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| ivmeer |
Posted - Sep 13 2005 : 08:53:10 AM
Want to be supportive of each other? I know that people on diets (myself included) can be quite tiresome about it, talking about what they ate that day, how much they lost, etc. Does anyone else want to be tiresome with me? |
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| Whimsy_girl |
Posted - Nov 27 2005 : 9:53:48 PM
I listened to "french women dont get fat" on audiobook the other night, and it made perfect sense. It was also absolutly charming to listen to her because she had a lovely accent and discribed Paris and the wines and foods she enjoyed with Hemingway-esque detail.
I enjoyed it very much and just listening to her made me feel more relaxed about my journey, and it reinforced that I am on the right track, and lastly it made me feel like the sexy sultry woman I am...
Rowr!
you can be oh so smart, or you can be oh so positive. I wasted a lot of time being smart I prefer being positive. |
| CabinCreek-Kentucky |
Posted - Nov 21 2005 : 7:16:14 PM
" Frannie, I definitely still
have curves enough for both of us
well, chile, i sure don't need any more in the 'boob' department!
"butt" if you have some extra "butt' to donate .. i could use some there! flat as a pancake! frannie
p.s. i think if we women want to either 'lose' or 'gain' weight .. either for 'health' reasons ... and extra weight is a 'ticket to diabetes' i am told by my endocrinologist .. or even because it just makes us 'feel' better to be heavier or lighter .. that is an admirable goal. i am also a big believer in not buying into the 'perfect body image' thingie that is touted by the media and yes, even sometimes, well-meaning friends.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! (and we should all 'behold' our own unique beauty!) |
| FarrarFarmgirl |
Posted - Nov 21 2005 : 12:18:10 PM
Thanks so much for all your kind words and encouragements. I know I'm in the right place. And my goal is definitely directed towards being healthy first and enjoying the added benefits of looking better as it happens, like Mollymae said.
I can feel the ill-effects of all the added weight, like the shortness of breath, not liking to tie my shoes, aching knee joints, emerging bumps and mounds creeping down my leg, etc. Anytime I feel like something's not quite the way it should be with my health or body, my first thought is because it's due to my weight. I don't have any major health issues now, but I know I'm border line on some; BP, cholesteorl, BMI(actually way over on this one). So I get fearful that if I don't do something soon, I'm going to be dependant on medicines I wouldn't have to be, if only I had taken better care of myself.
I used to actually sell some health products. During that time, I saw a cartoon that had a powerful message with a simple picture. It had a tombstone with a grave being dug with a fork and the caption read, "We dig our grave with our forks." That is so true and that is why I said I'm fearful about being on medications I don't have to be on. NOt that medicines don't have their place for helping people be well, but if I do what I'm suppose to do health-wise, I am being preventative. If I have to be on medicines for other reasons, then so be it, but not if I can help it.
Well, I said I would give you an update of how I faired at our departmental feast. I did pretty good, didn't go back for seconds and didn't over fill my plate. We also had our Thanksgiving gathering on my dad's side of the family on Sunday. I was satisfied with one plate of food and a couple of desserts.
I have to agree with Meadowlark about the more slowly you eat the more full you feel instead of racing to finish your meal. And I think that's what happened with the two "feasts" I was busy talking or attending to grandchildren and it took longer to finish than I would if I were by myself. So I am going to make a mental note of that at each meal and give that practice a try, as well.
I've also noted that it is much easier to be "good" when I'm with a bunch of people or out than it is when I"m by myself. I know that's not a profound discovery and I'm guessing it's that way with most. What tricks of the trade or from personal experience do you use to stay on track when you are by yourself?
Thanks again for your encouragements and support and commaradary as we all work together to "gain" ourselves back and not "loose" to bad habits. Have a blessed day.
