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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

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Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2007 :  7:30:31 PM  Show Profile
After reading and rereading MaryJane's Books and Mags and pouring over this website I have decided to start a garden area for next year.
I have a stip of yard that has seen better days and at the end of it is a fort that is raised, there is walking room underneath it, that I am going to enclose and put in a chicken coop. I will post some pictures later to give people a visual of this area. In the city we can have up to 3 chickens and no roosters. I have had 1 chicken a couple of times but this time I will be going for 2 or 3. Anyways the section that I want to work with is 6 feet x 24 feet. I am going to make it a raised garden and am builting the frame for it tomorrow. I have the wood inthe backyard right now. What I would like some opinions on would be what kind of veggies to start out with and any other advice you could give.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart

Tina Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl

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Tina
sunshine state FL
USA
6948 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2007 :  8:47:11 PM  Show Profile
I'd actually suggest the book titled "Square Foot Gardening"
And if you have a local nursery where the "old timers" hang out..or a local feed and seed supply store..talk to them to find out what people plant, and at what time of the year. You'll get a good idea of what is grown in your area..and when most folks start putting in their seeds/crops.
As for suggestions for what you could plant: lettuce,bell peppers,tomatoes, bush beans,radish,fingerling carrots
Good luck to you! Have fun!

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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2007 :  10:23:25 PM  Show Profile
Thanks for the reply. I am printing your info and will look for the book you suggested. I am getting so excited for this adventure.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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CherryPie
True Blue Farmgirl

935 Posts

Kimberly Ann
Puyallup WA
USA
935 Posts

Posted - Nov 03 2007 :  09:30:17 AM  Show Profile
Good question, Lorie - I'm planning to start a veggie garden myself. I hadn't thought of doing it raised, but now I think I will investigate that. The soil is poor where I am planning to put it and that would solve some other sloping problems too. Thanks.

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kitchensqueen
True Blue Farmgirl

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Posted - Nov 03 2007 :  09:32:05 AM  Show Profile
I second the Square Foot Gardening book- it's a great primer on maximizing yield from minimum space. As far as figuring out what to plant, for the first year, plant things you know you will enjoy eating. If you hate cucumber, don't plant it just because you think it should be in the garden- you don't have to have one of each vegetable. Some easier things to learn to grow are lettuces, bunching onions, tomatoes, herbs, peppers and strawberries.

I really like the Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds catalog, but you might look for the Territorial Seeds catalog- they're great also, and they are located in Oregon. I think it's important to try to get seeds from a source that is as local to you as possible, because they're the seeds that are going to perform the best in your particular microclimate/ecoshed.

And you certainly have the right idea to start you planning in the fall- now you have all winter to plan things out exactly as you want them. :-)

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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 03 2007 :  6:28:37 PM  Show Profile
Lorie -

If you like, rhubarb grows well in Oregon along with artichoke. I plant only what we like, green beans (I use blue lake pole beans to maximize yield to space, with a bamboo tee pee), tomatoes, lettuce, potatoes, onions, garlic, cucumbers and sometimes zucchini. I also have raspberries and marionberries that grow on a trellis at one end of the garden.

Good luck.

Anne in Portland

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 03 2007 :  6:48:17 PM  Show Profile
Thanks to everyone for your information. I ordered the "Square Foot Gardening" I got it used for $1.99. I also got my frame built today and my layer of newspaper down. Tomorrow I will be putting the leaves on. I think I will be hitting the neighbors up for their leaves. They just might thnk I have lost my mind. My teenagers aren't quite sure what to think, but they have help me a bit. I know they are wondering why I want to turn their fort at the end of the garden in to a chicken coop, but we all know why...I am a farmgirl in training.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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La Patite Ferme
True Blue Farmgirl

623 Posts

Jenn
CA
USA
623 Posts

Posted - Nov 03 2007 :  7:48:43 PM  Show Profile
Lorie,

When I put in my raised beds I made a list of the veggies that DD and I like the best. Then a list of liked veggies that we could can or freeze, like tomatoes, pickled beets or dry like beans and peas. My herbs have a dedicated bed.

I have eight 4'x8' raised beds that I rotate from year to year. I also have a mobile trellis for beans, peas, cucmumber, etc to climb on. Larger vining crops like squash, pumpkins and melons are in a different area of the yard.

When ever possible I buy bush type seeds (like beans or zucks) so I don't have vines chocking out the other crops and to save on space. But, I also don't want seeds that have been soooo hybirdized that the veggies have no flavor.

The Square Foot Garden book has a good section on watching the path of the sun so you don't put tall veggies where shorter one's will be shaded out. It's great info on maximizing your garden.

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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 04 2007 :  07:06:04 AM  Show Profile
Lorie -

When you have it all set up you should post pictures. I would love to see how the chicken coop turns out. Oh and what great source of fertilizer for all of your plants - chicken poo

Good luck.

Anne in Portland

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 04 2007 :  2:41:50 PM  Show Profile
Anne
I am ready to show some pictures of the garden area. So I went ot the help section and started a new acount on Photobucket. I'm not sure how to get them on here, I don't think I am suppose to do that, although there is a button up here that says insert image. Got amy advise?

