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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl
1903 Posts
Margo
Elyria
OH
USA
1903 Posts |
 Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 11:48:46 AM
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bad news-on two counts
A) pathology report back-cancer HAS invaded to lymph nodes
B) and i take this harder---my medicaid is most ikely NOT transferrable to ohio so i guess-at this writing-we are NOT moving --no one available today to answer my questions-cannot do treatment without the medicaid so--looks like we are stuck here in northern michigan
i think i am going to go sit and cry...not sure it will help but maybe itll clear some things outta my head
Farmgirl # 2139
proud member of the Farmgirls of the Southwest Henhouse
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl
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jessabelluh
True Blue Farmgirl
349 Posts
Jessica
South Dakota
USA
349 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 12:04:44 PM
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*hugs* I hope you can get the medicaid figured out! How far down in Ohio is your family? If you have to stay in MI for insurance purposes, maybe just closer to the Ohio border would be an option, that would at least get you closer to family.
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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl
1903 Posts
Margo
Elyria
OH
USA
1903 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 12:33:34 PM
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they are in lorain county- moving downstate would get me closer to them but really is a hassle since they are almost two hours from mich border where i live now is quite inexpensive-don't see that happening closer to the border but it was a good thought! thanx for suggesting!i would still be at minimum 100+ miles from any of them and honestly movin is so hard as it is....
but thx! and ill take the hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Farmgirl # 2139
proud member of the Farmgirls of the Southwest Henhouse
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
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beekeepersgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
1423 Posts
Luanne
Cresco
PA
USA
1423 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 12:44:17 PM
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Oh Margo - I'm so sorry for all your troubles. You'll be in my prayers big time - and here's a great big HUG for you too. Please keep us posted - I hope everything works out for you with Medicaid and that you can move as planned.
Luanne
beekeepersgirl #691
Pleasant words are as an honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.
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craftingram
True Blue Farmgirl
528 Posts
Karin
Nashville
In
USA
528 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 12:54:03 PM
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Margo, I'm so sorry that you've had more added to your plate. Sending prayers and Farmgirl hugs that all will work out.
Karin
Farmgirl #2708
Romans 8: 38,39 |
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Catherine L
True Blue Farmgirl
408 Posts
Cathy
Newton
Texas
USA
408 Posts |
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ceejay48
Farmgirl Legend/Schoolmarm/Sharpshooter
13775 Posts
CeeJay (CJ)
Dolores
Colorado
USA
13775 Posts |
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Bear5
True Blue Farmgirl
13055 Posts
Louisiana/Texas
USA
13055 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 4:37:40 PM
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Margo:
Sending you a giant hug. You'll be in my prayers. Keep us posted.
Marly
"It's only when we truly know and understand that we have a limited time on earth- and that we have no way of knowing when our time is up- that we will begin to live each day to the fullest, as if it was the only one we had." Elisabeth Kurler-Ross |
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woolgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
901 Posts
Elizabeth
Great Lakes
IL
USA
901 Posts |
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prariehawk
True Blue Farmgirl
2914 Posts
Cindy
2914 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 6:04:26 PM
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Praying for you, Margo. Something will work out.
Cindy
"Vast floods can't quench love, no matter what love did/ Rivers can't drown love, no matter where love's hid"--Sinead O'Connor
"In many ways, you don't just live in the country, it lives inside you"--Ellen Eilers
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coaloha
True Blue Farmgirl
502 Posts
Pam
USA
502 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 7:05:53 PM
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Margo,
I am really sorry to hear about the node involvement. Getting this result must have been a real blow. If you need a good cry...go right ahead. It's so hard to hear this sort of bad news. And I am sorry that it looks like moving won't work out...dealing with payment issues just makes dealing with the disease and treatment even harder. I can certainly understand why you wanted to be closer to your family for love, help, and support. So, after you've been sad for a bit, please start thinking about how you can build in support and help for yourself where you are. Take all offers for comfort and help! Think about ways to stay connected with people (include us! Farmgirls are the best!!) Think about how to set up your home so that you will be comfortable and things will be as easy to deal with as possible. It will probably be easier to do some of these things now, before treatment starts. I am sending love and prayers to you and a reminder that you can get through this.
(((Hugs))) to you, Margo.
Warmly,
Pam
Pam Barnes-Palty
Phoenix, AZ
Farmgirl #1075
Happy member of the Southwest Henhouse
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classygram
True Blue Farmgirl
1812 Posts
Brenda
Pleasant Hill
Mo.