In His hands,
Lynda
Pray in faith and you will not live in doubt. |
| ivmeer |
Posted - Nov 21 2005 : 11:08:10 AM
Frannie, welcome to the thread. Wanting to gain weight to be at a healthy weight is important, too. |
| blueroses |
Posted - Nov 21 2005 : 10:43:31 AM
Lynda,
Please don't be embarrassed. We know how hard it is. We all have to love ourselves as we are and still keep trying to be at a healthy weight. At the gym where I work out, I am amazed at the group of women I've met. The ones I know all encourage each other no matter what stage we are at. Just taking a short walk or taking a class - it's all an accomplishment. Just remember that you're a beautiful person. We're all in this together.
"You cannot find peace...by avoiding life."
Virginia Woolfe |
| MeadowLark |
Posted - Nov 20 2005 : 10:29:55 AM
I want to commend these women here who are beautiful in their own right ( most American women are a size 14) and not a size 4 or 6 or 8...your honesty and openess is touching and I am cheering for you all...Most of us struggle with our images and weight...and to be able to come here and not be threatened or feel bad about it is wonderful. I don't recommend this weight loss method but having an infected jaw and TMJ can take the weight off...I have dropped 7 lbs. the past 2 weeks! I have graduated from soup and liquids to cutting my food in tiny baby bites and eating slowly. Makes a difference if I eat little portions really slow, verses wolfing the food down quickly and eating more that way...my brain must be thinking I am fuller? Hope it stays this way...but I doubt it will. The holidays are a killer...have to think differently!
If I keep a green bough in my heart, the singing bird will come. |
| mollymae |
Posted - Nov 20 2005 : 08:46:32 AM
Well Frannie, I definitely still have curves enough for both of us 
Molly
http://mollymaequilts.tripod.com
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet."~Rumi
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| CabinCreek-Kentucky |
Posted - Nov 20 2005 : 08:30:17 AM
i have always fluctuated betwen a size 0 and 4 .. sooo .. i actually wanted to gain a few pounds! when my diabetes was 'outta' control (high) .. i dropped 20 pounds (and i was already skinny!!!) in a month! now that i have 'graduated' to a Type ONE (insulin-dependent) diabetic and have my numbers in better control .. i am gaining some and feel and look healthier. am a size 6 now and that is just about where i want to be .. (wouldn't even mind being an 8). i like having CURVES! |
| mollymae |
Posted - Nov 20 2005 : 07:29:33 AM
Lynda, I had to laugh at that "recent discovery" you mentioned hearing on the radio...whoa go figure that's what it takes!  . Honestly, I have tried Weight-Watchers, and because I can't follow something that strict (the whole points thing confused me) it didn't work for me, I think I may have lost 3 lbs. on it..lol. I hear about all these "fad diets", and while they may work in the short-term if you don't have the habit of eating healthy and exercising it's going to be put back on you eventually. Since June I have now lost 30 lbs., and the main thing that has worked for me (since I'm not a big exerciser) is just cutting out the junk food (popcorn or ice cream every night) and eating smaller meal portions. It was hard at first controlling my portions, as I still felt hungry, but eventually your brain and stomach work together in that department . I still have 20 lbs. to go to my weight-goal but honestly I'm looking pretty darn good at this point! I have dropped now from a size 16 to a 10 (I haven't been a size 10 in eight or more years!). I am 5'2" though, so a healthy weight for me is definitely around 125 where I'm headed. So far I have so much more energy, I don't get winded going up and down the stairs (which I ashamedly did before), I can keep up with my little ones so much more easily. To me, the whole weight-loss thing is to be healthy, and looking better is definitely a side-advantage to it.
Happy Losing Gals!!
Molly
http://mollymaequilts.tripod.com
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet."~Rumi
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| KarenP |
Posted - Nov 20 2005 : 05:07:19 AM
I picked up The Maker's Diet, have not read it yet.
Anyone have some comments on it?
I have talked to a couple of people on it.
So far positive.
KarenP
"Purest Spring Water in the World" |
| ivmeer |
Posted - Nov 19 2005 : 3:47:12 PM
Lynda, there is no shame in having to lose a lot of weight, and there's no "bad" or "good." This is something you're doing for yourself and not to adhere to any notion of beauty. Don't beat yourself up for failures. Just look at it as something you're doing because you're worth it.
