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FieldsofThyme Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 05:40:39 AM
I am so close to calling my cable company and having our internet shut off. Literally.

I know I will not be able to check my e-mail or blog or run my on-line store, but could always use the library computers.

I am just so sick of facebook. My oldest daughter is abusing her stay here, and now I am told that she's putting stuff on her facebook about her stay here. She of course is boasting her "side" of things. She's manipulative, uncaring, selfish.

Now, in my own home, I cannot even tell her to get out of bed at 11:00am or she'll post something bad about me or whatnot on her facebook. She also does this with her Twitter and has blocked me from that. I don't use facebook, but my Mother, brother, SIL and so forth are.

I am tired of having to "walk on eggshells" in my own home just because someone may take what I have said, turn it around, and post it for the world to see. She is basically controlling this home with her power of "freedom of speech" on the internet.

I absolutely hate facebook. It ruins families. It hurts people. It's gives kids too much room to exploit.

I'll admit, I don't haven any good friends that I can sit down with, have a good cup of coffee with, and talk freely with, because I do not have facebook. That's okay with me. A good friend wouldn't care. I believe God has one out there somewhere for me, and I can wait.

Has anyone ever just gotten rid of their internet due to facebook and kids abusing it in some sort of way?

I mean, really. My family can still call and text me.



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sjmjgirl Posted - Jul 12 2013 : 2:40:04 PM
I'm glad things are getting better for you! I have wondered how you were doing. As far as the kids getting around passwords, if things get outta hand again, take away the electronics and lock them up. Done!

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FieldsofThyme Posted - Jul 10 2013 : 04:16:40 AM
Just an update.
I have shut off the computer twice now, and kept it off the entire day, and one time all night. Unplugging everything.
It was a lesson to the entire family really. I call their electronics "lazy makers" and if there is any type of overuse, or abuse, it goes off now. They know I am not kidding now.

As for passwords, they will find a way to access it (if anything is plugged in at all). They always do. The internet is an addition to kids in this era.

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AnnieinIdaho Posted - Jun 17 2013 : 09:04:00 AM
Hi! Yes, I have seen facebook cause many problems in families. Most frequent amongst family members that have a grudge, or hidden agenda, seem to communicate in passive aggressive style. Jealousies arise and it causes tension. I closed my facebook account years ago because the step-daughters would watch our every move and compare comments, visits, etc. I ended up telling them, that in the daily living, there sometimes isn't fair, but instead windows of opportunity that present themselves for each interaction, so when we would see one family member their needs were different than another family member, but that we cared for each of them. I told them over time it all works out in the wash, that there is not favoritism. Anyway, now we just visit each individually, with no triangulation, which FB can foster because the person reading it becomes the third person. It is because of triangulation that contention arises. I know so many use it as a tool and used correctly it can be a lifeline for many. I just don't feel comfortable watching people memorialize their lives. In my world I would have to say, "Time to go!" to the young lady. But it is much easier said than done. Best to you, keep strong boundaries. Annie

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sjmjgirl Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 3:05:04 PM
I wouldn't worry one bit about what she says about you online. The people who really care about you know better than to listen to a bunch of garbage. That being said, its time for her to move on. I would at least password protect the Internet, give her a timeline to move and stick with it. It's one thing if a child is living at home and being a positive, contributing member of society. It's quite another when they spend all day sleeping and bad mouthing you online. It's your house, so its your rules. Period.

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princesspatches Posted - Jun 16 2013 : 12:50:25 PM
We password protected our computers. But I also hacked the kids facebook accounts and changed the emails and password. Now they can only use facebook when I log them on. And I check them everyday.

They thought they were bring sneaky by only posting certain things on the 'wall's. But after I hacked in and read what was going on in the 'chatting' area. We cut the whole thing out.

We also cancelled their cell phones, kindles etc...... nothing is done nonline unless it has been approved by us and they do it in a common area.

We have a landlines and they are more than welcome to talk to their friends. I even let them have a party with friends. But all phones were dropped in a basket by the door.