USA
1812 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 8:01:13 PM
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Margo I'm so sorry to hear about your struggles, My prayers are coming your way, Farmgirl sister. Insurance, can be very hard to deal with. I do hope that it gets fixed soon so you can go back home and be with family, so they can help you through all of this. Keep us up on how things are going, you'll be in our thoughts and prayers. Sending BIG farmgirl Hugs, Brenda
http:///www.scatteredlittleblessings.blogspot.com
Seek reasons to Love..In every sigment of everyday-look for something that brings forth within you a feeling of Love-Abraham Hicks |
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Ruby V
True Blue Farmgirl
220 Posts
Ruby
Chilliwack
BC
Canada
220 Posts |
Posted - Dec 30 2011 : 9:14:54 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about your test results. In 1997 my mom's breast cancer was found in her lymph nodes - she was told that she only had a 50% chance of making it 3 years. She's still going strong though! So definately have a positive attitude and do all the treatments the drs. recommend!
As for the medicaid, I'm shocked to hear that it's not transferrable to other states. There must be some way to go about it, retired people move all the time. Maybe you could find some sort of seniors organization that can help you with getting it transferred? What about AARP? What about all those seniors who spend 6 months of the year in Florida or Arizona - surely they get medical treatment. I hope you can find some way around it. Hang in there!
Ruby ~ Sister #3597 |
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rough start farmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
3331 Posts
marianne
The Beautiful Pacific NW
Washington State
USA
3331 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 04:21:08 AM
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So sorry to hear of your news. You are in my prayers.
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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl
1903 Posts
Margo
Elyria
OH
USA
1903 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 08:51:28 AM
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i guess the actual "medicaid" system-while a federal program, is governed by each state and their funding budgets. until i can speak with someone from the BCCP in the county to which i wish to move, i cannot do anything. IF and i mean BIG IF they say taht they would aaccept the dx from the michigan BCCCP and that they would be willin to enroll me, i am stuck here-
having dealt alot with ins companies- many of the folks who travel south or west-snowbirds-are not on medicaid-they may have medicare- a totally diff program.....as well as their own ins companies-which do allow travel.
medicaid is for ppl who have no ins-which i unfortunately fall into-it's embarrassing to me as i had awesome ins thru my husband until he had an industrial accident and lost it.i have paid into social security and am explorin that to see if i can qualify for any disability--not having ins is hard enough but now i may never be able to GET ins when i start work again --and i WILL start work again..
i am hopeful for a good outcome but today i am scared......
and MAD!
thank you all for being here!
Farmgirl # 2139
proud member of the Farmgirls of the Southwest Henhouse
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
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Sheep Mom 2
True Blue Farmgirl
1534 Posts
Sheri
Elk
WA
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 09:22:54 AM
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I am so sorry to hear the news. I will keep you in my prayers. Just remember this is a winnable fight. My best friend is now 10 years cancer free after going through it.
Blessings, Sheri
"Work is Love made visible" -Kahlil Gibran
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Ruby V
True Blue Farmgirl
220 Posts
Ruby
Chilliwack
BC
Canada
220 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 10:20:00 AM
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Thanks for the info on medicaid. I did't realize it that it was different from medicare. I'm living in Canada, but I am an American. If anything happens to my hubby (who's 11 yrs older than me) then I would definately return to the USA and at that point, I wouldn't have any medical insurance coverage. Hhhhmmm, I can see now that this would put me in a very bad position, especially as I'm a super-high cancer risk. {sigh} Dang, it sucks to get old.
Ruby ~ Sister #3597 |
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Ninibini
True Blue Farmgirl
7577 Posts
Nini
Pennsylvania
USA
7577 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 10:30:03 AM
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You have every reason to be upset and cry, Margo - this is the pits. A good cry will help relieve some of your stress, so you just go ahead and let it all out! Please remember, though, you're not alone, and, as they say, when you're at the bottom, the only way is up. We all have our hands reaching down to help you and to lift you up, too. You can do this. You can. Sheri's right - it is a winnable fight, even though the circumstances are less than ideal. Have you checked with your local cancer unit, just to find out what types of services/assistance are out there to help you through this? A lot of times, there are offers of free transportation to and from treatment (which, trust me, you may really need), free in-home care, free wigs (and look good, feel better programs), companion services, financial and medical assistance, nutritional counseling, etc. A lot of people understand what you are going through, and have set up so many ways to help make it a little easier - SUCH a blessing, truly. You should be able to access a lot of information through the American Cancer Society, either by calling or visiting their website. If you are just not emotionally "there" to look into it, I'd be happy to look up all of that for you and send links where you can learn more... Just shoot me a quick email. I wish I could be there to help, but at the very least I would be happy to do some of this research "legwork" for you. I know it's hard, I do. I just don't want you to think you have to go it alone. You don't. I wish you could be closer to family, too, I really, really do. But at least you know that there are options to help you when they can't. And if there's anything we farmgirl sisters can do for you, you know we will! :)
Much love,
Nini
Farmgirl Sister #1974
God gave us two hands... one to help ourselves, and one to help others!
