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KYgurlsrbest Posted - May 01 2008 : 10:12:47 AM
Was what I heard hissed behind me as I ordered my vege burger,side salad and water from a nice little local sandwich shop on my lunch hour. This gal continued to make comments while I paid for my lunch (and I didn't take it personally because she wasn't attacking ME, she was attacking a poor, defenseless vege burger) and then when I finally sat down and took a gander at who slighted my lunch preference, my eyes were met with two of the largest women I've ever seen, both of these lovely gals smoking cigarettes and carrying large "Big Sip" cups of diet coke (no less). One ordered chicken fingers with honey mustard dipping sauce and french fries and a side of ranch for her fries and the other ordered the fried fish platter, extra tartar sauce.

Now look, I'm not a food snob and I eat junk every now and again--ask the people at Graeters Ice Cream--but I'm choosing to look at my body as the only one I've got (um...and that's the truth) so why treat it badly?

Made me wanna hiss at them, "wow, you might as well wipe that fish meal and those chicken tenders on your hips cuz that's where it's going to be in the morning!" or "Walking time bombs!!" But, I refrained and remained ladylike, because remember, it wasn't about ME, it was about the veggie burger...and when they sat near me and smoked me out, I hurried and left. It's Kentucky....you can still smoke in most restaurants (except Lexington).

With all that we know today about healthy choices....I am just utterly flabbergasted at many people--especially women who, studies show die from heart attacks more than any cancer, and are the LAST people to go to doctors because they place everyone's health above there own. Duh!!!



Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
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MarySueK Posted - May 21 2008 : 4:10:31 PM
Once I was buying anchovy paste and the cashier (a teenaged girl) did the "ewww" thing at me. Maybe she thought it was like toothpaste or something?
I used to make the tofu burgers from the old "New Recipes from Moosewood" cookbook. They were good, with chopped walnuts, shredded carrots, lots of other stuff. I stopped because one time the tofu had somehow gone rancid, and I didn't really notice it until it was baking (I think I had a cold.) But our apartment REEKED and we had to open all the windows in the middle of the winter and evacuate. (And eat dinner out.) That was a lot of years ago, so I think I am brave enough to try them again. (I have made and eaten lots of other things with tofu, but not the burgers.)
DearMildred Posted - May 21 2008 : 1:40:23 PM
Right there with ya, sister!

When I lived in Cincinnati I was too dumb to go to Findlay Market - I think that was my Lean Cuisine phase. Shudder! But Reading Terminal Market in Philly is fairly similar except it's in a giant former train terminal - tons of vendors.

Here in Tulsa we have the Cherry Street Farmer's Market on Saturday mornings and it's my favorite place to grab some fresh produce and give the dog some sniffing and petting action. Tulsa is now recognizing the benefit of these markets and we have a lot more of them around town throughout the week.

~Amanda in OK~

Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered by your old nonsense. -Emerson
KYgurlsrbest Posted - May 21 2008 : 08:11:25 AM
Wow...I could die there and go to heaven!!!
It reminds me of our Findlay Market in downtown Cincy, the oldest open air market in the US. Sooo many wonderful things!!!!

I was raised by a box-mix mom, and I don't fault her for it (it was the 70's), but it did teach me how I wanted to eat when I lived out on my own. Living in a variety of environments (a house in England without refrigeration) taught me to cook "fresh" and I guess I still subscribe to the shop daily method of stopping at the green grocer and then the meat market.

Everyone can eat what they want, just don't ridicule me when I make healthy choices...I saw the two "timebombs" walking yesterday, down Greenup Street, smoking and carrying a tub of Lees Fried Chicken. I don't know what my future holds for me...maybe I'll die tomorrow, but I'm still going to take care of the one body I've been given...I don't want to be referred to as "time bomb"!!!

Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
http://www.buyhandmade.org/
DearMildred Posted - May 20 2008 : 8:30:45 PM
What a great thread! I too am surrounded by chain-smokers eating garbage. Talking to y'all reminds me, though, that not everybody is like that.

