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oldfashioned girl
True Blue Farmgirl

2391 Posts

monica
oatman az
USA
2391 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  10:14:17 AM  Show Profile
Ronna, It's not the rent that's the problem! The problem is being pressured to buy it! We have done work on the house including the 2 weeks Gary spent re-wiring the house after we had an electrical fire here 2 weeks after we moved in because the former owners had way too high breakers and some wiring shorted out! He has also dug up the plumbing to the septic because it kept backing up because the pipe turned at a sharp angle! We paid twice to have the septic pumped and we paid for a new hot water tank! Gary also was going to fix the roof where the fire was, but John would never give him the okay! We put in new plumbing in the kitchen after I was without plumbing off and on for 3 years!
It is putting a dent in our friendship! John has come over 2-3 times a week for dinner since we moved up here and now it's just awkward for me plus the fact that we go to the same church which is where we met him! I am trying to be cordial, but sometimes I just want to yell at both of them!

Monica
farmgirls rule!

www.justducky48.etsy.com
www.justducky48.blogspot.com
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Ronna
True Blue Farmgirl

1891 Posts

Ronna
Fernley NV
USA
1891 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  10:45:24 AM  Show Profile
Monica, my apologies for not knowing "the whole story". You've put a lot of $$ and work into the place. Would it be possible to do a lease option for a year (and hope the other place gets finished) that would not obligate you at the end of the term and yet keep John happier? Of course, being such a small town, he'd probably know if you have plans for the other house in that time...and that would likely not be good.
Electrical and plumbing are not easy nor cheap problems.
Got word that the leach fields had not been prepped properly in the new house bought in SoCalif desert and the builder was not happy when I called for them to come back and do it right. A backed up septic is not a pleasant surprise. Lots of cut corners that my ex caught soon enough and corrected, but he missed that one. Low cost homes built with less than quality materials and workmanship.
The stress on your whole family is not good, especially with John being around often. I do hope you can find a remedy that will make it better for you. Sorry about my misunderstanding.

Edited by - Ronna on Feb 17 2009 10:55:40 AM
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DeepsouthMamma
True Blue Farmgirl

1454 Posts

Autumn
Southwest Louisiana
USA
1454 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  11:53:00 AM  Show Profile
OH Girls!!! I am sooo thrilled!! Ronnna- the English Muffins were just wonderful!! SOOOO easy and oh so good!!!

You cannot imagine-I couldn't!!!
They will be on my blog in a few days for sure!!!
THANK YOU!THANK YOU-Ronna!!!!

Blessings,
Autumn
Farmgirl #49
http://simplytoday-autumn.blogspot.com/

Isaiah 40:31
But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.
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oldfashioned girl
True Blue Farmgirl

2391 Posts

monica
oatman az
USA
2391 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  11:57:45 AM  Show Profile
Ronna, That's fine! To be honest, just being able to vent has helped a lot! I feel a lot more encouraged that maybe things will work out with the other place! Yes there are drawbacks to living in a small town!

On a brighter note I need your opinion ladies! I am going to order business cards and if there is no big catch at the end they are supposed to be 500 for $5.00, but I can't decide which one I like the best! Help me pick please! http://www.vistaprint.com/premium-business-cards/gallery.aspx?pf_id=088&pg=1&rd=3&preid=3&showbookmarks=true&sc=-1&xnav=filter

Monica
farmgirls rule!

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www.justducky48.blogspot.com
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:21:57 PM  Show Profile
Hey Monica,

I'm gonna post links to the cards that I like..there are so many good ones..

this one is colorful and would get another woman's attention:

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:25:14 PM  Show Profile
Another one...

www.vistaprint.com%2fgallery.aspx%3fpg%3d1%26rd%3d3%26filter%3d9%3a10013%7c%7c1%2c4%3a10003%7c%7c1%2c3%3a10001%7c%7c1%26page%3d9%26pagesize%3d24%26sort%3dp_TO!desc%26xnav%3dpagenav%26xnid%3dbottom" target="_blank">http://www.vistaprint.com/vp/ns/studio3.aspx?pf_id=088&combo=64727.104.59.96415%7c96415%7c137%7c0&uei=100698&icparts=yes&ag=true&combo_id=106482&ssc=1&filter=9%3a10013%7c%7c1%2c4%3a10003%7c%7c1%2c3%3a10001%7c%7c1&xnav=previews&xnid=button&rd=3&referer=http%3a%2f%2fwww.vistaprint.com%2fgallery.aspx%3fpg%3d1%26rd%3d3%26filter%3d9%3a10013%7c%7c1%2c4%3a10003%7c%7c1%2c3%3a10001%7c%7c1%26page%3d9%26pagesize%3d24%26sort%3dp_TO!desc%26xnav%3dpagenav%26xnid%3dbottom


Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:29:09 PM  Show Profile
another card

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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Bonne
True Blue Farmgirl

3003 Posts

Bonne
Littleton CO
USA
3003 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:30:20 PM  Show Profile
Vista print has lots of free offers going all the time. It's the only place to get cards etc. IMO. Just order some~if you don't like them later, just order some different ones~can't beat the price 250 free just pay ship.
# Free Business Cards
# Free Websites
# Free Rubber Stamps
# Free Pens
# Free Logo Design
# Caricature Design
# Free Checks
# Free Car Door Magnets

It's unbelievably windy today, I keep losing my internet service. aRRGGHHH!!!

http://bonne1313.blogspot.com/ BLOG
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:30:37 PM  Show Profile
Here's one with a dress on it..

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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homemom
True Blue Farmgirl

1593 Posts

Ruth
Warwick RI
USA
1593 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:31:39 PM  Show Profile
I tried links and that didn't work so here are the ones I like:
Page 1: 2nd card in the fourth row from the top
Page 2: 3rd one in the second row
Page 5: 1st one in the second row
Page 16: 1st one in the fifth row
Page 20: 3rd one in the second row


These are a few of the ones I liked Monica. There are so many to choose from.
I was able to get the Apronology magazine for you. I will mail it next week when I get paid.
Ruth

Living the farm life in my heart.
http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/Ruth
http://farmgirlinmyheart.blogspot.com/
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Ronna
True Blue Farmgirl

1891 Posts

Ronna
Fernley NV
USA
1891 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:32:32 PM  Show Profile
Autumn, so glad you liked the English Muffins. Guess I should share the recipe with more than the "selected few". Did you bake them on a griddle or in the oven?
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:33:34 PM  Show Profile
This is really pretty and would fit anything you may wind up doing...

www.vistaprint.com%2fgallery.aspx%3fpg%3d1%26rd%3d3%26filter%3d9%3a10013%7c%7c1%2c4%3a10003%7c%7c1%2c3%3a10001%7c%7c1%26page%3d17%26pagesize%3d24%26sort%3dp_TO!desc%26xnav%3dpagenav%26xnid%3dbottom" target="_blank">http://www.vistaprint.com/vp/ns/studio3.aspx?pf_id=088&combo=895.121.4.13741%7c13741%7c137%7c0&uei=5805&icparts=yes&ag=true&combo_id=5995&ssc=1&filter=9%3a10013%7c%7c1%2c4%3a10003%7c%7c1%2c3%3a10001%7c%7c1&xnav=previews&rd=3&referer=http%3a%2f%2fwww.vistaprint.com%2fgallery.aspx%3fpg%3d1%26rd%3d3%26filter%3d9%3a10013%7c%7c1%2c4%3a10003%7c%7c1%2c3%3a10001%7c%7c1%26page%3d17%26pagesize%3d24%26sort%3dp_TO!desc%26xnav%3dpagenav%26xnid%3dbottom


Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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Bonne
True Blue Farmgirl

3003 Posts

Bonne
Littleton CO
USA
3003 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:35:37 PM  Show Profile
I'm going to be on a baking tear tomorrow up at my son's. Think I'll start my sponge tonight and bring it with me so it's good and sour by tomorrow. Oh, Ronna, this sourdough baking has just opened up a whole 'nother world for us! lol I put the starter in everything~even in my brownies I made yesterday.

http://bonne1313.blogspot.com/ BLOG

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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:36:21 PM  Show Profile
this is pretty cool..shows part of an old sewing machine.

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:51:17 PM  Show Profile
clothing on this one..

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:53:47 PM  Show Profile
very simple and very hip

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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Naomi Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl

1563 Posts

Naomi
Sunshine State
USA
1563 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:55:55 PM  Show Profile
Ah...Vista Print is good....but..http://www.colorpointprint.com/
is really really cheap(and good)....1000 full color double sided cards, with glossy on both sides, was $30 including shipping, they came in a week after I ordered.


