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| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 02 2011 : 09:36:33 AM
Hi anybody have any advise on what I need to do for a baby goat born monday I just recieved him today,they said he had two feedings of mothers milk by bottle.she dried up then they fed him milk replacer and brought him to me he is urinating and having normal bowel movments but he is swelling in his legs, I called the vet and waiting an answer thought maybe you ladys would have some info?
Penny |
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| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Mar 03 2011 : 04:27:03 AM
We have an appointment next week at the vets.He didnt like the banding said there was to much risk of infection,the only reason I even thought about it is because the person I got him from does all his goats and sheep that way and said he would do him.I personally have never had any til now that needed done they were done before I got them, its always been horses or dogs.
He is spoiled rotten hes still in the house running everywere chewing everything,I had to put diapers on him to keep up with his mess,they work great!Hope warm weather gets here sone I won't have a house left.
Penny |
| RedHoopWoman |
Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 07:36:01 AM
Hi Penny,
It's a good idea to have your vet do it,when you have a single animal it's not so expensive but when you have alot of them to do you can run into a big cash outlay to do so.
I've had all my horses castrated by a vet though I know some ranchers who still do it the old "tie am and throw them down" way,I don't think it's necessarily bad to do it that way but I prefer to skip all the trauma and have them put under.
Castration is soemthing I think most people should watch a few times before they actually take the knife and do it theirselves,it's not difficult but seeing it done will clarify the steps rather than cutting blind.
I know banding does work for some people but given the choice between that or the vet I would take the vet for sure.
Whatever method,he looks like such a sweet little guy and has already had a hard time getting started in life,if you can make his castration a gentler experience then I think that's a very good thing!
"Today's Mighty Oak is just Yesterday's Nut" |
| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 04:05:18 AM
Thanks for all the info ladys,Ive never had a goat castrated before always been horses and we put them under,and several people around this area talked about banding the goats and sheep,just checking out my options I'll probably have the vet do it as I have no tools to do it properly.Now that hes over all his problems I need to get it done soon. Thanks again Penny |
| RedHoopWoman |
Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 9:20:20 PM
Hi Penny,
I have always used surgical castration,every year I work on local cow calf operations and castrate a large number of calves as well as do all my goats and have never had a problem with this method.
I like to castrate them very young as there is more of a risk of bleeding the older the animal gets and I think it's more painful too,if I am doing an older animal then I like to clamp or pinch the cord before I scrape it in order to ensure it doesn't bleed excessively.
I generally make an inch long incision with a very fine and small knife and ease out the testicle and pull it until it breaks,if it is a little tougher then I scrape the cord lightly back and forth until it breaks,never just cut it,the animal will bleed and I think the less cuts you make the less chance of infection.
The most important thing is to ensure that you don't leave a length of cord that will protrude from the empty scrotal sack,this is sloppy and likely to wick infection,make sure that the remainder of the cord dissapears back inside the sac.
You want sufficiently large incisions to allow drainage,you don't want a tiny cut that will seal up quickly and wall in fluids,you want to see some drainage,first it will be pinkish then progress to amber colored,this is normal,any white or yellow color or rank smell is infection.
I usually cut the animal and have it over within seconds then I spray it with iodine and give a tetanus shot.
A burdizzo emasculator is another good method though I don't use it,if you're going to use this method buy a good quality instrument rather than a cheap one.
I would not bother with banding,there is a higher risk of infection,it isn't any kinder and prolongs the ordeal for the animal though some people do use this method and like it so I wouldn't write it off entirely,it just isn't my preferred method.
I'm not a vet but I have castrated alot of various animals,if you are at all unsure of the procedure then I would recommend having your vet do it or someone very experienced,the quicker and faster you can get it done the better but it's not technically difficult and easy to learn if you've got good nerve and resolve to do it.
The only painkiller I would recommend would be aspirin,oftentimes the best painkiller is to offer a bottle or turn them back out to have a tug on a teat,they seem to instantly get over thier troubles that way.
Good luck to you!
"Today's Mighty Oak is just Yesterday's Nut" |
| rksmith |
Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 6:12:53 PM
we've never put out babies (older animals yeah)My dad always says that if you know what you're doing it takes longer to give the shot than cut,so he never gives anything for pain and it is super fast. The ones we've cut have not had any problems and are usually running around fine within a minute or so.
Rachel
Do not ask the Lord to guide your footsteps, if you are not willing to move your feet--Dr. Kioni
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| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 06:29:52 AM
Okay here is my other question three of you all said cut and pull,is the animal put out or any pain blocker given? |
| rksmith |
Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 5:14:34 PM
Nelson is too cute!! Glad he is doing better. When we castrate any animals we cut and pull. We also time it with the moon..doing so when
leo is in the feet of the zodiac man will have less bleeding and better healing. Check the Farmer's Almanac for the zodiac man.
Rachel
Do not ask the Lord to guide your footsteps, if you are not willing to move your feet--Dr. Kioni
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| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 3:08:49 PM
Hi Kris
he got frost bite before I got him, hes was born I when it was freezing and they did not find him til the next day,I guess they didnt know the doe was bred they had just bought her last year. so he was a suprize.Penny |
| sherrye |
Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 07:18:44 AM
oh penny, what a fine story and wonderful finish to a real struggle. you are very sweet to save him. i like cut and pull also. hope you all have fine days sherrye
the learn as we go silk purse farm
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| kristin sherrill |
Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 05:49:29 AM
Penny, I want him. He is adorable. I have got to find a good Nubian buck for my Sandy. I hope I can find a handsome one like Nelson. How did he get frostbite? And are you going to disbud him?
