:58:46 AM  Show Profile
I prefer to start and stop so that I don't burn out the motor on my stick blender and also to check for false trace. My soap traces within 5 to 10 minutes. But I only stop long enough to stir the soap around to check for trace - maybe 10 seconds or so.

Handmade Soap and More! - http://therusticcottage.etsy.com
The Rustic Cottage Blog http://therusticcottage.blogspot.com

PROUD FARMGIRL SISTER #100

Edited by - therusticcottage on Oct 01 2008 10:04:02 AM
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naturemaiden
True Blue Farmgirl

2569 Posts

Connie - Farmgirl #673
Hoosick Falls NY
USA
2569 Posts

Posted - Oct 01 2008 :  10:04:33 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by poverty girl

Connie,
Just visited your site; Wonderful!! I sent my information for a wholesale account, I own a small store in Utah. Would love to feature your products!

Kristin
Farmgirl Sister #334

"There ain't no time for looking pretty when you've gotta slop the pigs."--Haddy Rennet

Hi Kristen,

Thanks, I just sent you an email.

http://flowerchild-lifeinthegarden.blogspot.com/
Also visit my online store @ www.NatureMaiden.com -Handcrafted Bath & Body Products, including soaps, salves, salts, lip balms, lotion bars, and much more!
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lorijarrett
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Lori
Norfolk NY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Nov 23 2008 :  06:42:57 AM  Show Profile  Send lorijarrett a Yahoo! Message
Hey everyone, I am considering making soap. I see a lot of postings and will keep watching for hints and tricks but is there a good starting point either a website or book that I should look at? Also is there a nice basic recipe out there for beginners? I am going to try to research but am also cooking and cleaning today along with making ornaments and entertaining my wonderful SIL who is coming over for a nice visit! You guys are great and I just look forward everyday coming to this forum and reading posts while sipping my cup 'o joe! Take care.
Lori


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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Nov 23 2008 :  07:20:39 AM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
Check out this website. It is one of the best for a starting place.
http://www.millersoap.com/

Alee
Farmgirl Sister #8
www.awarmheart.com
Please come visit Nora and me on our blog: www.farmgirlalee.blogspot.com
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lorijarrett
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Lori
Norfolk NY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Nov 23 2008 :  09:08:49 AM  Show Profile  Send lorijarrett a Yahoo! Message
TY Alee, will check that out!

quote:
Originally posted by Alee

Check out this website. It is one of the best for a starting place.
http://www.millersoap.com/

Alee
Farmgirl Sister #8
www.awarmheart.com
Please come visit Nora and me on our blog: www.farmgirlalee.blogspot.com
Put your pin on the farmgirl map! www.farmgirlmap.blogspot.com




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Wildcrafter
True Blue Farmgirl

340 Posts

Suzanne
Seattle WA
USA
340 Posts

Posted - Nov 23 2008 :  09:22:31 AM  Show Profile
I'm teaching a soapmaking workshop in February. Both hot and cold process soap. If anyone lives in the area and wants to learn, let me know. www.goodnaturedearthling.com

Roses are red, Violets are blue; But they don't get around Like the dandelions do.
Slim Acres
www.goodnaturedearthling.com
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lorijarrett
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Lori
Norfolk NY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Nov 23 2008 :  09:58:01 AM  Show Profile  Send lorijarrett a Yahoo! Message
I wish! It would be a bit of a travel for me. LOL It does remind me though of looking to see if anyone around here teaches soapmaking. Hope you have a great day!


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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Nov 23 2008 :  11:35:41 PM  Show Profile
http://www.teachsoap.com

That's a good one too.

I've been trying to think of a way to do an online class. Just haven't come up with a good idea yet. You can also check out YouTube. There are lots of soapmaking videos on there. Just put in cold process soapmaking.



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lorijarrett
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Lori
Norfolk NY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Nov 24 2008 :  06:28:23 AM  Show Profile  Send lorijarrett a Yahoo! Message
Thanks again for all the resources. We have a soap "factory" not to far from here that employs women who are disadvantaged or trying to get out of domestic situations and need to support themselves while learning a skill, least that is how they got started. I am going to make a trip there to see what they have for soap to give for christmas then get learning to make my own. The business is Sunfeather Soaps. I dont' know if anyone has heard about it before but they are great. Here's the link in case anyone want's to take a peak.
www.sunfeather.com
I know there are a lot of talented soapmakers here, I would love to barter for soap if anyone is interested. I do a lot of handpainted country type stuff, have some crocheted wash clothes, etc. Just email me if interested. Will get some pictures posted soon, just in case!
Lori


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lorijarrett
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Lori
Norfolk NY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Nov 24 2008 :  08:37:50 AM  Show Profile  Send lorijarrett a Yahoo! Message
Below is my Blog and a few pictures of what I do are on there if anyone was interested in my previous post of bartering for soap. Thanks!
Lori

http://farmgirlinthemaking.blogspot.com/


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therusticcottage
True Blue Farmgirl

4439 Posts

Kay
Vancouver WA
USA
4439 Posts

Posted - Nov 24 2008 :  10:45:20 AM  Show Profile
Lori - I think that Sunfeather is owned by Sandy Maine! She is very well known in the soaping community. I have several of her books. Everything that she teaches is all natural ingredients and organic. Is there a possibility that you would be able to work there?? You could learn soapmaking from one of the best!



Handmade Soap and More! http://therusticcottage.etsy.com

The Rustic Cottage Blog http://therusticcottage.blogspot.com

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lorijarrett
True Blue Farmgirl

112 Posts

Lori
Norfolk NY
USA
112 Posts

Posted - Nov 24 2008 :  10:58:56 AM  Show Profile  Send lorijarrett a Yahoo! Message
That's a good idea! It would be a bit of a drive for me though. I think it's like 45 minutes from here. Normally it would be fine but the winters up here are brutal and most of that travel would be through winding hills to get there. Something to look at though, I will start at her website. Thanks for the suggestion!

www.farmgirlinthemaking.blogspot.com

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