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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  11:46:57 AM  Show Profile
I bought two Clematis about 3 years ago from an on line nursery in the San Francisco area. http://www.chalkhillclematis.com/
One of which, I'd been on the lookout for but could never find it (it was in a Martha Stewart Magazing from 2000 or so and I held onto the picture and name)...until I ran across this nursery.

The Prince Charles (the one I simply added on a whim) is doing splendidly, the one I really, really, really wanted, hasn't even grown a foot and has 4-5 puny leaves. I planted one in full sun on the side of the house, and the one doing wonderfully in front of the house.

So, last week, I moved the puny favorite to the front, opposite the Prince Charles, hoping that will solve my problem.

Any other tips on growing these suckers? What else can I do? What is a rule of thumb in growing them?


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edlund33
True Blue Farmgirl

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Marilyn
Renton WA
USA
1515 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  4:18:03 PM  Show Profile
Jonni, Clematis need to have their roots shaded or protected by a healthy layer of mulch if they are in the full sun, especially if they are planted against a building where they get radiated heat. Clematis also prefer consistent moisture at their root zone(not too much or too little) and do not tolerate poor drainage. Another thing to be aware of is that clematis have different pruning requirements depending on whether they are spring, summer/fall or reblooming varieties. If you cut a spring bloomer in the fall for instance, it will not start sending out new growth until after it's normal bloom period has passed. Good luck - hopefully your favorite plant will be happier with the conditions in front of the house.

Cheers! ~ Marilyn

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CMac
True Blue Farmgirl

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Connie
Ashland City TN
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  4:22:46 PM  Show Profile
I second Marilyn's advice. I always heard they like cool feet and warm shoulders. :)
Connie

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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  05:59:37 AM  Show Profile
I'm so grateful for the information, Marilyn and Connie. I'm hoping this move will help this one become the true beauty I know it can be! It was absolutely breathtaking, clambering over a wall in the magazing. While I'll never be able to replicate that, at least I can (hopefully) have some part of it!


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Miss Bee Haven
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Janice
Louisville/Irvington Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  06:13:53 AM  Show Profile  Send Miss Bee Haven a Yahoo! Message
I agree with Connie and Marilyn, Jonni. I'm no expert, but I've got one planted at the back of my trailer and the 'feet' are shaded. I bought two others last summer and put them on either side of a trellis thing at the entrance to another garden area(same conditions - shade at the bottom) and they already look great this season. I bet yours will perk right up.

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Edited by - Miss Bee Haven on Apr 08 2011 11:27:13 AM
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LadyInRed
True Blue Farmgirl

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PeggyAnn
Vancouver WA
USA
6740 Posts

Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  08:32:35 AM  Show Profile
Well girls...I know how to expertly kill them...does that count? lol

Clematis are one out of two plants that I love and can't grow for the life of me.
The other one is Fuchsias. They both take one look at me and curl up and die, I swear.
So, good luck Jonni. Maybe you can post pictures later.

Hugs and smiles,
~peggy

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Marybeth
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Mary Beth
Stanwood Wa 98292
USA
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  08:56:49 AM  Show Profile
Marilyn is right on with her advise. Also a funny thing about Clematis is that some will do nothing for several years and then-bang-off they go. When I worked at a nursery the one plant customers brought back was clematis--look it is dead--look it just won't grow. Well we'd pot them back up and they would be fine. So patience with the slow one. And good luck!!! MB

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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  10:11:26 AM  Show Profile
Thanks, gals. I'm glad to know the cool feet, warm shoulders technique. I will just have to wait and see what happens...I hope I didn't ruin it by taking it out of the ground before it bloomed...The Prince Charles is already sprouting green leaves up and around the vines, so I'm thinking it will be producing those lovely purple flowers again soon.
Maybe my Clematis is one of those "late bloomers" Mary Beth. I can't for the life of me remember the name and the tag is long ago gone by the wayside. Guess it will always be a mystery, but hopefully a beautiful one!


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kittykill
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Pam
Portland or
USA
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  11:17:18 AM  Show Profile  Send kittykill an AOL message  Send kittykill a Yahoo! Message
Thank you so much for posting this and the tips. I have a Clematis too and I love it but worry about it.

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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - May 11 2011 :  11:30:23 AM  Show Profile
It's working!!!! I moved the other Clematis just opposite the other in the front flower bed and it's already grown 3 times what it was (and that's not saying a whole lot considering it only ever got to be about 5 inches tall and a few leaves) but I do believe it's working!

Thanks for the advice, girls. Maybe next year, I'll actually have blooms!!!!


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Ingrid
True Blue Farmgirl

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Ingrid
BC
Canada
432 Posts

Posted - May 12 2011 :  07:44:07 AM  Show Profile
I have three clematis and they are all in full sun. I have planted other sun plants around the base so the roots are shaded during the hot weather. They don't mind the spring sun on there roots just the hot sun. The first year they were growing I didn't know about the cool roots and the plants struggled. Other than that they need water every day once the consisten warm weather starts. I also cut mine back in the fall and mulch. I know some of them you don't need to cut back but I do anyway.

Give thanks to yourself everyday for all the wonderful things you do!
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