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nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 12:17:18 PM
I am going to start canning this summer/fall. I inherited a nice, glass top range. That's the problem- not a safe way to can using it, without possibly doing major damage. I read some people can outdoors, using propane. I can invest some in a heavy duty propane cooker, like this-
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Camp-Chef-Weekender-2-Burner-Stove/4809684

I do have a patio right off my kitchen, power, and water. Anyone tried eletric? I'd like to do that, but I don't want to buy a range. Any ideas???

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nancypo Posted - Jun 27 2011 : 11:20:21 AM
Well, I think I'm back at the idea of propane. I'm afraid the housing of the eletrical burner may melt over long periods. Here's something I found that may work, but I need to check the BTU's- http://www.cabelas.com/product/Camping/Outdoor-Cooking/Cookers-Accessories%7C/pc/104795280/c/104754780/sc/104276880/King-Kooker-Camp-Stoves/747224.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fcamping-outdoor-cooking-cookers-accessories%2F_%2FN-1100710%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104276880%3FWTz_l%3DUnknown%253Bcat104795280%253Bcat104754780&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104795280%3Bcat104754780%3Bcat104276880

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CMac Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 11:55:02 AM
Mary Beth- I don't use them near as much as I should. That will change once the farm gets back up and running for sure. Starting with soil testing!
Connie

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Okie Farm Girl Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 11:48:30 AM
Connie, I think they were talking about those open propane burners, not contained stoves. I am so glad that yours will be ok!! Whew. I have figured out, when in question, call the extension office! They don't know everything, but they can steer you in the right direction.

Mary Beth

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countrymommy85 Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 11:31:08 AM
Yeah, I wish I could get something better to can on outside but all I have is this propane turkey burner. I will be making a shield so I can maximize the propane use and shield it so it can be constant, although wind usually isn't a problem in the summer/fall. Mainly that is a winter/spring problem, but you never know! I am considering making myself a complete outdoor "kitchen" next to my garden (we have a perfect place for it where we used to store wood, it's open on 3 sides!) and I mean it is only a few feet from my garden! I could do everything outside and not bring any mess into my non air conditioned home! I'm so glad other ladies do this outside too! Great topic Nancy! Thanks for posting!

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CMac Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 10:34:20 AM
Propane can be stinky. I learned about that when i lived in the old farmhouse on our property. It can leave an oily residue on everything too. What I found out was this only happens if the appliance ( Stove, HVAC unit etc) is not burning the propane efficiently. We had to have our HVAC unit adjusted and cleaned to solve the problem. After that it was fine. No smell and better yet no residue. That was a mess. All the walls and ceilings had to be scrubbed before we could paint. Just nasty!
Angela that sounds like a perfect setup. We have enough blow down wood around here to can all summer! Wish I could send it to you. Looks like our fire pit will get a lot of use this fall.
Connie

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nancypo Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 10:10:45 AM
Natesgirl, I wish I had that as an option! Smells better than propane! Although, if I can do this inside, I have A/C for those 100+ degree days/weeks!

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CMac Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 09:07:11 AM
Just checked the web and my new stove should be just fine. Whew!
Connie

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natesgirl Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 09:03:15 AM
I have been inspired and am beyond excited!!!!

I have this little tiny wood stove in the basement that has 2 burner cutouts in the top of it. I'm gonna have the hubby drag it out and put it on the deck. We have enough brick to line the little nook that holds the bbq grill. There is enough room there for the little stove and it's put on the side of the house out of the wind. I could use the grill to keep the food hot while the stove is workin the canner.

There is outlets right at the corner where I could plug in a radio and a fan. If there is no wind I'll have the fan to cool me off. There are 3 big tables out there to hold all the jars as they cool or are waitin for them to be filled. I have the garden hose right at the end of the deck for emergencies and the kitchen is right inside the door on the deck.

It's such a perfect and amazing setup! I don't have to wait for windy and rainy days to keep the kitchen cool enough to tollerate anymore!

I love all the great ideas that come from this website and you amazing ladies!!!

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CMac Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 08:52:13 AM
Mary Beth- Yikes! My new kitchen will have a gas range that will be propane. There is no natural gas out where I live! I need to get online quick and see if I will have problems. It will come with the nipple attachments that convert it from natural gas to propane. Surely that means it will work OK? Jeeze hope so. I saved forever to get that stove and thought I had done all the research necessary. Off to the web!
Connie

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Author: Henry David Thoreau
Hope Floats Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 08:26:28 AM
I'm so jealous....I would love to do my canning outside. But with temperatures above 100 until at least September...no chance. We won't see cooler temps until November. I would love to live in an area with four seasons!
nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 11:01:04 PM
I'm going to try what Cmac suggested after I buy one. If it doesn't work I'll send it bake right away. Several people posted on Amazon that they're canning with them successfully... then if need be I can get a gas one. I'm trying to do it inside if possible. And it's very DRY in Boise, no dripping curtains. I always liked my glass top stove that came with the house, til now :( Oh well... I love a good experiment!