www.papercraftingwithnini.myctmh.com
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classygram
True Blue Farmgirl
1812 Posts
Brenda
Pleasant Hill
Mo.
USA
1812 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 10:40:16 AM
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Just like Nini said, try to picture all of us reaching our hands out to you and you grab on real tight. Most certainly, you have ever right to be angry and scared. And just get all the bad thoughts out by crying or voicing what you feel. My SIL is dealing with bladder cancer and she said at first she just cried and felt really depressed, as she says, getting the rotten feelings out, and it left room to put the fight back into her. Believe me, we will be fighting for you also. Will God getting all the prayers coming in from the farmgirls, Theres sure to be some mircles. If there is anything you need that we can do, PLEASE let us know. And don't hold it in, we're family now! Hugs,Brenda
http:///www.scatteredlittleblessings.blogspot.com
Seek reasons to Love..In every sigment of everyday-look for something that brings forth within you a feeling of Love-Abraham Hicks |
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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl
1903 Posts
Margo
Elyria
OH
USA
1903 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 11:44:39 AM
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i have to say a huge thank you to all of you for listening to my whining!!! i am aware of the cancer society etc--and i have a good lead on a bunch of that kindof stuff...thanks nini for your offer there!right now i am more worried about my upcoming treatment and the fact that once i have a lumpectomy or mastectomy i wont be physically as strong or able to do stuff as i am right now---when we moved here in september i did all of the lifting and carrying etc until i had to get help for big furniture!
my woe is that i want to be near to family so that they can feel like they are part of my care-right now they are 327 miles away! i have 3 kids 5 grandkids and my ex and his wife and MIL all are there to help as well...and when i wake up in hospital from surgery id love to have them near!
where we(my latest ex and i are together caring for each other-he has his own medical issues-many of them!) live; i have folks from church-and they are wonderful but have their own stuff!-and we live about 15 miles from the hospital and docs office except if i go to the specialty cancer center in grand rapids (169 miles round trip)(where i went this week for latest biopsy).
we live in a comfortable enough mobile home and i have "the girls" to cuddle with-my dog and cat....michael tries to be attentive to my needs but he is 15 years older and as stubborn as i am and as i said has his own med needs...michael worries- he buys worry by the cart full! and his meds don't really do enough for him and ten i get angry with him.
i have a few friends from college-one is a 5 yr survivor and fits post mastectomy gals so she has been invaluable to me- she leads a support group which i plan to attend....
i guess i am just so frustrated by "the system" and then putting the holiday weekend in so nobody is working--i want answers NOW ---i've worked in the public all of my life and am studying in human services and i am just frustrated....
i've been reading all of the literature and last nite i found some very disturbing stuff that made me more afraid and no one to answer my questions so i quit reading!
anyhow- i feel the love of the framgirls; i cherish the cards and everything and always always appreciate the prayers! one farmgirl has offered to come stay with me for a week in february- that's wonderful for someone who doesnt even know me!
gals...thanks!!!!!!!!
Farmgirl # 2139
proud member of the Farmgirls of the Southwest Henhouse
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl
1903 Posts
Margo
Elyria
OH
USA
1903 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 11:49:26 AM
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ruby...gosh i never even realized you were in canada! so yes- your med system is different...
if you eventually come back here deal with the system then--depending on your age at the time, etc....once you are 65 you can qualify for medicare but you really need to have supplemental ins for drugs etc...it is a racket and a game and takes a lot to maneuver-i am a pro at that system but the medicaid system surprised me since it too is federal!!!! i am hoping that someone here in michigan can pave the way for me in ohio but i don't see it happening and i am afraid to make the move unless i get some guarantee! i have no income right now so i cannot pay any med bills...it's sad!!
thanks for following this thread!