You really shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
As far as "fit for life" I've looked at it before, and I think it's garbage, because it's marketed from the cosmetic/fitness point of view rather than the medical/health point of view. Also, the guy who wrote the book merchandises his stuff (energy bars and such) pretty aggressively, when such things aren't necessary.
If we're talking about diet books that make sense, the best two I've ever read are "The Thin Game" which was written by Mayo Clinic physicians in the 1970s (and is regrettably out of print, but you can still get it on Amazon) and "What Color is Your Diet" by the UCLA medical center. |
| FarrarFarmgirl |
Posted - Nov 18 2005 : 09:06:15 AM
I'd volunteer to be the poster child for this topic, but I'm too embarrassed to say how much weight I need to loose - no one else has come close yet. It's the same ole thing, I know I need to, I know what I need to do to loose it, but I don't. I need to change my attitude and thinking in addition to my habits.
My son stopped by last night after work and was telling me about a plan that he is following. He has no weight issues, just likes to be healthy. He and I are very much alike, but I'm glad he has not inherited my weight problem. Once again, I'm embarrassed to say that many years ago I was very fit exercised regularly and was careful about what I ate. I felt good and enjoyed how I looked. I don't understand what changed, because that is all still very important to me, but I guess not enough to do what it takes. And junk food is not on my grocery list at all. I don't control portions well and I like a late night snack and I'm pretty sure I'm an emotional eater.
Well, the plan he is following is called Fit for Life. Is anyone familiar with this? It sounds good, and it sounds like there's not too much to keep track of. It does include exercise and food plan, so it also sounds balanced. I'm going to get the book and read about it and then give it a go. Pleae pray for me in this "one more last ditch effort."
I heard a news report the day before yesterday on the radio. I had to laugh, after all the years and years of research diet hype in the public and money spent in this area, it was just announced, "a resent study has now confirmed that you can't loose weight by just taking diet pills. The best way to loose weight is with a balanced diet and regular exercise." I think it's the magic we've been waiting for, girls! I got such a kick out of that. Wow, modern day discoveries amaze me more and more. hahahahaha
Well, gotta go, it's our annual Thanksgiving day potluck for our department and I'm on the committee. I'm so bad, but I promised myself I would try to be good.
I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for starting this topic and offering your understanding and support. I've come to realize that I also don't like doing this alone and won't/can't pay to join a group. So you are all the answer to my prayers.
Blessings on your day and all your willpower efforts to be healthy and live long.
In His hands,
Lynda
Pray in faith and you will not live in doubt. |
| theherblady |
Posted - Nov 18 2005 : 08:04:09 AM
I work at a major medical center and seems "Lap Band" is the newest thing...It seems they do surgery to insert some sort of ring and then approx every couple months they have an adjustment which involves inserting a needle thru the stomach into the band and injecting saline or something into it to make the opening smaller...
Seems to be the "thing" to do..but as Susan said-there are certain things you can or cant eat..
It seems to work for most...however, I agree~~There is likely a better way than a surgical option-
I am still loosing some pounds even tho I fell off the wagon a couple times~~ I am still watching my portions...and staying off the chocolate as much as possible. The key seems to be aware of what your eating..I used to be able to eat anything I wanted when I was younger..however, I think turning 40 must mess with our metabolism ~~
Jan |
| gothique |
Posted - Nov 17 2005 : 9:29:24 PM
My sister had one of those. Actually, there are several different kinds that they can do nowadays, the newer types are less invasive. Her surgery was done five or six years ago and it was the type where they make your stomach smaller and bypass the six or so feet of intestine right past the stomach (where all the absorption of nutrients takes place). She lost weight quickly and has been free of complications. But it took about three months for her stomach to really heal up from being made smaller, and she had to learn how to eat all over again. There are things she just can't eat at all anymore, and things she's learned it's not worth it to eat.
She has to take a handful of vitamins every morning for the rest of her life because of the permanently-bypassed innards.