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 04 2007 :  4:21:34 PM  Show Profile
Lorie -

Have photobucket open to the photos you want to attach. Open this thread also and go to reply to topic. You will see the icon that is like a picture, click on that and you will get [img]/[img] somthing like that. Go back to photobuck and highlight the third option under your photo - img code and copy that whole thread. Come back your reply here in MaryJane's sight and paste the thread between the two [] in your reply. This should post the picture.

Anne in Portland

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh

Edited by - asnedecor on Nov 04 2007 4:22:09 PM
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 04 2007 :  7:42:23 PM  Show Profile
Ok Lets see if this works, I can tell you have told a few gals how to do this before. Thanks

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Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 04 2007 :  7:44:37 PM  Show Profile
The pictures are big!! They are also backwards, The first shot would be the frame then the beginging of the leaf collection.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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La Patite Ferme
True Blue Farmgirl

623 Posts

Jenn
CA
USA
623 Posts

Posted - Nov 04 2007 :  8:22:11 PM  Show Profile
Lori,

What a great space. Plenty of room for a variety of veggies. And, I think your chickens will love their new coop too.

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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 05 2007 :  06:52:02 AM  Show Profile
Lori -

It worked - great! Nice space, looks like it will be a nice size garden and a cool chick coop.

Anne

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 05 2007 :  8:45:34 PM  Show Profile
I had a helper today. This is my yorkie Louie. We got the garden filled in with leaves.


Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 06 2007 :  06:54:16 AM  Show Profile
Louie looks to be quite happy in the wheelbarrow. Cute helper.

Anne in Portland

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Onionhead
Farmgirl in Training

22 Posts

Melissa
Oklahoma
22 Posts

Posted - Nov 07 2007 :  1:59:26 PM  Show Profile
Oh how exciting a new garden and chickens! I love the pic of your little helper too, too cute LOL! Love what you've done so far with the garden bed, that is gonna be one big bed. I love the fact that you are incorporating chickens into that area too, that will be nice and just a consideration since I know you can only have 3 chickens, the small variety like I have I think would be a nice addition.....I just have 4 cochin bantam hens in a 9 X 12 chicken coop, I think that's the size of it, well anyways, that variety would be perfect for your yard and they are the sweetest, gentlest and most docile breed of chickens too. Here's a pic of our coop and my girls for some ideas :) Scuse the chicken coop pic, it's a 2 year old pic and it looks alot cuter now, but you can see it's plenty big for my girls, so I know your coop idea would be perfect for bantams! Good luck on what your doing and keep us posted







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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 07 2007 :  8:31:37 PM  Show Profile

I love bantams they are so cute I am very excited about my new adventure..BTW Love your coop. I am going to print a copy of it and incorporate some ideas to my area. I go to my first gardening class on Saturday. It's about composting and getting the great soil for your garden. Perfect timing.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 08 2007 :  07:00:37 AM  Show Profile
Melissa -

I love your chickens. They are so cute.

Anne in Portland

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Onionhead
Farmgirl in Training

22 Posts

Melissa
Oklahoma
22 Posts

Posted - Nov 08 2007 :  08:19:14 AM  Show Profile
Thanks for enjoyin my chicken pics, didn't mean for the pics to be so big, but oh well (hee-hee) Have fun at your gardening class and that chicken poo will come in handy for great fertilizer, enjoy and keep us posted!

Thanks asnedecor(Anne)! Glad ya enjoyed the chickee pics, they are my sunshine :)
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aimeeravae
True Blue Farmgirl

341 Posts

Aimee
Deer River MN
USA
341 Posts

Posted - Nov 09 2007 :  11:59:37 AM  Show Profile
I love my garden. It has been enlarged many times now. I am up to 36'x38'. I found some vintage fench and fenced the whole thing. Now I can climb my cukes, beans and gourds. I generally put in 30-40 tomatoe plants. I have started the herb section and have planted the garlic. But, no matter where I put them, or how I fertilize, peppers and onions will not grow. I have finally resigned myself to not having them. The local hutterite colony keeps my supplied with the onion.

Aimee

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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 10 2007 :  08:03:21 AM  Show Profile
Aimee
What is a hutterite colony

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl

1054 Posts

Anne
Portland Or
USA
1054 Posts

Posted - Nov 10 2007 :  10:39:24 AM  Show Profile
Lorie -

I was curious too - so I looked it up on the web.


Hutterites are a communal branch of Anabaptists who, like the Amish and Mennonites, trace their roots to the Radical Reformation of the 16th century.


Hutterite communities, called "colonies", are all rural; many depend largely on farming or ranching, depending on their locale, for their income. More and more colonies are getting into manufacturing as its gets harder to make a living on farming alone. The colony is virtually or literally self-sufficient, constructing its own buildings, doing its own maintenance and repair on equipment, making its own clothes, etc.


Anne in Portland

"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 10 2007 :  4:31:40 PM  Show Profile
Well thanks for that info, You are like an encyclopedia.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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Lorie
Farmgirl in Training

42 Posts

Lorie
Oregon
USA
42 Posts

Posted - Nov 14 2007 :  7:52:48 PM  Show Profile
Hey girls
I've got worms!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my garden you silly. They are just working away at the leaves and stuff out there.

Lorie Q
Springfield,OR
Gingham At Heart
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