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Across the Fence:  Simplifying Life...Suggestions Please  |
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ashcordes
True Blue Farmgirl
197 Posts
Ashley
Roann
IN
USA
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 Posted - Jan 10 2007 : 12:45:23 PM
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I have an overwhelming need to simplify everything right now...get rid of the clutter around our house, donate clothes that I don't wear often and simplify my closet, etc.
Anyone have any suggestions? Where to start, how best to organize things, closets especially? |
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faithymom
True Blue Farmgirl
360 Posts
Faith
Sandpoint
ID
USA
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Posted - Jan 10 2007 : 1:02:43 PM
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There are numerous books I have read on the subject.
One of my favorites:
Not For Packrats Only by Don Aslett, any of his books are great!
I like the daily 15 minutes of de-cluttering from FlyLady www.flylady.net She has a book also, Sink Reflections by Marla Cilley
Check out www.organizedhome.com for other good tips. The editor also has a book called House Works by Cynthia Townley Ewer. I haven't read the book yet, but it is next on my list of purchases.
Hope these are helpful. Just remember that no book is going to DO it for you! (OK, so I guess I'm reminding myself...)
I'd love to hear updates on how it's progressing,
Faith
"All television is educational television. The only question is, what is it teaching?"-Fmr. FCC Commissioner Nicholas Johnson |
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KYgurlsrbest
True Blue Farmgirl
4853 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Jan 10 2007 : 1:05:40 PM
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I'm going to jump in here because we've been doing this for the last two weekends--
My rule of thumb for cleaning out closets is pretty mercenary, so I don't necessarily recommend it if you're faint of heart, or really love clothing. I usually find that I get rid of things that often still have tags on them--bought on clearance, never worn, nothing to match or stuff that just doesn't fit right (or anymore). In short, if I haven't worn it in a year, then it goes in the pile...that's the same for all drawers of clothing, too, and shoes if they are still in good shape. Especially very specific shoes for certain outfits that are long gone--out of there. At this point, I don't ask my husband what he wants or doesn't want because he has too many clothes that go unworn, and too many books and magazines. They all go if they're stacked away somewhere. We've been together 6 years and he's never asked me where something was that I'd given away....
I purge my gadget drawers and cooking things, too. I've been holding onto large spoons and specialty baking tins--things I've never used--serving utensils that take up too much space and get caught up in the drawer everytime I shut it...stuff like that. I even scan the walls for things I'm tired of looking at. Someone else will like it....
I used to hold out and give things to friends, including furniture that I didn't want or use, but I get tired of waiting on them to come and get it. When I want it gone, I want it gone.
I have to tell you it's very liberating and can get a little dangerous when you drop a load off and walk in to your house thinking "I bet I can get rid of a little more...."
It's quite literally my favorite time of year :)
Just think of all of the roads there are...all of the things I haven't seen....yet. |
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bramble
True Blue Farmgirl
2044 Posts
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Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 09:32:24 AM
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I have been a notorious "collector" of everything that I think I will someday use in a project. I got to the point a few years ago where I didn't know where anything was to DO the project! Now keep in mind my old cottage has ONE closet that is between two bedrooms.
A small attic you can only stand in half of and no basement. We do have several good size out buildings but they have been claimed by dh and son. So being an accumulator needed some fine tuning. I started to organize EVERYTHING in the house. Sort, toss, give to GoodWill etc... it had to have a specific space and purpose if it was going to stay. After that I made a list of everything craft related I had and a seperate list of projects that went into my purse. Now I start a project and only allow myself one other to be ongoing so that I will finish them and move on. As for clothes, most of us hold on to things we won't wear again (if ever) so I have taken Jonni's approach one step further. If I didn't wear it enough to make it worth packing up at the end of the season, it goes to the homeless shelter. The clothes are current, not worn out and they are being put to good use. I buy a good portion of my clothes at the Thrift so I am not out alot of money either.
Food is a little tougher, but cooking from scratch is still the best
as far as I'm concerned for value ($$$$ and nutrition) and you can
decide when you want something "added". If you garden, that will be an added bonus , especially if you can.