~Naomi~

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be-Abraham Lincoln
Check out my blog:http://thebellamodiste.blogspot.com/
and my Etsy stores: www.shesewsbytheseashore.etsy.com
www.steamgirl1900.etsy.com
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queenofdreamsz4u
True Blue Farmgirl

3845 Posts

Stephanie Suzanne
Smoky Mountains Tennessee
USA
3845 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:55:57 PM  Show Profile
mid century modern

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Queen of Dreamsz ~ keeper of dream kingdom
www.queenofdreamsz.blogspot.com ~~~~~~The Portal to A Vintage Collection & My Creative Journey


"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass…it's about learning to dance in the rain."
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Naomi Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl

1563 Posts

Naomi
Sunshine State
USA
1563 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  12:57:11 PM  Show Profile
of course....you do have to have your design...

~Naomi~

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be-Abraham Lincoln
Check out my blog:http://thebellamodiste.blogspot.com/
and my Etsy stores: www.shesewsbytheseashore.etsy.com
www.steamgirl1900.etsy.com
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Ronna
True Blue Farmgirl

1891 Posts

Ronna
Fernley NV
USA
1891 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  1:02:53 PM  Show Profile
Bonne, so happy to expand your baking horizons..if it expands waistlines, I won't take the blame. I'll have to admit I've never added it to brownies, but will take your word that it's good. In many recipes, it adds a flavor dimension that is hard to pinpoint but really good.
Posted that sourdough english muffin recipe on MJ's bread baking thread, first one in the kitchen.
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homemom
True Blue Farmgirl

1593 Posts

Ruth
Warwick RI
USA
1593 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  1:07:05 PM  Show Profile
I will definitely have to check out the english muffin recipe. I have been getting my starter ready to make some bread. I think I will have enough on Thursday to make a couple of loaves.

I can't wait to try it.

Ruth

Living the farm life in my heart.
http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/Ruth
http://farmgirlinmyheart.blogspot.com/
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homemom
True Blue Farmgirl

1593 Posts

Ruth
Warwick RI
USA
1593 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  1:29:07 PM  Show Profile
Ronna~I was just in the Farm Kitchen~You are a baking queen. I love all the tips and recipes you've shared.

BTW~I mailed out your check today. Sorry it's a little late. The dr. I work for messed up on my check. Sorry.

Ruth

Living the farm life in my heart.
http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/Ruth
http://farmgirlinmyheart.blogspot.com/
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Ronna
True Blue Farmgirl

1891 Posts

Ronna
Fernley NV
USA
1891 Posts

Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  1:33:03 PM  Show Profile
You don't need a lot leftover from baking to start feeding again Ruth. 1/4 cup is plenty, less than what I sent you. just back down the amounts at each feeding until you build up the supply and then increase if you want more.
What I've not said on here or MaryJanes thread is the thickness of your starter. It's personal preference. I keep mine like pancake batter, but water and flour ratios can be adjusted to suit yourself. Starter is not rocket science and you'll enjoy it more if you can relax and use it as you wish. The pioneers kept it more as a mother, a chunk of dough left from baking, and stored it in the flour barrel for temp control and safety on the prairies. My MIL said her mother and grandmother kept it on the top of the wood/coal cooking stove in Kansas, closer to the pipe when it was cold.
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homemom
True Blue Farmgirl

1593 Posts

Ruth
Warwick RI
USA
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Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  1:34:57 PM  Show Profile
Ooh! Ronna~ then I can probably bake some bread tomorrow. I am thrilled.
Ruth

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Ronna
True Blue Farmgirl

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Ronna
Fernley NV
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Posted - Feb 17 2009 :  1:48:23 PM  Show Profile
Ruth and anyone just beginning with my starter; it's well aged, you only need to increase by feedings to bring it up to the amount you need for your recipe with a bit left over. Even if you should forget and dump it all in, there will be enough on the sides of the container for you to feed and continue on. If you are a slave to it, you'll hate it; if you relax and enjoy using it, you'll love it...unless you just don't like the taste of sourdough and that is a personal problem :) My other half does not like it, so I do understand. He's weird, but then his mother told me she didn't like it either but realized in talking to me that it was what her mother and grandmother baked when she was growing up on the farm in Kansas. She baked all her bread, never bought any until she was well into her 80's. And then bought the cheapest caramel colored so called "wheat" bread at the store. Makes no sense, her bread was always white and it was the best thing she did in the kitchen.
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