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a rose
True Blue Farmgirl

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Linda
Waterford NY
USA
443 Posts

Posted - Mar 04 2008 :  3:54:55 PM  Show Profile
Jess, It sounds like the little guy is autistic. Mom needs a wake up call. The longer she doesn't deal with this the harder it's going to be for him. There is help out there. It's going to be hell for the little guy when he starts school.

Remember me as a rose.
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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 04 2008 :  4:37:25 PM  Show Profile
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! Linda hit the nail on the head!

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nashbabe
True Blue Farmgirl

687 Posts



687 Posts

Posted - Mar 04 2008 :  8:14:11 PM  Show Profile
I was thinking that, but didn't want to say it. If Linda said it, I'll say it too (I'm such a chicken).

Crunchy crafty goodness and psychoses...;-)http://nashbabe.blogspot.com

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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  12:07:50 AM  Show Profile
I have tried to talk to her but she insists that he is the most normal child on the planet and that I have no idea what I am talking about. I have a feeling I am not the first one to tell her what I think. He has been mysteriously pulled out of daycare a few times, from daycares that they supposedly "just loved." So who knows. He is supposed to start preschool in the fall, but now she is talking about not sending him. So who knows.

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nashbabe
True Blue Farmgirl

687 Posts



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Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  03:50:41 AM  Show Profile
I know someone whose sister has a dyslexic child. Well, presumably that's it, she won't be inclined to do anything. Let's pretend the kid is just fine. She actually used to do his homework for him so he could be on honor roll. Pathetic. Well, now that he's sixteen he has basically quit school and can't read. The sad thing is, I am quite familiar with interventions for dyslexia and the kid is obviously quite smart and could have done them well. There is a university center for the treatment of dyslexia right in their town. Instead the kid's a dropout. this kind of stuff burns my cookies.

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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  05:34:44 AM  Show Profile
yep it is hard to watch a person disregard another for their own benefit or gain of not having a kid with "issues".

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suzyhomemaker
True Blue Farmgirl

806 Posts

Clare
Tyler Hill PA
USA
806 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  06:50:52 AM  Show Profile
Oh, Jess, I can't believe your kindness, how it extends from you and your home to others around you. Good luck with the mom. The best advice I can give is to recommend testing "just to see" what his learning style is to help her be a better parent. I know this has been a good way to help a friend of mine who was desperate to lean how to manage her child. I also know another mom who tried for over five years before she got her son diagnosed with Asperger. he was kicked out of three different kindergartens. He is now is second or third grade beofre getting teh right medication and helping the mom with coping and teaching strategies. Keep talking. Sooner or later it will sink in that there is something not going well.

My daughter is dyslexic and it can be very frustrating for both child and parents. I was fortunate to go for private testing and got a program the third time around that worked for her. Some schools try NOT to test children and just let them go through the system and fail often. I see it here in the country as they don't want to pay the money for extra help for these kids. No matter what the child's situation, it is so important to find out earlier rather than later. My SIL is just now going to have her son tested for dyslexia, and he is n 7th grade. Hello?? What did you wait so long? her excuse was "I needed Timmy to admit he needed help." What the heck is that? She has wasted all these school years and really broke down on his self esteem. I wanted to scream "Aren't you the parent? You are suppose to make decisions to help your child." SO please encourage this mom to get testing, even if it is through the state, for this little boy.

Ok, just wanted to say I am working on my western minis. I have a great small star pattern on cool turqoise fabric. I bought shrinky dink film on ly to find out it is BLACK> No, I had no idea it came in colors soI am screwed on making charms for the little aprons unless I get somewhere this week or weekend to check out for more. I really have to get my brain checked. Anyone know what type of pen or ink might show up on black? I would be willing to try anything, even if I just trace a boot or write "Yee Haw".

Country girl in NE PA
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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  07:06:42 AM  Show Profile
oh on black you can use lighter colored pencils, white yellow etc..just give it a try it will be great clare.