I too am a lasagna snob, I make several kinds. My favorite involves roasted veggies, homemade sauce, turkey sausage and four (!!!!) kinds of cheese, including creamy goat cheese and fresh mozzarella. That one's for special occasions, I can hardly afford all that cheese. COTTAGE cheese is NOT one of them - blech. Never thought of the bread pan thing - that makes total sense. What a great call!

I used to live in Philly and did a lot of my grocery shopping in the Italian Market neighborhood - truly one of my favorite places on earth - and boy, you just cannot get that stuff here in OK. Look at this place!


~Amanda in OK~

Tomorrow is a new day; begin it well and serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered by your old nonsense. -Emerson
mellaisbella Posted - May 20 2008 : 3:51:35 PM
Hey gals....just found this topic.....anyway, two things, one....do any of you make your own veggie burgers? and two, here on Prince Edward Island there is no smoking anywhere Period! The latest ban is no smoking within 35 feet of any public building. Just thought I'd share that all with you.

"learn to watch snails" SARK
bboopster Posted - May 18 2008 : 3:18:03 PM
I love this thread. I was raised on the faster the food the better. My mom HATED to cook. I was weird though I would open the canned veggies and eat them. Nothing fresh in our house and if it was you were allowed only one piece per day. No whole wheat or grains. Maybe that's why I have the health issues I have. On the other hand my children grew up on fresh out of the garden or fields or fresh frozen from the garden. Meat from the woods or local farmers and I loved to cook. It has been funny watching them grow and go through the fast food stage as teens but it was always short lived and my dinner table count was always going up. As their friends would come to dinner instead of them all going out for fast foods. Now that they are on their own the do cook sometimes but most often buy from the deli which I guess is better then the package. I am sure as they all get into relationships and family lives they will also go back to a more health way of life. They also LOVE TO come home to a home cooked meal as does the extended family. My mom loves it too. She doesn't have to cook. The family that I Nanny for has been in the switch to a healthier eating too but it is a slow journey. We do most of the shopping at Whole Foods which is expensive but in reality when I shop for DH and I I spend almost as much money as he loves his salty snacks and soda which are so costly.

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catscharm74 Posted - May 18 2008 : 09:16:34 AM
I forgot to mention. For a different take on the mini lasagna's and quick convenience, I sometimes by those HUGE cheese raviolis in the frozen section and you can layer those instead of lasagna noodles. It takes about 3-4 to go across the bread pan and it already has the ricotta cheese inside. I just boil them for about 5 minutes and then go to town!! You can also do a large lasagna this way. Just another idea.

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90
lisamarie508 Posted - May 16 2008 : 5:19:10 PM
I agree, Aunt Jenny. Convenience foods, especially the ones aimed at our kids are the worst invention. Those items make it so easy for parents to believe in them and buy them. They have no idea that those things are actually robbing their kids of vital nutrients. They actually believe that if their kid eats (anything) that they're ok. I've heard so many parents say, well my kid won't eat anything except _____. It's shameful that they don't just take charge of their kitchen and only stock it with healthy food. If that's all there is, believe me, they'll eat it eventually. People are so ingrained to believe the garbage they see on tv. They don't realize that the vitamins and minerals claimed to have been put into the food they're buying is artificial and can't even be absorbed by the body!

Farmgirl Sister #35

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Aunt Jenny Posted - May 16 2008 : 4:33:01 PM
I have recieved funny looks and comments when buying all sorts of veggies and fruits and organic things at the grocery store..and NO packaged things. One aquaintance actually said she NEVEr buys fresh produce since it is never on sale and she can't afford it. Hmmmmmmmm she seems to always have HER kids at the doctor..can she afford THAT? Mine never are sick at all.
My kids always get comments about the homemade foods in their lunches too. It just strikes me as sad that more kids don't get to eat healthy foods. I am constantly amazed at the amount of sugar people give their kids here...everything is coated with it, dipped in it or full of it. I know they think I am the meanest mom in town, but it isn't going to happen at my house.


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lisamarie508 Posted - May 16 2008 : 09:51:23 AM
Oh, Amie, please do ask your mom and let me know. I so want to try to get the recipe I remember. Or at least close to it.