For me, it helped to be very organized and know what I had, didn't want and what I still might need. I also carry a list with measurements of things like screen/storm doors, sink measurements etc so when I come across the right thing at a yard sale , flea market, etc...I can take advantage of the "bargain". Hope that helps some, have fun finding all the stuff you forgot you had!
with a happy heart |
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BarefootGoatGirl
True Blue Farmgirl
1495 Posts
Corrine
North Carolina
USA
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Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 09:52:17 AM
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My best weapon is hubby. When it comes to clothing if he doesnt like it, it goes (he is very picky). When I am tempted to grab that clearance or thrift dress I ask myslef rather or not he will like it (does it fit in a the way he likes--modest but not frumpy...got to have a clearly defined waist). As for all my craft stuff (a friend of mine refers to it as arts and crap), I recently asked him what I should spend time and money on and what I should start purging. He voted in favor of all my sewing and needlework, banishing the misc. craft supplies that take up tons of room.
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Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds. Proverbs 27:23 |
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Nance in France
True Blue Farmgirl
1438 Posts
Nancy
St. Laurent de la Salanque
France
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Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 11:33:27 AM
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| Arts and crap! I LOVE it, too funny! I have loads of A&C and wouldn't be without it; you never know when inspiration will strike. Course, I also have an attic that looks like a bomb went off. I'm a coupla closets short of being a packrat, or is that a coupla sandwiches short of a picnic (?), so I feel the pain you all describe; and the need to downsize occasionally. Think donations to a charity, think yard sale (!!) and think rubbish/recycle bin. It truly IS freeing to get rid of things no longer valued or useful. Anytime I clean out or donate stuff I think "Cool! Look at all this space"! and have to fight off the urge to hit a thrift store!! Love all these ideas you've posted, too. Nance |
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KYgurlsrbest
True Blue Farmgirl
4853 Posts
Jonni
Elsmere
Kentucky
USA
4853 Posts |
Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 11:37:45 AM
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Bramble, you sound just like me. Our cottage was built in the 20's, when Chiffarobes were still in fashion, and though I have a pantry and linen closet, I only have one clothes closet that was added with the add on's in the 60's, and our basement--well, our cellar--forget it. I don't even go down there...I knock my noggin everytime, and I'm only 5'3".
You are a bit more mercenary than me, but I admire it. I was really bad about holding onto scrap fabrics at one time. After my great aunt passed away, I found a bunch of unfinished sewing projects in her home, too, so it must run in the family. That actually fixed me though on hording--it took me almost 2 solid years to clean out her home, basement to attic. They'd lived there for 70 years and never threw anything away. It's difficult at first, but it easier.
I guess it's like after a divorce when some women get their hair chopped off! Totally liberating!
Just think of all of the roads there are...all of the things I haven't seen....yet. |
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grace gerber
True Blue Farmgirl
2804 Posts
grace
larkspur
colorado
USA
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Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 12:35:18 PM
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I too have been doing the clutter clean up. For many years I have even had friends and even strangers ask me to assist with their clutter clean up. Here are a few tips - Do one room at a time so it does not feel so huge. Do not do this decluttering if you are over emoitional (that time of month or after a emotional event)because you might regret something later. If you have not worn it in a year it needs a new home. If you are holding on to it for the kids when they grow up remember most will not appreciate it once they get it so if it is not something that has been passed down, pass it on. Most of all "things are things and nothing more" For those who have lost everything such as in a war, mother nature or some other problem, most say they are just glad that they are alive and family and friends are too. We all get attached to things but when I find myself getting too attached to things I makes sure they find a new home. Good luck and remember you are the most precious thing you own.
Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio
Where the spirits are high and the fiber is deep
http://www.larkspurfunnyfarm.etsy.com
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Bridge
True Blue Farmgirl
814 Posts
Bridgette
Southern
Indiana
USA
814 Posts |
Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 8:30:58 PM
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My office is the room I want to really focus on, in the very near future.
