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| Fiddlehead Farm |
Posted - Aug 14 2011 : 09:40:13 AM
http://bobmccarty.com/2011/08/10/anonymous-call-to-new-animal-abuse-hotline-leads-to-raid-on-colorado-womans-rabbit-farm/
There is a difference between pet rabbits and meat rabbits. Some pet rabbit group called animal control on this woman. She raises her rabbits very well. Animal Control confiscated her rabbits because she couldn't pay the fine and now her rabbits are not in a better place.
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| FieldsofThyme |
Posted - Oct 01 2011 : 06:35:45 AM
I did not read the entire story, but too bad we can't contact this woman and invite her to this forum.
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| andwhathaveya |
Posted - Sep 21 2011 : 8:30:41 PM
That made me want to cry! What kind of person would make animals live in those conditions? Oh, I'm mad!
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| marthajane |
Posted - Sep 15 2011 : 01:43:38 AM
Oh BTW did you ever hear the saying death is not the worst of evil? and also, has anyone here ever tried to lose weight?
you can be starving and hungry for a long long time before you become emaciated...
I thought a little more about it could be worse. No it couldnt, those animals suffered it all, real suffering, and then death? thats it folks, as bad as it CAN get.
yes, i hope the people responsible for this kind of thing are forced into a life where they have to confess and deal with their issues, and perhaps prevented from being "left off the hook" until they do. In other words, given all the time they need to come up with an answer to satisfy those of us who they have offended.
Have I been over thinking this?
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| marthajane |
Posted - Sep 15 2011 : 01:22:23 AM
I didnt actually read any of the links, just chiming in to a topic of interest to me...I dont mean to sound harsh but its true the "humane" people have not got it all figured out, or there wouldnt be SOOOOOOO many problems, yeah I know people love to say it could be worse, sure thats possible.
OK so point Im trying to make is, if there was a sense of animals being endangered, and someone knew about it and did nothing..........points to whats it going to be a constantly picking up after people, who dont know what to do when overwhelmed.
And there are lots of stories like that.
Education, hello! I once heard of something called 4H in college, no idea what thats all about.
But something like that, you know, for EVeryone, wouldnt that help change things for the better?
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| oldbittyhen |
Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 6:02:55 PM
Martha, I think you need to re-read the story, according to the post I made, its the true story of what happened. Beleive me, the humane people were in there and doing their jobs as soon as they knew there was a problem,this second time in was the follow up, which shows she did nothing more for them, the original link in the 1st post in this thread was not the truth, and Fiddlehead Farm did not know that till after she posted...also turning the rabbits lose, would have been a death sentece for them all, especialy the condition they all were in...
"Knowlege is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad" |
| marthajane |
Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 5:30:48 PM
well if the woman was fined already, hopefully meaning there was a detailed investigation and notes made, then why did the humane people neglect to give her place a follow up
this is what sucks bc there are just people picking up after, in this case the lives of those little creatures.
why didnt she turn them loose would have been more humane than to keep them confined.
actually i think these humane people should themselves be fined if they neglect to use their thought processes at work and apply their selves to be thorough and committed to protecting these animals.
after all theyre doing a job someone is waiting to do, and why should they not do their best?
oh, i could go on and on
take care all and god bless, pray for the animals too, they are in need too
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| batznthebelfry |
Posted - Aug 20 2011 : 2:13:33 PM
Ok this made me sick & mad....the photos they took are so bad I am surprised any were still alive.....question is...how hard is it to water & feed a rabbit or rabbits...or to dust off the fan in there.....I have raised rabbits & that much poo means months of no cleaning......its also amazing they weren't blind from the urine that had built up.....definitely no meat rabbits that I saw in the pics & even if there was that is no way to take care of them...can you image what deceases those rabbits might be carrying that could hurt anyone that would eat them...Yuck...double yuck...what gets me is this woman will probably get out of most of the fines & then go back to doing this again once she thinks the coast is clear....I also wonder if this woman isn't some type of hoarder from the amount of cages/rabbits she had.....gives all us humane treating people a bad name.....Michele'
Chickens rule!
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| oldbittyhen |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 7:07:39 PM
Cris, I do not think there is a farmgirl here that would treat any of their animals; livestock or pets that way. I raise cal/new zeland crosses for meat, and they are in the same barn as my kids 4-H projects were back when, which included meat and fancy...all registered and yes some went to championship at the fairs. I believe that "Debe Bell" was in it for the money, and when the economy tanked, and rabbits were no longer selling, she just did not care anymore, and the results were the story the pictures told, shame, shame on her, and all others like her...