Sorry, Jonni. We got way off topic here, huh? I do love veggie burgers. I get some flack from dh and I just keep telling him, you don't know what your missing!

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Amie C. Posted - May 16 2008 : 09:43:42 AM
Hmmm...I'm trying to picture my mom making pasta fazool (that's how I make half the things I do, I only use recipes for baking). I think it involved frying bacon, or small pieces of ham. OK, now I'm going to have to ask her this weekend.
lisamarie508 Posted - May 16 2008 : 08:28:27 AM
I'm with you on the cottage cheese. If that makes me a lasagne snob, then so be it. I think lasagne should be as it was originally intended - total Italian comfort food! Probably not very healthy, but we all have our vices.

Farmgirl Sister #35

"If you can not do great things, do small things in a great way." Napoleon Hill (1883-1970)

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catscharm74 Posted - May 16 2008 : 08:15:57 AM
Ok,,,I am a bit of a snob here- I do not believe cottage cheese belongs in lasagna.. I am sorry but I think it is gross that way. I love cottage cheese, but not in my lasagna.

The mini's let me stretch a whole box of noodles and just separate everything into 3rds and you also don't end up with any waste.

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90
lisamarie508 Posted - May 16 2008 : 08:09:12 AM
Oooooh, Heather that sounds just heavenly. I wish I had the funds to just hop on a plane whenever I wanted.

I never thought of making mini lasagne in bread pans! What a great idea! I could probably afford all the cheeses and stuff if I did it that way. AND I could have mine MY way and dh can have his HIS way! He hates riccota cheese and I hate cottage cheese; in lasagne, anyway. Can you believe they use cottage cheese in their lasagne out here! There's no flavor in it.

Oh, man, I can taste it now...

Farmgirl Sister #35

"If you can not do great things, do small things in a great way." Napoleon Hill (1883-1970)

my blog: http://lisamariesbasketry.blogspot.com/
My Website:
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catscharm74 Posted - May 16 2008 : 08:00:23 AM
I can't make it like I had when I was growing up either. I can't figure it out. I think it was the "secret touch" that I can't copy.

Lisa- just get on a plane and come down here and I will cook for you. I make mini lasagnas in the tinfoil bread pans and I freeze them. I look for coupons for the bread pans and do 3 at a time. It is just enough for the 3 of us and some extra. I use a lot of vegetables and I split a pepperoni stick between them for flavor. I make my own "sauce" with tomatoes, onions, garlic, one can tomato paste, olive oil, a little piece of pepperoni cut up really tiny for flavor.

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90
lisamarie508 Posted - May 16 2008 : 07:50:31 AM
Jonnie, Amie and Heather - STOP! You're making me crave Italian food so bad! I so miss it! There is NO real Italian food out here (well not in Utah and Idaho, anyway). Olive Garden, Macaroni Grill and Johnny Carino's just don't cut it. Folks out here have no idea what REAL Italian food is. I so love a good salami and pasta fazool (sp?) and gniocce and a good Italian lasagne! Oh, and canoli! Mmmmmmmm. I so miss those foods.

I haven't thought about it in a long time but I'm going to have to find a good recipe for pasta fazool now! I found one once and it did not taste at all like I remembered. The kind I used to get at this Italian restaurant I worked at in Niagara Falls had chunks of ham in it. Oh it was sooooooo good.

True lasagne is so expensive to make and I tried making canoli's once and they were a flop.



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"If you can not do great things, do small things in a great way." Napoleon Hill (1883-1970)

my blog: http://lisamariesbasketry.blogspot.com/
My Website:
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catscharm74 Posted - May 16 2008 : 06:41:33 AM
Amie C- That is so funny that so many people know what that is because growing up, I felt weird. I know a few basic things, but mostly just put sauce, onions, garlic, cheese and olive oil on everything and it is how I great up eating Italian. HA!!!