I have a friend who is a vet tech. She comes here and castrates my bucks. She cuts and pulls which is the best way in my opinion. She sprays with Furall real good. There is minimal bleeding depending on age. If it's done sooner not much at all. They heal much quicker. I have banded before and almost killed a buck. It got so infected and had to go to the vet. I will NEVER do that again. It will always be cut and pull for me.
I am so glad he's going to pull through this. Poor guy. What a way to begin life. He is so cute.
Kris
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| amomfly |
Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 04:44:31 AM
I am so glad to hear he is doing so good.
He is so cute!
You are so lucky to have such a wonderful buddy!
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| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 03:37:32 AM
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Hello everyone I thought I would update Nelsons progress,he is growing like crazy,running and now climbing everything.he did loose his ear tips due too frost bite as you cane see in the pic.all the joints on his legs that were swollen the hair fell out, his horns are growing,over all he is doing great.now the next thing would be to get him fixed, what methods do you girls use?
Penny |
| wooliespinner |
Posted - Feb 19 2011 : 05:17:01 AM
Penny so glad for the update. I know its been a long haul for you both. Glad for the both of you he is thriving. You have been so good to him. Hugs to you both.
Linda
Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats |
| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 19 2011 : 05:11:55 AM
Update on Nelson ,its nothing but playtime hes racing through the house chewing on the dogs hair quick nap and we're off again everthing is a big taste test.it looks like his left front knee will give him some problems later he will limp on it once in a while.hes growing hes getting as tall as squirt.so far so good will post pics.Thanks again everyone for your support Nelson sends Hugs!
Penny |
| violetrose |
Posted - Feb 15 2011 : 5:35:18 PM
Penny, I'm so happy that Nelson is better - He is so cute. You have been a wonderful "Mom" to him, I know he appreciates all you have done to make him well:) Still keeping you and Nelson in my prayers for a full recovery.
Hugs, Ruth
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| grace gerber |
Posted - Feb 15 2011 : 07:20:17 AM
Exciting news and I am so relieved that the little guy is on the mend. It is so hard to watch them suffer... Give him a hug from me.
Grace Gerber
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| sherrye |
Posted - Feb 15 2011 : 06:25:37 AM
yipee, i am so glad hes doing better. does he have a name now? happy days sherrye
the learn as we go silk purse farm
farm girl #1014
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| wooliespinner |
Posted - Feb 15 2011 : 06:20:19 AM
Relieved to hear the good news!!! I bet you are so relieved. I was worried the infection was still there from the symptons he had and thats why I brought up maybe switching meds. Thank goodness you don't have to do that. So glad he is eating better and maybe now you can relax mentally.You both take good care.
Linda
Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats |
| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 15 2011 : 04:58:22 AM
Back from the vets this morning got a good report,his infection is gone now we have to deal with the damage and soreness to his joints,the vet said it would probably take about a month for that to happen, in the mean time he said to give asprin when needed for the soreness.he is much better today still eating and going to the bathroom,I think the penicillin was making him feel sick since thats done he acts alot better. thank you everyone for your support I'll keep you updated and more pictures.
Penny |
| wooliespinner |
Posted - Feb 13 2011 : 2:16:12 PM
Penny,
I have had a baby goat on Banamine for about 1 1/2 weeks for a fever but never more than that. I wonder if switching him to prednazone for short term would do his joints better. I also wonder if the penicillin is only partly taking care of his problem. Just a suggeston but wonder if a 7 to 10 day course of Naxell would be better. Just a thought I am surely no expert but when something is not totally solving the problem maybe a new course of action would be better. He sounds like he has joint ill and its hard to kick. Anyway hope you figure something out with the vet and best of luck. I know you are very worried.
Prayers and hugs.
Linda
Raspberry Run Farm
Nubian Dairy Goats |
| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 13 2011 : 05:32:26 AM
Has anyone every had a goat on banamine long term?the problem we are having now is Nelson is good when the banamine is working when it wears off, he doesnt whant to move or eat,and we are giving it everyother day,now its not lasting that long, this morning he would not eat and he had a shot yesterday, so i gave him another and as soon as it takes affect he wanted to eat, this is breaking my heart! we go back to the vets tuesday i dont know what else to do.
Penny |
| RedHoopWoman |
Posted - Feb 12 2011 : 8:45:21 PM
I'm glad to hear he's doing better,he is sure is a handsome little guy,you're sure doing right by him,I'm sure he'll get to walking better and get over his pains with time,you're doing a great job!
"Today's Mighty Oak is just Yesterday's Nut" |
| sherrye |
Posted - Feb 11 2011 : 6:56:43 PM
oh thank you for the pic. sooo very cute thats a sweet dog for sure. happy days he is better sherrye
the learn as we go silk purse farm
farm girl #1014
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| violetrose |
Posted - Feb 11 2011 : 6:12:59 PM
I just found this post - Penny that photo is priceless - what a good Mama she is to Nelson. Now that I found this, I'll be praying for a speedy recovery!
Hugs, Ruth
Farmgirl Sister # 1738
God loves each one of us as if there were only one of us!
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| Penny Dyke |
Posted - Feb 11 2011 : 3:19:44 PM
Here is a updated picture mama squirt and baby nelson chilling..JPG) |