"Knowlege is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad" |
| chickenladycris |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 6:57:07 PM
Wow. Okay, if those pictures are truly from the same farm as the blogger post, that is waaaaaaaaaaay different story than the initial blogging described! Yikes. No wonder why they were seized, and how interesting there aren't any meat rabbits shown...when that was the thrust of the blogger's post (among other things, like bashing the house rabbit group).
Anyhow, my commentary about "knowing your meat & treating it nicely" still stands!  I promise, it may look a little fur-crazy in there right now (as one of my angoras is shedding like a banshee), but my rabbits will NEVER have to survive in conditions as described in those pictures....eeesh.
"A farmgirl can never have enough chickens!"--me |
| oldbittyhen |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 6:28:37 PM
Diane, this story was sent to me by a friend, who will remain un-named who works undercover with the Humane dept, I had asked if she knew about this women and her rabbits and she said she would check it out for me, and today sent me the news story, cause it was way more than she could send me personaly, other wise she could blow her undercover status, she said this women has been fined in the past, but this was the worst anyone had seen, there wasn't a meat rabbit on the place, they were either dwarfs or fiber types, many were so sick and had maggots due to hock rot, lack of water and starvation that a huge amount of them were euthanized, several private vets helped out do to the amount of rabbits and even seasoned humane officers were gaging and the tears were there...the pictures tell the story...
"Knowlege is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad" |
| Fiddlehead Farm |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 6:08:56 PM
Tina,
Thanks, you just don't know who to believe. The other story is from a reputable link, but if those are truly her rabbits in the photos, then I apologize. They are not treated well and should have been seized. I treat my rabbits very well. I grow fresh fruit and veggies for them and clean their cages regularly. They give me the best fertilizer for my garden.
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farmgirl sister #922
Don't go with the flow...you are the flow.
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White |
| oldbittyhen |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 5:51:35 PM
Ok, all you need to do to get the photos regarding this women's rabbits is : google "Huffpost Denver", and then in their search engine, type in : "Debe Bell", be prepared, the photos will make you sick...this women is coming up with a lot of differant stories/lies on why her rabbits were in the condition they were in...
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| Fiddlehead Farm |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 4:47:04 PM
Tina,
I would like to see that link please.
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farmgirl sister #922
Don't go with the flow...you are the flow.
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White |
| oldbittyhen |
Posted - Aug 19 2011 : 11:32:35 AM
A friend just sent me a link to this story, with lots of photos, and I truely believe that she is guilty of what she is being charged with, #1 the rabbits that are in the photos are not meat rabbits, they are dwarfs and fiber rabbits, #2 the cages these rabbits were in were so disgustingly filthy, that I am amazed that there were not alot more dead rabbits in their cages, #3 the fiber rabbits were soooooooooo matted, you could not tell what end was what, and I could go on and on...so if any of you want me to email you the link, let me know, cause I don't know how to post it here...
"Knowlege is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad" |
| MEWolf |
Posted - Aug 17 2011 : 06:23:42 AM
Such a sad state of affairs  Cris you nailed it! I feel the same way. I tell people: "If you are not brave enough to know and accept where your meat comes from, better become a vegetarian!" Humans are at the top of the food chain. And animals that are raised with loving care, and that are happy pass that along to the humans who eat them. I wish there was not such a disconnect between people and the food they eat 
Margaret
“Kind hearts are the gardens, kind thoughts are the roots, kind words are the flowers, kind deeds are the fruits. Take care of your garden and keep out the weeds, fill it with sunshine, kind words and kind deeds.” ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1808-1882)
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| Fiddlehead Farm |
Posted - Aug 17 2011 : 05:54:59 AM
I will follow and update.
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farmgirl sister #922
Don't go with the flow...you are the flow.
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White |
| walkinwalkoutcattle |
Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 4:34:46 PM
I'd love an update on this story-where it goes.