They won't do this surgery on you unless you're 100 pounds or more over your ideal weight, what they call "morbidly obese". She just didn't think she had any other choice. I'm with you ivmeer (sorry don't know anybody's name yet), there is a better way but it involves making little changes to your lifestyle, one step at a time. Sometimes my old bad habits come sneaking up on me and I'll gain weight for a little while until I come back to my senses.
I want to get in shape so I have less of a chance of debilitating old-age stuff like osteoporosis and just simply not being able to get around and bring my groceries in like a normal person!
"Take care of the luxuries, and the necessities will take care of themselves."
-- Oscar Wilde |
| ivmeer |
Posted - Nov 17 2005 : 2:47:16 PM
Wow...and there are all these health problems associated with the bypasses...they affect what you can eat, etc. Surely there has to be a better way. |
| KarenP |
Posted - Nov 17 2005 : 2:01:40 PM
Hi everyone,
I just got back from a symposium in the Twin Cities, I met a couple of guys there I've known for 3 or 4 years.
My jaw was on the floor!
Both of them looked like ghosts! They were so thin!
I asked what was happening... they both had had gastric bi-passes in June of this year.
They had dropped about 130 each... it was shocking!
They say they feel great, but WOW that's alot of weight to drop that fast.
Is this something that popular?
They told me their boss had also had it done, they all did it with 6 weeks of each other.
I think I should just sew my mouth shut and that would be a great start!
KarenP
"Purest Spring Water in the World" |
| blueroses |
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 4:14:33 PM
Hi everyone. I'm in too. I've lost 15 pounds since May, but it seems to be going so slowly. Susan - by the way - I'm from NY too. Hudson River Valley, but live in North Idaho now. I've been exercising like mad. I take spinning classes on Mon, Tues & Thurs. Step Aerobics on Mon am & Wed. And I've been trying to eat healthy. What one of you mentioned is true. If you don't eat enough -- your body will try to hold on to fat. I also have a "free day". It's usually Sat or Sun and I allow myself to eat whatever I want. Once you know you can eat whatever you want, you seem to monitor yourself a little better.
"You cannot find peace...by avoiding life."
Virginia Woolfe |
| gothique |
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 3:51:58 PM
"...the best way to go about it is to take it slow, make life style changes, eat better foods, no junk, more whole grains, etc. And exercise is a must, even little steps turn into big steps! And having a place to vent like this is a key to success also, thanks for being here!!"
What Junebug said!
I hope I can join you ladies here. I want to finally lose about 60 pounds. I was up to 260 a few years back and have scaled down (no pun intended) to about 190, so I've lost quite a bit. It's just time to get back on the bandwagon and stick with it. I have so many exercise videos and know what I need to do and how, it's just that the "give-a-damn" factor comes and goes. I can't tell you how many times I've lost and regained the same 15 pounds in the past two or three years!
I think it's great that we can post here and motivate each other! What videos do you like to work out to? I bought Yoga Booty Ballet, it's more like dance than exercise and it really burns up the calories. I bought a series of the Tao Bo and I'm just not up to all that kicking, don't know if I will ever be... Just turned 50.
Susan
"Take care of the luxuries, and the necessities will take care of themselves."
-- Oscar Wilde |
| ivmeer |
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 2:10:02 PM
It's ok, Jan, I blew the whole weekend. It all started when I made roast beef for dinner on Friday night. I've been keeping kosher for 6 years and haven't had roast since. Kosher beef is prohibitively expensive. Last week at the store, I found a roast that was on sale from $8.49 a pound (I know, totally unreasonable) to $5.49. The thing still cost me over $17, but I bought it. (I even called my husband on the phone to ask him if it was too expensive. He told me to buy every roast in the store and put them in the freezer. We compromised and I only bought one)
So we have this 3 1/2 pound roast and we ate that on Friday night, as well as sandwiches on Saturday, and I ate more of it for lunch today. I still have more than half of it left. It was totally worth it. Saturday night we met friends and went out for pizza, and it was deep dish pizza, which I love. Then we went back to their house to play board games and they took out candy and popcorn.