Friendly Note..... You might use freecycle as a means to get some of your clutter gone.They have groups all over the world!
http://www.freecycle.org/
~~Bridge's Boutique~~
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Tabigirl
Farmgirl in Training
29 Posts
Tabitha
Kent
WA
USA
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Posted - Jan 11 2007 : 8:46:44 PM
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I have also had much inspiration from www.flylady.net an excellent and nurturing webpage to get you motivated. Remember the clutter didn't happen overnight and it will take some time to work through this. Do what you can each day even if it is just 30 min or so dedicated to the cause.
Blessings, Tabitha |
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La Patite Ferme
True Blue Farmgirl
623 Posts
Jenn
CA
USA
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Posted - Jan 12 2007 : 10:03:12 AM
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Ash -
Winter is my perfect time to declutter because we are in the house much more than the other months. I have a small house, so things build up quickly. It is a constant effort, but don't be put off by that. The releif you will feel afterwards is well worth the work.
When I started I picked a room, closet, dresser, or any flat surface that gathers - well crap. Then I follow this motto: put it away, throw it away, give it away. I'm like some of the other ladies. I no longer identify who might be able to use this because it takes them so long to come and get it and the whole idea of the project is to declutter, not hold until someone picks it up.
Laundry baskets are great for sorting the give away and throw away. The put aways are put away while I'm working and the others go into the baskets. The throw aways are walked to the trash (financial stuff is thrown into the fire), and the give aways are bagged and put into the car and taken to the thrift store the next day or so.
A friend of mine is beginning this process and she is also overwhelmed, because some of her junk has not moved in the five years I've known her. She can't imagine getting this done in a weekend and uses that as an excuse not to start. So my suggestion was to pick a room to work on then one section of the room, like a cabinet or dresser or a countertop. Work on that one thing until finished then stop until the next day. That way your whole day is not being consumed.
Once I decluttered my house life was much simpler and it's much easier to keep up with it. My stress level also went down because I wasn't always looking at all the junk.
What also helped was putting on some nice soothing music, lighting my candles, fixing a pot of tea and just diving in. It goes by fast.
Good luck and get started :) |
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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl
2045 Posts
Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
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catscharm74
True Blue Farmgirl
4687 Posts
Heather
Texas
USA
4687 Posts |
Posted - Jan 20 2007 : 2:04:38 PM
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www.simpleliving.org is a helpful website
As far as myself, I had to downsize majorly and I found that some things I had I never used anymore. Also, as my style changed, I could get rid of more things. My house looks a little bit like country meets beach meets simple cottage. I can't have a lot of stuff around because of allergies.
I started by sorted into 2 laundry baskets (keep and donate) and then I pulled the large garbage dumpster into the house for the garbage. As the donate filled up, I place it in large trash bags and put them in the back of my Jeep. Out of sight, Out of mind.
Now, I am not one of those people who can store stuff until someone comes to get it or I get around to mailing it/selling it. I worked one room on every weekend (Just Saturday). That way I didn't get overwhelmed and I still had a weekend. Sometimes, I would sit in front of the old TV and clean out a drawer or organize papers, photos, etc.
I kept only what I really love. I even got rid of a few heirlooms as they weren't quite my taste. These I gave to my sister so there wouldn't be any problems down the road.
Things like my own childhood art (which I had a TON of), I choose the best pieces and framed them and now they hang in my son's room. Everything else was trashed. Half of it you couldn't even tell what it was. Also, taking pictures of things before getting rid of them might help you cope with those hard to get rid of items.
I have to hanging soft shoe holder in my closet. They hold hats, smaller shoes (flip flops) ties, belts, winter stuff, bathing suits. This really has freed up a lot of drawer space and this was stuff that usually gets lost in the rush.
Good luck!!!
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Nancy Gartenman
True Blue Farmgirl
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Nancy
West Seneca
New York
USA
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shelle
True Blue Farmgirl
404 Posts
Shelle
oklahoma
USA
404 Posts |
Posted - Jan 20 2007 : 9:33:17 PM
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I have been cleaning out closets and cabinets getting things ready for when we move. I figured that it would be a good idea to do it before we sell the house so that by the time we do I will already be pared down to just what we use. It helps me to try to visualize where I want to put it in the new house. If I dont have a place for it or I think it will be in the box stored in a closet then I will give it or through it away.