And yes all I can do is make suggestions to her but she refuses...even when it is blatantly obvious. I have watched him everyday since July 12th. I have read atleast 50 books and pamphlets and countless websites adn chat boards. I have rearranged a lot of my house and the way we operate to accomodate him but the reality is that he leaves here everyday and then has to come back and I do have more responsibility than just him. I have tried I will keep throwing in my 2 cents, but it seems worthless. I even have several friends who are early childhood development specialists, and 3 have observed him for short periods of time and suggested to me without my requesting it that perhaps he has some sensory disorders that need to be addressed. It is so frustrating. I made one small success with her..he could not run or jump or climb and was falling down all the time. I kept telling her it was not right and he had some thing that needed to be addressed. Finally one day last summer we were all out playing in the sprinkler and the ground had become saturated and muddy, as the kids were walking around making muddy footprints I noticed his foot was sooooo flat and his ankles touched in a weird way when he stood. So I poited this out about 50 times and suggested repeatedly that this may be why he cannot walk without falling, run, jump, climb, go up steps, etc..... Well, I guess they were out somewhere and a Podiatrist came up and said that he had been watching her son and perhaps they should go see an orthopoedist(sp?)...and she did and he just 2 weeks ago had to get these braces for his feet. So now her excuse for his behavior is that he is getting used to the braces. Argh! Whatever! I really wish she would just quit her job and stay home with her kids especially since she is about to have #2. But she and her husband have never combined their finances since they got married and they always go 50/50 on everything, so she does not think she should quit her job because it would be unfair to her husband that he would have to pay 100% of the bills. So instead, their child is losing out. I do the best I can with him, but I think it is my kids who are really losing out as I have to spend so much preventative maintenance with him that they get the shaft all the time. All for a kid whose mom refuses to believe her child might need a little extra help. Ok...sorry...I have been keeping all of that to myself for so long I had to get it out there.

keep on mini-ing girls!

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nashbabe
True Blue Farmgirl

687 Posts



687 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  07:22:10 AM  Show Profile
I don't have the option of public school because I'm not the mom. The bio mom does nothing. So we have spent enough to buy another house on private schools. Only choice. She doesn't even know how to get to the school. Maybe bio moms don't want to admit that their kid has a problem, because they think it would keep them from looking perfect or something. Seventh grade is really late to be working on dyslexia, but if the kid hasn't given up, it isn't too late. Okay, off my complaining jog...can't talk at all because of this crud I have so typing isn't bad now and again between long restless naps... *L*

Jess, maybe there's some resource out there like a video or DVD of a TV show about this or whatever. I know denial is a powerful thing, but I'll pray she wakes up, and quickly.

I'm not saying that telling her she needs to find a different care solution would be the best idea, but it does make one wonder.

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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  07:45:52 AM  Show Profile
I am trying to stick it out with her until she has her baby in early June, then he can go home to mama and they can work things out from there. If I can just have the patience to wait until June! I dont know what would work with her. I have had stacks of books sitting around all year trying to atleast make his time here better. She just looks att hem and then insinuates that I thik one of my children has some problem. My kids have their own share of difficulties, but nothing like some people are up against. We have basic issues at my house. Keep your hands to yourself..even if you are angry. Dont lash out because someone knocked over your castle. Scissors cut paper only. dont draw in library books. You know easy stuff. But this is a big one. I only hope that I dont go on a screaming tyrade one of these days when she refuses yet another large example of why her child may need help. at well baby checks they even do the autism tests...apparently at her appts she tells them not to do it because she knows her son is perfect.

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nashbabe
True Blue Farmgirl

687 Posts



687 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  08:55:56 AM  Show Profile
Sounds really familiar...but since this is a google searchable board, I won't get into it here. Back to bed with this sickie chickie

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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  09:30:52 AM  Show Profile
SWEET DREAMS NASH!

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suzyhomemaker
True Blue Farmgirl

806 Posts

Clare
Tyler Hill PA
USA
806 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  09:34:57 AM  Show Profile
Jess, I can't believe how dedicated you are to making a difference in this boy's life. Your effort is being rewarded with him. I just know it makes a difference i nhis life. Already he has gotten the leg braces her needs. Yup, it may be baby steps, but I know it is working a bit. I don't think this mom will ever openly acknowledge her child's challenges until she spends more time with him. I hope while he is home with her after the new baby is born that she is forced to see his behavior for being odd and wonder why. I can't beleive the doctor's office has let her make the decision of not testing. Obviously, they don't see enough of him yet. Jess, if it becomes too much for you and your family, feel free that you can stop this responsibility of taking care of him. Sometimes, you just have to step back and let go and take care of your household.