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Okie Farm Girl Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 10:44:35 PM
Nancy, I have been looking for an outdoor alternative as well and have concluded that there is no electric burner that is powerful enough. Because they are 110 plugs, the highest wattage is only 1500 and that isn't enough to do a canner full of jars. A gas burner is the only alternative, I guess, however, it can't be like a turkey fryer or anything that has a high BTU (canner can explode). I ended up buying a propane outdoor camp oven with two burners and an actual oven. I figure that if it works, great - and if not, we'll just take it camping with us! We may just have to go back to the pioneer days and build a big fire!!!:-)

Below is what I read online:
"Propane burns very hot, hotter than regular indoor gas that is used in a pipeline. Also, most propane burners don't control low flames very well, unless the burner has multiple elements and multiple controls. Very few choice are out there that can give a very low flame without it blowing out due to even light breezes. A shroud of some kind would be needed to prevent the breezes from blowing into the flame area."

Mary Beth

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CMac Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 9:00:38 PM
I would put my pressure cooker on it, minus the top, and bring it to a boil. If it holds a rolling boil it should work. You can always do a trial run with water and no jars to see if it will hold the pressure.
I'm looking forward to doing all my water bath stuff outside. The steam is enough to make the curtains drip after a full day of water bath canning!
Connie

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nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 8:51:35 PM
The BTU's are probably in the owner's manual, or should be online. I don't think that would probably be hot enough, as they're designed more for cooking small pans (used to have one)... and you want something to handle the weight. I'm going with electric- cheaper (for me), faster and I can work inside my kitchen. A/C and exhaust vent :)

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Ninibini Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 8:42:46 PM
I have a really silly question... Can I use the propane burner on my grill (the one for cooking with pots) to do this? How do I know the BTU's? Maybe my husband will know?

My word! I am soooo excited! Before you posted, Nancy, I was trying to convince my DH to switch over to a gas stove/oven (which I have always wanted, anyway), and he said I should just use the burner on the gas grill. I looked at him with crossed eyes, and figured I'd never be able to use a pressure canner... Now, I have options!!!

THANK YOU GIRLS!!! FARMGIRLS ARE THE BEST!!!!

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nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 7:39:07 PM
And I won't be doing any huge batches... The "flood control" is annoying here. Must be a small server or something. Never seen that on a message board before...

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nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 7:37:38 PM
The one I looked at has 1500 watts

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CMac Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 6:42:48 PM
Nancy, Check the BTU's or amps or whatever it is that tells you how hot it gets compared to a stove burner. Some don't get hot enough. I tried one to boil my wool and it just would not boil a large volume of water at a rolling boil and hold it there. That is why I went with propane in the end. If you could find one powerful enough it would work I just don't want you to waste your money like I did.
Connie

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Author: Henry David Thoreau
CMac Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 6:37:48 PM
Nancy, Check the BTU's or amps or whatever it is that tells you how hot it gets compared to a stove burner. Some don't get hot enough. I tried one to boil my wool and it just would not boil a large volume of water at a rolling boil and hold it there. That is why I went with propane in the end. If you could find one powerful enough it would work I just don't want you to waste your money like I did.
Connie

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Author: Henry David Thoreau
nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 5:24:04 PM
Bertha, that's why I'm looking for another alternative...

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nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 5:22:48 PM
I'm considering this, it's small and I could use it inside, no propane to buy... http://www.amazon.com/Waring-DB60-Portable-Double-Burner/dp/B000I16B18/ref=pd_sim_k_1

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bertha Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 4:26:32 PM
Just a word about glass top ranges Be very careful I dropped a plate on mine and it shattered.. To replace it 500.00 Just sayin..
nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 4:11:21 PM
:) Anyone use something electric though? I'd rather do that...

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CMac Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 4:08:27 PM
Of course you can you are a FarmGirl!
Connie

"I have three chairs in my house: one for solitude, two for friendship, three for company."
Author: Henry David Thoreau
nancypo Posted - Jun 22 2011 : 3:59:20 PM
Thanks for the ideas. I had looked into the turkey propane unit, but it didn't sound as adjustable. Some of the newer outdoor units come w/wind screens, but I can always build one!

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