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lilpunkin
True Blue Farmgirl
368 Posts
Texas
USA
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Posted - Jan 20 2007 : 11:01:25 PM
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I go through things alittle at a time(room by room). That is the best advice. You can't do it all in one day, it didnt take one day for you to accumulate it all.
I like for things to be very clean and organized, I just function better that way. Now mind you, I have 2 boys and a husband that dont always live by that same mentality. But we make it work. We also have moved a few times since we have been married, and as aggrevating as that can be, it also was a good time to go through things and get rid of stuff. Especially unpacking , because I see things and say, I will never use this again, or I dont need this. So I get rid of it.
In the past we have always just loaded it up and taken it to goodwill. But I said I might sell some of the really good stuff on Ebay and the rest can go to goodwill. we will see, but either way, when its time to go, it goes.
Life isn't measured by how many breaths you take, but by how many moments take your breath away. |
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Nance in France
True Blue Farmgirl
1438 Posts
Nancy
St. Laurent de la Salanque
France
1438 Posts |
Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 02:46:15 AM
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| This is such a good topic to read (misery loves company, right?) because I swing from one side of the fence to the other....however never a drastic huge swing.. I love my "stuff" all around the house, in the attic, etc. but I have found that when I get in the Cleaning Woman Mode, afterwards the level of peace and satisfaction seems higher. I have periodic yard sales and it is good to see something being appreciated and bought by somebody else, and you make a little spending or saving money, to boot! Good for the soul. Less stuff to clean, to arrange, to worry over, to dust, etc. means more time for creative endeavors I think. And LOVED the Brown Dress story; while I could not do it for a whole year, that chick rocks because she did it for a very good reason. Too often I fear, our lives are little reflections of the BIG picture of America; living on credit, biting off more than we can chew, robbing Peter to pay Paul, you get the picture. That is why it is said that most people are only two paychecks away from financial disaster. And while I love a good department store/thrift store/yard sale/curbside freebie as much as the next person, often I now stop to think "Do I REALLY need/want/can use this?" While I will never move to a little house with clean blank walls and only a bed and a table and chair, I find that I appreciate my things more when I have less to appreciate. Everybody have a happy, content, inspiring, productive day! Nance |
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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl
2045 Posts
Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
2045 Posts |
Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 09:47:55 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking about the brown dress last night while I was knitting away. If I was going to wear the same dress for a year I don't think it would be brown! I was trying to decide what color it would have to be. Black maybe (what if you had to go to a funeral during the year?) or maybe gray - maybe that is what the Pilgrims were doing with their gray dresses. My other choice would maybe be a denim jumper. Then add/subtract blouses/sweaters and accessories to dress up or down. But looking at my closet I guess I have maybe already done most of that.
I have simplified my "business casual" work wardrobe - I have 5 pairs of navy-blue docker-style, 5 white button down oxford shirts with the company logo embroidered on. I wear a green denim jacket over this every day.
And then for after work I have about 4 pairs of blue jeans, 2 denim jumpers, 2 denim skirts, and 4 denim shirts...... hmmm. seeing a trend here. Of course I have several dresses in my closet that don't get out much and a lot of blue suits from an earlier, more corporate headquarters assignment a decade ago. Maybe I should clean those out!
You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands - You shall be happy and it shall be well with you. -Psalm 128.2
Visit my blog at http://brightmeadowfarms.blogspot.com ,web site store at http://www.watkinsonline.com/fish or my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~brightmeadow |
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Nance in France
True Blue Farmgirl
1438 Posts
Nancy
St. Laurent de la Salanque
France
1438 Posts |
Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 10:06:43 AM
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| Brenda, my one dress would definitely have to be the basic black dress! I always joke I should have married an undertaker... Nance |
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ByHzGrace
True Blue Farmgirl
348 Posts
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Posted - Jan 21 2007 : 2:55:18 PM
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Well working in the fashion industry... it has been said brown is the new black.
I have been conflicted with working in this industry and with a pledge I made recently.