Yesterday we went to Milwaukee for a model train show. We ate at a diner in the morning, and afterwards, we stopped at cheese shops and browsed. I of course sampled stuff. Then we came home and ate leftover pizza.
The good news is I didn't appear to put on any significant amount of weight over the weekend (I'm at about 158, now, 7 pounds down from what I was a few months ago). I also went running today, and I'm definitely finding it easier than I used to.
I should take inspiration from a friend of mine. It took her like 2 years to lose 40 pounds, but she lost them by eating healthy, controlling her portions, and exercising. She looks great. Yeah, it took a long time, but the loss is permanent. |
| theherblady |
Posted - Nov 14 2005 : 12:57:15 PM
Ok-I blew it today~~ We had "snack day" at work today and I HAD to try everything~~
Guess I'll get back on track tomorrow..
Didnt get a chance to mention..Last week , when I opened my salad container I bring to work, There was a worm inside...I generally buy the pre cut, bagged salad mix....It wasn't just a little worm...it was like a small tomato worm !!!! Yucky~~ And--It was still alive and well!!
At least it wasnt a half-o-worm!
It will be awhile before I can eat salad mix again...Head lettace is probably better for me anyway...
Jan |
| junebug |
Posted - Nov 09 2005 : 11:22:40 AM
I love "The biggest Loser", not only does it get you motivated, but you learn all the tricks of the trainers and how to eat better which is the secret to any good diet. I've read so much on dieting, from one extreme to the next, and come to realize, the best way to go about it is to take it slow, make life style changes, eat better foods, no junk, more whole grains, etc. And exercise is a must, even little steps turn into big steps! And having a place to vent like this is a key to success also, thanks for being here!!
" Age is mind over matter, if you don't mind, it dont' matter"
www.countrypleasures.motime.com |
| theherblady |
Posted - Nov 09 2005 : 10:43:55 AM
Hey Jan~~from another Jan....I have been watching the Biggest Loser -I am not much for reality tv -but I think this one has such good motive..I cant believe the pounds those people have lost!..and how different they look!!What a major acomplishment for them~Dr Jeff has been the most remarkable to me...
Jan (from Illinois) |
| ivmeer |
Posted - Nov 09 2005 : 08:25:57 AM
Jan, if it makes you feel better, I read an article in a magazine about how much damage you really do from going off your diet. The article described a pretty extreme case: suppose you eat a pint of ice cream and 2 packs of M&M's in a night. According to the article, if you assume that you'd already reached your baseline needs for the day before you started eating the sweets, you'd be consuming a whopping 1,500 calories over for the day. That translates to a half a pound of fat. Not that much.
So go to the Thanksgiving table hungry, eat a little dessert after dinner, don't pig out on leftovers for a week, and don't weigh yourself for a while. I bet it won't do nearly as much damage as you think. |
| owwlady |
Posted - Nov 09 2005 : 08:20:15 AM
Congratulations Molly! You must be doing something right...I finally broke through this morning and lost another pound. I actually got off my couch and did some aerobics, maybe that did it. Does anyone watch "The Biggest Loser"? I can't believe how much those people lose in a week...10, 13lbs. I realize they're working out day and night, but that still is a lot to lose in one week. Jan |
| theherblady |
Posted - Nov 09 2005 : 07:43:14 AM
I am also trying to lose weight~~ I have been having breakfast of cereal, mid morning snack of boiled egg and dry toast.Some of the whole grain and poppy seed is really good all by itself..Then a salad with some turkey lunch meat or something with another boiled egg-really makes it yummy and cuts down on my bread intake since I am not making a sandwhich...Then another mid noon snack of yogurt or fruit and a little peanut butter..and then dinner..Portions, portions, portions~~ I cut back on my dinner portion and not having to sacrifice my meal..
I need to loose about 30 lbs...and I have lost about 13..
Just in time for Thanksgiving!!! I may not be having smaller portions that day!!
Good luck and congrats to all who are trying to lose the extra pounds...
Jan |
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