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| brightmeadow |
Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 7:44:08 PM
Anyone hired someone to work on your farm enterprise? It seems like such a big huge deal to get an employer id and have to worry about unemployment compensation, social security taxes and everything else involved with being an employer.
Sometimes I think the barrier to going into business for myself is that I cannot possibly do all the work myself, but really hate to think about all the red tape.
I've thought about hiring self-employed contractors - is that kosher?
You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands - You shall be happy and it shall be well with you. -Psalm 128.2
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| MsCwick |
Posted - Nov 08 2006 : 12:47:29 PM
That info from greyghost is correct. You cannot pay them hourly, you would have to pay them "by the job", and they also have to submit invoices to you, not with hours, but with tasks completed. You could print them up blank invoices to fill out each week. And the DO have to use their own things, but if it were just a tractor once a week, I presonally wouldn't worry about it. |
| greyghost |
Posted - Nov 08 2006 : 07:15:05 AM
Do check with your accountant about hiring subcontractors. There are rules and regulations to it. You cannot call them employees, because they are NOT. I think you also have to be careful about how you talk to them, you have to look at them as separate business owners and not demand that they stay late. I believe, like in my case (I am a marketing/design firm about to expand into hiring), they have to use their own equipment, not my computers - at least that is how I understand it. |
| MsCwick |
Posted - Nov 06 2006 : 6:05:45 PM
If you get an Employer ID number, you need to be incorporated, or an LLC, or a sole proprietor or a partnership. Once you have filed the necessary paperwork with a lawyer to become a business, you can file for an EIN. It's not hard to get an EIN, in fact the IRS gave us ours over the phone. What you could do is file a 1099 on your worker(s) you would have to get them to fill out a W9 BEFORE starting work. When you do this, you are not responsible for withholding all that tax money, what happens is they claim your pay as their income and pay taxes on it themselves. They would be considered a subcontractor. We have filed in the tax bracket Sub Chapter S so that we are only taxed once, and the money we pay someone ends up being a tax deduction at the end of the year. |
| Libbie |
Posted - Nov 06 2006 : 05:58:54 AM
Yes - MJF does do something similar - I spent a week at the Pay Dirt Farm School last year, and it was a wonderful "hands-on" farm school. Maybe you could advertise as needing help in return for room and board or the like?
XOXO, Libbie
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| Leezard |
Posted - Nov 06 2006 : 05:06:11 AM
MaryJane does something very similar having interns, if I recall correctly from what I've read. |
| brightmeadow |
Posted - Nov 06 2006 : 04:44:20 AM
Wow those goat people must be great salespersons! What a concept!
You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands - You shall be happy and it shall be well with you. -Psalm 128.2
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| Bluewrenn |
Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 8:35:55 PM
I don't know what's involved, but the goat dairy near us has "apprentices" who work without pay, or with very little compensation just for the thrill and for the experience.
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| Libbie |
Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 8:23:49 PM
Like Liz, I think hiring independent contractors might be the way to go - Does Ohio have a Small Business Development Center? I know that Utah has centers like that in several different cities, and I'll bet they can give you some information that's really specific to what you're thinking of. How exciting to be thinking about expanding your farm!!!
XOXO, Libbie
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| Leezard |
Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 8:09:39 PM
I believe the farm I've done some work here and there for has other people work for them as contract workers, I think that's what I was considered when I did some office work for them earlier this year. I was paid an hourly rate and they didn't take out any taxes or anything of that sort. I'm not sure what the pros or cons or what regulations on it would be but I could try to speak to one of the owners and get their perspective on it. |