Farmgirl #2879 :)
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| chickenladycris |
Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 2:45:50 PM
I want to add: I have GREAT respect for the families who own or operate commercial farms. Around here, there are literally hundreds of farms that stay afloat because they contract with a large corporation that provides much of the turkey meat available to the US & Canada. Because they need the money to provide for their family, and keep the family farm running, they need to work with the agency that will KEEP them in business. I just think it is a sad, sad thing that our society allows corporations to dictate the "right" way to provide food to the nation, and makes the family farm become an environment that puts the livestock in a very stressful, not-nice situation before it becomes food. I don't think many folks get into or stay in farming with this kind of a "mass production" vision to the animals they will raise...
I, however, cannot stomach eating that meat after I have seen the conditions that it lived in, for it's entire life. (Oooooh, it just gives me the shivers!!) So, I am taking a personal stand and raising my own, and talking with people about "why do I do it?" when I can (and feel non-threatened doing so!)
I really must stop ranting. It must be the weather...or the topic...
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| Fiddlehead Farm |
Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 2:29:00 PM
Cris,
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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farmgirl sister #922
Don't go with the flow...you are the flow.
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White |
| chickenladycris |
Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 2:25:02 PM
I am very selective as to who I share with, that I keep rabbits for meat. I also raise chickens for meat, and nobody gets overwrought about that, but when I say "and rabbits", there is this little gasp of dismay. I can't help thinking, okay. I get it. Fuzzy cute bunny, it is hard to wrap your brain around EATING that bunny. But, then those people turn around and buy cellophane meat from the grocery store and feed it to their kids, and I go: ewwww. Do you KNOW what happened to that meat, before it was on your plate? The way we treat animals in commmerical feed lots and slaughter houses is appalling, but I'm a "bad person" because I choose to care for humanely, keep clean & tidy & cool in the hot days, treat with decency and kindness, my meat rabbits up until the day that they are fulfilling their purpose to become my dinner. If animal rights activitists and humane society bureaucrats thought it through, their focus should be on the system that makes it "okay" to treat mass-produced chickens, pigs, and cattle like trash before they become society's dinners.
Okay. Sorry for the rant. This just makes me soooooooo mad!!!!!
"A farmgirl can never have enough chickens!"--me |
| paradiseplantation |
Posted - Aug 16 2011 : 05:58:33 AM
Okay. I just want to throw up. Sorry to be so blunt, but this just makes me ill, straight to my very marrow. And terrifies me. We use our animals for food as well as compost for our veggies. To be honest, they are spoiled rotten, but at all times they are cared for (sometimes better than we care for ourselves)and always treated with dignity and respect. And to think that someone could just walk in and take them? Not a good thing.
from the hearts of paradise...
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| alterationsbyemily |
Posted - Aug 15 2011 : 8:16:34 PM
Seriously the rabbits need air conditioning?! I don't have air conditioning in my home and I have two kids, does it make me a bad parent?
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| walkinwalkoutcattle |
Posted - Aug 15 2011 : 07:58:52 AM
You know I saw a "Time" magazine that touted farming as the new up and coming BIG moneymaking business.
Yeah, right. With stuff like this happening insurance rates will go up so high it'll be impossible to make anything unless you're a HUGE, BIG time farmer.
Let me just say it: We can't treat our cow herds and our chickens and our rabbits like children! It's too time consuming and expensive! Yes, my cattle are free range, one is even a pet. My chickens are free range, come when you call them, but when it's 90 degrees outside I can't afford to air condition them! Really?! This story makes me so mad! Soon we'll be required to dress our animals (Beyond blanketing a horse) and tuck them in at night!
Farmgirl #2879 :)
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| Alee |
Posted - Aug 15 2011 : 05:41:54 AM
That is CRAZY! I am shocked that they would be on her property without a search warrant. I hope her lawyer is able to get this resolved. Law enforcement needs an education campaign from food producers that take good care of their animals to offset the "pet" education that other groups give. Not every animal is or should be a pet.
Alee
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| Fiddlehead Farm |
Posted - Aug 15 2011 : 05:00:18 AM
Brandee,
That is what we do too! We don't let anyone know our business, especially our rabbits. We don't sell them, they are just for our consumption.
Our 4H fair still has rabbits for meat shown. PETA was there protesting the rodeo, but they didn't protest the animals sold for meat.
The rodeo is a "show rodeo". The animals are treated like stars!
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farmgirl sister #922
Don't go with the flow...you are the flow.
I get up every morning determined to both change the world and have one hell of a good time. Sometimes this makes planning my day difficult.
- E. B. White |
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