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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader
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kysheeplady
True Blue Farmgirl
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Teri
KY
USA
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Posted - Feb 05 2013 : 05:51:53 AM
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I"m no Vet, but the last time I knew wounds heal from the inside to the outside. Meaning it could be working. Did you measure the wound to start with? The scab or skin is the last thing to grow in as far as I know. But really if you are really concerned call a Vet.
Teri
"There are black sheep in every flock"
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
NM
USA
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Posted - Feb 05 2013 : 05:59:12 AM
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It all depends on what the cut looks like. If it is only the skin then it may be fine left alone for the most part. Many times if we mess with it too much it will turn into an ulcer and never heal. Horses dont really get scabs they heal from the inside out. They get proud flesh. Cuts vary so much concerning where and how deep they are. There are many factors where one has to decide whether to wrap or not wrap, or add an antibiotic cream or to spray a drying spray. Or to just leave it alone. Can you post a pic of it? The lower on the leg the cut the more prone it is to infection which can be a nasty ordeal. She may need a round of antibiotics but that can cause colic. I try to avoid giving antibiotics but if I do I also give yogurt or a probiotic paste. Yogurt is cheaper and does the same thing. Antibiotics can kill off the good bacteria in the gut and make them colic. Which will kill them. But sometimes they need them. Watch for swelling. Running cold water on it for 15 min can reduce swelling but do not scrub it dry you want to pat it. Maybe wrap. Scrubbing is what will make an ulcer that will never heal on some wounds. You just have to be careful what you take off and what you leave. The yellow goopy crud is actually a good thing. Laura
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queenmushroom
True Blue Farmgirl
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Lorena
Centerville
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Posted - Feb 05 2013 : 09:55:00 AM
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Nitrofurosone (sp) is the yellow goopy stuff. I don't know if you can get that through tack shops or if it's vets only. You could also try some bag balm. It does have some antiseptic properties. You can also hot pack it if it looks infected and clean it with betadine diluted to look like weak tea or diluted chlorhexadine. H
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
NM
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Posted - Feb 05 2013 : 3:14:55 PM
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Nitrofurosone causes cancer. Don't touch it! I used it on a horse years ago and she got cancer. Then I heard a lot about it after that and it even has a warning label for it. I used it once since then at a vets directions to draw out an infection, wrapped in a special way. I wore gloves to do it that time cause I knew what it could do. Bioazide is better if you are going to use a disinfecting cream. It's about $14 from the vet for a big ole jar of it. I like it and use it a lot. It's red and it is basically neosporin only cheaper for horses and in a large container. It has mild antibiotics in it. The yellow goopy crud I was talking about at the end of my post is something made by the wound itself, not refering to the medicine your hubby used. I didn't think about it but Lorena's post made me think yup that's nitrofurosone and seriously that stuff is scary. Laura Horse poor in the boonies. http://www.etsy.com/shop/CrittergrannysLair www.creamofthecroptrailrides.webs.com |
Edited by - crittergranny on Feb 05 2013 3:15:39 PM |
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wincrestnubians
True Blue Farmgirl
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Jennifer
Ohio
USA
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Posted - Feb 07 2013 : 05:02:12 AM
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I have used nitrofurozone for years and never had any issues, the stuff works wonders. I will not ever use again is Vetrycin. The worst stuff on the planet... NFZ helped my does when a dog attacked them and torn them up pretty bed. Penny is a survivor and the worst that survived. Tore her leg open so bad you could see the tendons and all the muscles. Just take a hose and hose out the wound, clean with mild dish soap in warm water and pat dry. Apply the NFZ. If it is superfiscial(sp), leave it be. I have owned trained bred horses many years and worked with a lot of vets. This will work. Good luck.
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Edited by - wincrestnubians on Feb 07 2013 05:04:17 AM |
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FieldsofThyme
Farmgirl Guide & Schoolmarm / Chapter Leader
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
NM
USA
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Posted - Feb 08 2013 : 2:42:53 PM
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Kristina whether you choose to use nitrofurozone or not here is a link that shows what a properly healing leg wound should look like. Corona cream was used in this instance. There are a lot of good products out there besides nitrofurozone and without the carcinogens. I personally would never use nitrofurozone on soft tissue especially reproductive organs. And you want to definitely use gloves especially if you have daughters that might be using it. But surgical gloves when treating animal wounds is always a good idea anyway. My favorite antibiotic cream is bioazide. http://www.horseforum.com/horse-health/making-sense-furazone-warning-gross-pics-49297/ Laura
Horse poor in the boonies. http://www.etsy.com/shop/CrittergrannysLair www.creamofthecroptrailrides.webs.com |
Edited by - crittergranny on Feb 08 2013 2:47:13 PM |
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl
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Linda
Manchester
Ohio
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Posted - Feb 08 2013 : 7:19:43 PM
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Laura I tried finding the cream you mentioned online and found nothing. Where do you buy that cream and can you order it online anywhere? Thanks.
Linda
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
NM
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl
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Linda
Manchester
Ohio
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Posted - Feb 09 2013 : 10:57:38 AM
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The one you liked the Bioazide cream. I could not find it when I did a search online. Thanks so much for any info or a place I could order it from.
Linda
Raspberry Run Farm Nubian Dairy Goats |
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crittergranny
True Blue Farmgirl
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Laura
Lindrith
NM
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Posted - Feb 09 2013 : 1:00:18 PM
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Here is a link about biozide. I spelled it wrong before, sorry. I really do like it. It is very gentle and provides a little antibiotics and a protective shield. I think it sort of keeps the ugly bacteria at bay while allowing the wound to heal naturally. Another product I really like is a spray on aluminum bandage. The link for that one is on the bottom. It is a spray on bandage and it is not drying like some of the other spray on stuff. It is aluminum and it really does act like a bandage and keeps the flies out. Usually I wash the wound gently with a diluted betadine soap, which is different than plain betadine and has to be rinsed off completely or it will irritate. I also use plain betadine and it can be left on some. Then I pat dry and either put the cream or the spray on depending on how far along the wound is and if it is fly season. The aluminum spray doesnt kill germs but it seals and keeps the flies off, but doesnt let the wound drain as well as the biozide. The biozide kills germs and lets the wound drain but doesnt keep the flies off. A couple of my horses had pigeon fever a couple of years ago. It is an illness that causes a huge abscess on their chest and girth. I washed it every day with the betadine soap and patted it dry and then put the biozide cream on it to keep the bacteria from traveling into the abscess as it drained. I gave them bute for pain and inflamation management and chose to not give them antibiotic pills cause I dont like to do that unless it's really necessary. I think that with abscesses oral antibiotics can make it worse because it just creates more white blood cells and puss for the abscess to expel. I did that every day for about 2 months and they both healed nicely. Was so fun in late october through dec. I had icicle fingers..lol. http://www.biozidegel.com/html/about_biozide_r_gel.html http://www.calvetsupply.com/product/1463/Veterinary_Wound_Care Laura
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Edited by - crittergranny on Feb 09 2013 1:02:46 PM |
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wooliespinner
True Blue Farmgirl
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Linda
Manchester
Ohio
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Posted - Feb 09 2013 : 3:34:51 PM
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Thanks so much Laura I will check out the site. I plan to order some for my dairy goats. I don't have a horse anymore but I do have dairy goats and sometimes they do get cut. Thanks for all the information and also on how you use the cream. I like to use products that I know has worked well from other people.
Linda
Raspberry Run Farm Nubian Dairy Goats |
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