Our Sunday school class pledged to try to live more intentionally. Part of these intentions, have to do with my call and response as being a steward to God's creation:our planet, to help my neighbors:clothe the naked, feed the poor, aid the sick, visit the imprisoned, and to redirect my efforts to what I believe my faith really is an "abundant life".
How do you take action?
How does the pack rat take this call forward?
Is all consumption negative?
Is purchasing a product that may produce conservation wrong?
Like I have been challenged with some of my needs or maybe it is wants... especially trying to be on a small island to search for free cycle items... does the required separate trips to different places and loss of fuel/energy, subsequent pollution footprints make up for the savings a new rope, additional clothespins, I could get with one trip to my local hardware store to make for my broken dryer? To repeat the sounding JOY What about strings for my guitar and reeds for a clarinet? I have changed dress sizes so I have been busy sewing. My weakness, I confess, I'm a swimsuitaholic... I've never (editing in some missing words that my  mind must want my fingers to conserve )HAD one to last a year like the dress. I haven't found too MANY lyrca scraps at the thrift store.
I would like to hear any tips on how can I do this?
I love how we can use scraps if we just take the time to redesign/reinvent ourselves/think. Did you see the scrap house on natl geographic?
http://www.scraphouse.org/Materials
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Nance in France
True Blue Farmgirl
1438 Posts
Nancy
St. Laurent de la Salanque
France
1438 Posts |
Posted - Jan 22 2007 : 10:39:23 AM
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| Ellen, I think you've stumbled across something that we're all sort of saying/trying to say....to live intentionally, or to live thoughtfully. Thinking a purchase through instead of impulse buying or buying because it was such a good deal, etc. Haven't we all had a blouse hanging in the closet that had never been worn, tags still on, but it was SUCH a bargain??? I think you take action one step at a time, like training wheels on a bike; and I think that a packrat could take stock of the stock, so to speak, and sell or donate hardly used/no longer needed items to charity. And absolutely you must keep your musical instruments ready to make a joyful noise at a moment's notice, because that makes the heart glad. And God loves a cheerful giver, not only of material possessions, but of ourselves, our time, etc. We all need splurges now and then, but when we begin to rethink and redefine what is truly necessary, then we are on the track to simply successful living: you're halfway there, girlfriend! Nance |
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Rosemary
True Blue Farmgirl
1825 Posts
Virginia
USA
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Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 08:30:21 AM
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How about priming yourself with thoughts of the advent-of-disaster plan: If you had 2 hours to gather up whatever belongings you could transport 100 miles to safety by hand and on foot (the way most of the world's refugees have to) in the advent of some stuff-destroying disaster, what would you save, not counting the food and water we'll pretend will fall out of the sky as needed?
Everything else you can safely give away or sell. |
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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl
2045 Posts
Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
2045 Posts |
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 09:13:53 AM
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I almost just bought another book on sustainable living.... and then I decided to look for it in the library instead.
Ellen, you really put your finger on the paradox that I continually find as I try to live in a more sustainable way. It is too hard to know the total cost/impact of our purchasing decisions.
For example, when I missed the Saturday delivery of my CSA, I had to drive 15 miles in the other direction to pick up my organically, locally grown food package. Is it worth it? My car, sadly, only gets 18 mpg. so I used almost a whole gallon of gasoline to pick up a few vegetables. If all her customers are like me, making individual trips to pick up their vegetables, then our organically-grown, sustainable vegetables are certainly contributing more than their fair share of greenhouse gas emissions - more damage to the planet than a centrally located organic market near our workplaces would be....
I wonder why I even need a car at all - I SHOULD be riding my bicycle! (except it's 15 degrees outside today, might the additional health care costs due to breaking my arm riding on icy roads balance out the reduced health care costs due to the healthier lifestyle?)
I should knit yarn from my stash instead of buying new yarn... but if I don't buy yarn, the local yarn stores will go out of business! And how will the store owners make their living? I don't really need new clothes so why should I knit at all? The sweater I knit 5 years ago is still warm and almost all in one piece....