Guess what? They are doing a ton better. No snotty mouths. No attitude. Very helpful. They both have summer jobs. And their friends are begging to hang out at our house because we have so much fun.

Taming this beast can be done.......but it is a lot of work. We are still a work in progress, but I'll keep you posted.

Arttie
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 6:12:01 PM
I agree with Lisa. I am not cold hearted, but I seen my uncles be coddled and it never helped them a lick. In fact one died shortly after grandma did. And he was her youngest child, only in his 40's. Grandma was 80 when she died. He died so young due to drug and alcoholism, never had to take any responsibility on, cause grandma always had him live with her, so he didn't have to have a job, or anything ever. He would abuse her, steal her money, etc etc...but as long as he was living with her she wanted it that way, so he would be "safe". yeah....he was real "safe" never having to grow up, and just using all the drugs and alcohol he wanted...like I said died very very very young.

I'm a strong believer in ALL freedom stops at my door. If you want freedom, freedom cost money-paying your own rent, utilities, cost of living, food, etc etc....if you're living on my dime, it's my way or the highway....EVERY thing EVERY where in the world has it's costs, weather they be real money or letting go of other things-trading, etc. But, nothing in life if "free". And when children are grown enough to be have "free speech" they are grown enough to pay for that right by living out on their paying for themselves.


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nubidane Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 5:48:37 PM
If she can't behave
tell her
"Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya"





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laurentany Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 2:07:12 PM
Kristina,
I would simply do as the others suggested and make the internet access password enabled. That way you wont be loosing out and perhaps without the liberty of free internet etc, she will be prompted to act properly, and/or realize that perhaps it is time to leave the nest.
She is old enough to know that its YOUR house YOUR rules! Like it or leave it!
Good luck my friend.
Hugs,


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Brian Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 11:20:46 AM
A random idea I had. Does she connect via YOUR wireless router? If so, perhaps password protect the connection and let her know what your terms for her gaining access to the internet are? (I'll leave those up to you...)

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Cindy Lou Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 10:25:42 AM
Kristina,
I'm sorry you are going through this. I know some parents who have a password to control access to their computer, its a bit of a bother but it is unfair to yourself and to have to give up what is used for a business because of her misbehavior. You didn't mention your older daughters age. If she is 18, some of the other options mentioned above could work but if she is younger don't let her control your life. My bet is that if family knows her as you do they take it all with a grain of salt, but you shouldn't have to put up with that kind of disrespect in your home.
Good luck working this out.
Susan

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Red Tractor Girl Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 09:07:14 AM
Perhaps it is time for your daughter to move on with her life and live on her own? I doubt that canceling your cable will do nothing except hurt you and your home business needs. It most likely won't stop her animosity. She needs to get out of the house and grow up. How about joining the military?? The Navy has less direct combat details but the military is a wonderful way for kids who are just stuck and not sure what to do. They get training , a regular salary, free medical and dental care and a chance to see the world while serving their country. It might be a wonderful opportunity to get that freedom and independence she is craving while growing up and learning teamwork and responsibility. She might be encouraged to just go talk with a few recruiters in the various branches to see which one appeals to her. It would be exciting and a way to feel that her life is moving forward . The military would give her that feeling of empowerment and purpose which is part of why she is just floundering right now. Invite her to go see a nearby recruiter just to talk about her options. It could be a fun experience and I imagine it might open up her eyes to possibilities that grab her attention and get her excited about her future. It can't hurt to just go and talk about what is possible when you sign up for a particular branch of the service.
AuntPammy Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 08:42:14 AM
Oh my goodness! I dislike fb as well....don't get me wrong, it has a purpose but in moderation. Can you make your internet password protected? That way she can't use it unless you turn it on. Just a thought...good luck!


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SandraM Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 08:21:56 AM
I am not sure what all the circumstances of your daughter staying there are but if she is an adult she would be forewarned that if she post things like that about our family she needs to find somewhere else to live. If she is underage then I would keep her from her phone/computer.
Sorry you are dealing with this!


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oldbittyhen Posted - Jun 14 2013 : 08:06:52 AM
don't allow her to use the computer, simple as that...

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