I am going to try colored pencils o nthe black shrinky dinks as I don't know if or when I could get out to look for others. Thanks for the tips. I had no idea what to use on it. I'll keep you posted on progress, but it will wait unti lthis wekend. I am sewing right now.


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Bonne
True Blue Farmgirl

3003 Posts

Bonne
Littleton CO
USA
3003 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  11:57:17 AM  Show Profile
hmmmm...the ax will fall when she trys enrolling him in schools. You're doing your best in the situation, but really, if the parents won't listen, you are like a concerned divorced parent that has no parental rights. You'd have to notify social services of child neglect (neglecting his obvious issues), don't you think? Then you'd be the bad guy in the family for trying to do the "right" thing, and have to deal with her animosity towards you over it all. **sigh** Poor child because of the parents....lucky child to having such a caring auntie.

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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  12:00:29 PM  Show Profile
well you know my kids think we need to feed him lizard tails and eye of newt and scales from a red dragon and blood of a unicorn to fix him. I think i will just keep mention things and pointing out scenarios, and i will be patient. June is just around the corner, right?!!!!

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Bonne
True Blue Farmgirl

3003 Posts

Bonne
Littleton CO
USA
3003 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  12:09:20 PM  Show Profile
Wait 'til you see the book I just sent Lexi ~ MMMwwwwaagghhhh!!

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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  12:25:16 PM  Show Profile
oh jeez...what are you sending her? she really has a gift, so I am hopeful that i am never on her ultra bad side. I am sure she will love it since my kids are certainly fond of all those who have adopted them and send them fun pkgs in the mail.

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Kathie
True Blue Farmgirl

2436 Posts

Kathie
Thonotosassa Florida
USA
2436 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  6:29:41 PM  Show Profile
Well the REALLY bad thing for him is that everything he does will only become more difficult for him as he gets older.. As long as she insists that there is nothing wrong with him..
Each grade will be tougher for him.. & each thing he tries to accompolish at school.. each task will only become more & more difficult for him as he grows because he isn't going to be in an environment that is teaching him in HIS way .. that HE needs to lean.. & at HIS level..
He won't be able to retain or capture any thing.. because he's not being taught in a way that He NEEDS to be based on his limitations.. or level of learning & skills..
She's just setting him up for frustration & to fail as long as she continues to ignore & deny that there's anything different with him..She isn't doing him any favors..Or her really either.
She needs to be able to accept that he has something going on..
It's sad.. But there are so many Parents that just deny this.. as if to ay that as long as they don't admit it.. maybe it will just all go away.. or they child will grow out of it or something.. But she HAS to see it.. Especially when she see's ALL of your kids just Thriving..
& then she watches him.. not even wanting in interact at all like the others.. She is really in complete denial.. Who knows.. She'll have to come to terms with it Jess.. But she won't do it until she's ready to you know..

All you can you really is try to make her see that he does have some things going on that needs some special attention..


Kathie.. Farm Girl Sister #29

"In a World Where you Can Be Anything, Be Yourself"..
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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  6:37:01 PM  Show Profile
oh yes this i know. But you know..."He is perfectly normal he just has some strange reactions to things. Everybody reacts differently you know to different things." Well, I will tell you my reaction to that was that I wanted to scream obscenities at the top of my lungs..but you know I must set a good example for the children.

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Kathie
True Blue Farmgirl

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Kathie
Thonotosassa Florida
USA
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Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  6:44:53 PM  Show Profile
MAIL CALL!!!!

WOW!! My Mail Carrier Must have REALLY Loved Me Today!!!

THREE Packages in the Mail Boxes today!!!!