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90
Amie C. Posted - May 16 2008 : 05:35:49 AM
Heather, we didn't have pasta fazool very often. My mom would make it for my dad as a weekend treat once in a while. It was his Italian grandmother's recipe. She taught my mom to cook a lot of things when they were first married. More often, we got the homemade tomato sauce, the greens and beans (I make it now with tofu italian sausage), the polenta (we ate it with tomato sauce) or the little fried smelt during lent. My dad was not in touch with most of his extended family, so we didn't really grow up with a sense of being Italian. I'd like to find out more about it now.
Annab Posted - May 16 2008 : 03:35:18 AM
Amie,

Now that Subway has started carrying pizzas, I love a good 3 pepper pizza....no need for the meat.

I can remember all us kids in grade school eating homemade lunches.

PB&J was the norm and my brother when he was growing up, Mom packed him frozen yogurt and a banana. We never acted up in public!

Those Lunchables are the worst with absoutly NO nutritional value AT ALL! Instead of no time to make a decent lunch, folks can do what I did for years, both for me and my brother, and that's make it the night before!! DUUUH

AND, speaking of processed foods like that, I think studies have been done that link processed meats to cancers.

Happily, I get headaches from the MSG and sodium nitrates, so I am pretty much forced to do w/o or buy natural. Suits me fine! but I do miss a good ball park hotdog sometimes. I happy w/ the bun and just the fixin's. With the way people load up their burgers and dogs, its a wonder anyone can even taste let alone see what someone else is eating.

I was thrilld to pieces when a friend shared a few packages of homemade deer Kilebsa. what a rare treat!
Annab Posted - May 15 2008 : 03:35:02 AM
People are jsut plain ignorant and no amout of $$ can take the place of just good 'ole upbringing.

Sometimes when we do something weird or unusual people don't know what to think because its not "normal". Shoot, normal is boring in MY opinion! So they feel threatened.

Sure I used to kind of scoff at vegitarians too, then I realized that through most of college, I too had joined the ranks w/o even trying. These days my mantra is everything in moderation.

I have also known of the reverse and heard the veggie heads mock the carnivores, so it goes both ways.

People are so intolerant sometimes too

The bigger difference really, is where the stuff you eat comes from. ALL of it

Not to digress, but last Sunday I caught a blurb on 60 Minutes about the banana trade and how the gurellas were esentially paid off by the big companies. Same goes for blood diamonds that come from bad places in Africa and child labor in the clothing industry. Stuff like this bothers me far worse than what a total stranger chooses to put into their bodies
catscharm74 Posted - May 05 2008 : 8:12:58 PM
Amie- I never heard anyone else eating pasta fazool in my life- we ate it every Sunday with meatballs and on Fridays during lent. Oh my gosh!! That is so funny!!! We called it poor man's feast because between the rigatoni and white beans, you filled up!!

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90
KYgurlsrbest Posted - May 05 2008 : 8:09:46 PM
I think that's the right spelling, Amie...just do me a favor..ease into the meat if you're going to eat it! After 8 years of being a strict vegetarian, I hit the ground running and put myself at the emergency room. Although, Pasta Fazool might be worth it, if it's your gran's recipe!

Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
http://www.buyhandmade.org/
Amie C. Posted - May 05 2008 : 6:22:06 PM
My favorite school lunch treat was a slice of apple pie.

I haven't eaten meat at all in years, but I've really been wishing lately that I could get my mom to teach me my great grandmother's recipe for pasta fazool (is that spelled right?)
KYgurlsrbest Posted - May 05 2008 : 6:16:15 PM
It's too bad I've already eaten dinner this evening....salami and parmesan and bread is sounding super good right now!

I appreciate lunches that reflect your cultural heritage. Mazak is headquartered here, and they arrived from Japan in 1980 (they make stereo components for cars)...and my friend, Satomi, always brought noodles and fish, with a little thermos of tea. It was adorable. And I was always jealous.

Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
http://www.buyhandmade.org/
catscharm74 Posted - May 05 2008 : 6:09:14 PM
I was always the weird kid with the lunches, I brought homemade antipasto salad to school, I munch on the stinkiest Parmesan cheese every made and ate meatball sandwiches. YUMMY!! I might get back to my Italian roots one of these days. Charlie is like me- the weirder the food the better.

Heather

Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!

FARMGIRL #90

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