Farmgirl # 2139
proud member of the Farmgirls of the Southwest Henhouse
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
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Red Tractor Girl
True Blue Farmgirl
6771 Posts
Winnie
Gainesville
Fl
USA
6771 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 12:15:05 PM
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Ruby and Penny- I just wanted to weigh in on Medicaid versus Medicare. Medicare is a federal health care program availabable to all citizens age 65 and older. Payments are taken each month from your social security check and it covers about 80% of medical expenses, so everyone has to hava a supplemental policy to cover the additional 20%.Depending on what policy you buy, the additional cost ranges in price per month. Then you have to have something to help with medication expenses not fully covered by Medicare part D. Medicaid is a federally funded program for citizens at any age who qualify. The program is for people who have limited income and personal assets. Medicaid is administered by each state and so eligibility depends on some state guidelines for eligibility. If you are 65 and low income, you might qualify for both Medicare (80%) and Medicaid for the other 20%. Again, it depends on each state for how they qualify people for Medicaid. If you are not 65 and not low income eligible for Medicaid, then the only way you can get health insurance is to purchase it on the market which can be very costly and they can deny you coverage for pre-existing conditions which then leaves you having to pay out of pocket for any medical costs related to that issue (example is diabetes, heart conditions,etc.) The Patient Affordable Care Act initiated by President Obama has a clause that as of January 2014, no insurance company can deny an adult insurance if they have a pre-existing condition. Right now, the Act prevents insurance companies from denying children with pre-existing conditions. However, there is a huge national debate between the two parties with the Republicans promising to repeal the Patient Affordable Care Act which would mean that insurance companies can continue to pick who they will insure and decide if they will cover pre-existing conditions or not. I personally believe that Canada has a much better health care system where everyone is covered regardless of age, diagnosis, or family history. There are no questions. Healthcare is a right provided for all citizens. In my opinion, the US should do the samething but there is big money made by insurance companies and drug companies and they have a powerful lobbying power in Washington to prevent any such changes. If Penny lived in Canada and wanted to move to her daughters, there would not be any issue. Her medical records would just transfer to the medical practice wherever she was going and she would move to be closer to her family.
I hope this answers a few questions.
Winnie #3109
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Emily Anna
True Blue Farmgirl
863 Posts
Emily
Fort Atkinson
WI
USA
863 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 1:00:41 PM
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Oh Margo, I am so sorry to hear all of this! It is so frustrating when you can't get the answers you need right away. You have been in my prayers every night.
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Penny Wise
True Blue Farmgirl
1903 Posts
Margo
Elyria
OH
USA
1903 Posts |
Posted - Dec 31 2011 : 4:04:41 PM
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winnie-thank you! your explanation was more thorough than mine! i was aware the differences and appreciate you explaining them for ruby!
ruby-right now, at least in michigan, the only way that i CAN get onto the medicaid program is by being sick-joy joy! no one WANTS to get sick to get into a program! but because of my diagnoses, i can be admitted to the program. in the case of ohio; i am waiting for the info--because my cancer was diagnosed here in michigan, ohio is not necessarily obligated to put me on medicaid.had i moved before the dx was made and it was made there; i would be accepted. it makes sense i guess.....
tho heres a ticker in my mind--i lived in ohio for 55 of my 57 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and paid into ohio tax programs etc all of taht time....because i moved here i possibly -no most likely--will be denied.
the proram here will pay all of my med bills for a year. at the end of that time, if i am still being actively treated, payment will continue.i feel quite trapped!
as for the heaalth ins debate surroundin the last presidential election...i stood a reat deal to ain and still do...but right now is when i need help.
i am grateful for the medicaid in michigan--i just truly want family .....and i do not think that is unreasonable.
im trying to be patient.....
Farmgirl # 2139
proud member of the Farmgirls of the Southwest Henhouse
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
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Red Tractor Girl
True Blue Farmgirl
6771 Posts
Winnie
Gainesville
Fl
USA
6771 Posts |
Posted - Jan 01 2012 : 05:40:16 AM
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Penny- Gosh, I hope there is a way through the red tape for you! I agree with you that it is so maddening when all you are asking for is to be with family when you need them the most. This is why I just hate our system of healthcare and those in the greatest need get screwed all the time from the ridiculous regulations that are money oriented instead of patient oriented! Just keep asking questions, calling for answers, pushing your case,ask anyone who may have relevant information, and hopefully you will turn over that one stone and find the loophole to get what you want. Good Luck and hang tough farmgirl style!
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