Cheryl in California!! Whew Hooo!! How Sweet!! She does the Cutest Little Mini's!!
They have a nifty little Bib type Overlay on top of the 1st Apron.. I think she did the same Style on her Valentine Mini too! Buckeroo!! With a Silver Stud Star!! So Cool!!

The 2nd Set was from Linda (Yarnmama) .. Denim!! How Fitting!! & Aplique's!! & Teentzy little Wee Bandana's too! Just TOO Dang Cute For Words!! Such Clever Ideas!!

& The 3rd Set was From Our Baby Girl Naomi!!
(Nay.. I Think Our Box is Fine Pumpkin.. Although I KNOW I probably did a bit more Damage this time around trying to get it opened up!!)
A Bit of Denim..& Applique's too!! But with a SWEET little old Vintage look of Baby Cow Pokes!!
Just Way way Sweet!!

You Girls are Just SEW Darn Creative!! You pull out the best ideas!! I LOVE it!!

Great Idea to Go with the Western Idea Gracie!! I really think these are so adorable!
I know the Spring ones are going to be lovely too.. but you know which ones I am getting excited about? The Birthday ones!! I have some AWESOME Ideas!!! I CAN'T Wait!!

Yeah.. Mini Fever!!

Speaking of Fever.. I am feeling alot better..

& did I tell you My Chest Ex-Ray came back Clear..? Yes.. I'm good.. although 'Fred' Said he did feel that aside from just the Bronchitis I probably did have walking pnuemonia.. He is releasing me to go back to work Thursday if I want to..So..I am..I've been out of work over a week now! So.. Back to work I go!
My job isn't physical anyway.. So i'll be fine..

ok.. well.. You all have a Lovely nite!

& behave yourselves!!

Love ya Lots!!



Kathie.. Farm Girl Sister #29

"In a World Where you Can Be Anything, Be Yourself"..

Edited by - Kathie on Mar 05 2008 6:46:21 PM
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smoothiejuice
True Blue Farmgirl

6309 Posts

Jessica
Bloomington Indiana
USA
6309 Posts

Posted - Mar 05 2008 :  6:54:18 PM  Show Profile
gnite! has anyone heard from carol sue? has that baby popped out yet?

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katmom
True Blue Farmgirl

17161 Posts

Grace
WACAL Gal WashCalif.
USA
17161 Posts

Posted - Mar 06 2008 :  6:38:54 PM  Show Profile
Hey miss kathie, glad you are back among the living!!!! & feeling better.

Jess, I can't remember where I heard it, but I heard Teresa had her boy, I think they said he was 10lbs....but don't quote me.

Kathie, B-day mini's????? way to cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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yarnmamma
True Blue Farmgirl

4247 Posts

Linda
Clarks Summit PA
USA
4247 Posts

Posted - Mar 06 2008 :  6:53:45 PM  Show Profile  Send yarnmamma a Yahoo! Message
Kathie,
Did I forget the return postage? I just thought about it!!
wow, so sorry if I forgot...Please let me know,
Linda

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"NEVER underestimate the power of a woman."
farmgirl #71 Linda in PA
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suzyhomemaker
True Blue Farmgirl

806 Posts

Clare
Tyler Hill PA
USA
806 Posts

Posted - Mar 08 2008 :  12:55:05 PM  Show Profile
Hi, Kathie. Mine are finished unless I can find some clear or white shrinky dink film this week while down in NJ for tests. I will have them mailed off by Friday at the latest. Sorry, they may arrive a bit late, but I promise they are cute, and hope you will wait on me. I just have to see if I can try this shrinky dink thing and add the charms off the star brads. Hope I can find it. I've enjoyed embellishing these minis and adding funny "Cowboy Quotes" in the little pockets. It always feels good to get teh sewing done and play around making them cute. I can't wait to hang this group in the house.

Country girl in NE PA
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Naomi Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl

1563 Posts

Naomi
Sunshine State
USA
1563 Posts

Posted - Mar 08 2008 :  8:30:22 PM  Show Profile
glad you got em Kathie, hope I sent sufficient postage...yeah, I was going to do the aprons completely out of the baby cdowpoke fabric...but...wanted everone to get a full image....too cute huh? loooove the fabric!

~Naomi~

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