Yesterday I took my own bags to the grocery store. It was funny to watch the clerk - I only took 5 bags and she thought she needed more - she put the jug of orange juice with a handle in a plastic bag! She only put a few items in each bag. When I got to my car I repacked everything and left the extra plastic bags (5 of them) in the cart. I so seldom remember to take these bags in, I really must do it more often.
You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands - You shall be happy and it shall be well with you. -Psalm 128.2
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Nance in France
True Blue Farmgirl
1438 Posts
Nancy
St. Laurent de la Salanque
France
1438 Posts |
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 11:18:30 AM
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Brenda, you have said a mouthful which will cause us to think a brainful!! And I for one would prefer not hearing that you have broken a limb to save gasoline. I like your yarn theory; too cute! My "stash" rarely consists of more than about 15 skeins or balls of yarn so I definitely live with stash envy. Maybe there is a support group; one that hopefully meets near a yarn shop. And maybe when you are in a position to trade cars, you could find one that is more fuel efficient. I wish the powers that be in America would get the idea that producing and using those really tough reusable grocery sacks is mandatory. It is that way in France; they are so durable and should one finally bite the dust a replacement bag is a mere 1 Euro. In fact only a few grocery stores do keep a supply of the cheap one-use bags (the norm for us in the US) and they CHARGE the customer for using them, it is only a few cents but it sends a message. It really boils down to that old "wear it out use it up or do without" or however it really goes. If we thought before we bought, we might be surprised to see how many times we decide against the purchase. I think alot of us are closer to living the dream of a more simple life than we realize, but it is like going on a diet. You (we) must take that first step and keep at it until you see results: it is not easy when marketing folks keep pushing stuff at us with the "you deserve this" hidden motivation. Ok, I've said enough; I think I'll go clean out a drawer. Nance
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Rosemary
True Blue Farmgirl
1825 Posts
Virginia
USA
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Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 11:40:31 AM
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Nancy, France is the most civilized nation on earth, in so many ways.
Why not make those plastic grocery bags a thing of the past in the U.S., I mean legally? (And the paper ones, too, while we're at it -- they're only good for harboring roaches anyway. If you insist on using them, DON'T bring them inside!) What if grocery stores gave out reusable HEMP bags, so many to a customer once only -- you'd have to purchase replacements)? Wouldn't they save money in the long run? Of course, the hemp would have to come from some non-U.S. source, since this fabulous cash crop is illegal here due to a few misguided zealots, but since most U.S. grocery stores are owned by corporations based in the Netherlands and elsewhere anyway, so what? It's more a global economy every day.
Wow. I'm writing to the Powers That Be tonight. Go thou and do likewise. |
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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl
2045 Posts
Brenda
Lucas
Ohio
USA
2045 Posts |
Posted - Jan 23 2007 : 12:04:58 PM
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Nance - it was living in Europe (Spain) for a year that really made me see the way we live here with "new eyes" - before that, I had taken our way of life for granted. Now I struggle with it, seeing the parardoxes all the time.
Ellen - you work in the fashion industry? You could "clothe the naked" by giving away all your clothes every year and getting new ones -- just not so many???
I have a similar problem, I work for an automobile manufacturer. My personal values sometimes feel like they are in conflict with the goals of the corporation -- even though I can rationalize it (hey, we make ambulances too! and people who live in rural areas have better lives because of cars! and the local economy is dependent on manufacturing!) so I can sleep at night...
They would like for us to buy a new car every year or two.... Yeah, right! That is where I draw the line. But on the other hand even the car manufacturers are trying to make their cars last longer (warranties are now for 100,000 miles) and to be able to recycle more of the car when it eventually can't be repaired, and the hydrogen fuel cell looks promising to cut down emissions and dependence on oil. So even the corporations really are trying to be more sustainable.
You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands - You shall be happy and it shall be well with you. -Psalm 128.2
Visit my blog at http://brightmeadowfarms.blogspot.com ,web site store at http://www.watkinsonline.com/fish or my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~brightmeadow |
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Across the Fence: Simplifying Life...Suggestions Please |
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Simplifying Life...Suggestions Please
