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urban chickie
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Catherine
Niles IL
USA
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Posted - Apr 04 2011 :  4:08:15 PM  Show Profile
A local pie shop was featured on tv the other night and got me wondering. Their specialty is a sugar cream pie made with brown sugar. Does anyone make such a beast? I googled and found some recipes.....I would really like to make this soon! They said it tasted like caramel.

Catherine
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buffypuff
True Blue Farmgirl

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Claudia
Deer Park WA
USA
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Posted - Apr 04 2011 :  6:01:25 PM  Show Profile
I've never heard of this pie, but I am waiting to read what others have to say.

Buffypuff/ Claudia ~ Farmgirl & Sister #870 ~
"It compliments God to ask great things of Him." ~ St. Theresa of Avila


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CMac
True Blue Farmgirl

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Connie
Ashland City TN
USA
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Posted - Apr 04 2011 :  6:03:37 PM  Show Profile
Yum! Me too!
Connie

"I have three chairs in my house: one for solitude, two for friendship, three for company."
Author: Henry David Thoreau
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  06:37:41 AM  Show Profile
The only Hoosier Sugar Cream Pie I know is the one my Great Grandmother, Theodocia, made..and it doesn't have brown sugar in it, only white sugar. The recipe has evolved over the 150 or so years it's been around, originally brought by the South Union Shakers in Kentucky, then up through Ohio and Indiana, so ideally, this bakery "could" offer their own twist. The original recipe calls for mixing it in the pie shell with your fingers, just like I watched my Great Grandmother do for many years.


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FebruaryViolet
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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  06:53:36 AM  Show Profile
This is as close to the "receipt" as I could get for my Grandmother's pie since she never had a written recipe, it was just learned from her mother. I've tried close to a 100 or so recipes over the years, from church cookbooks to newspaper clippings, and all her daughters said, "nope, not the same"....until this one!

This is from Prairie Home Cooking, my favorite cookbook by Judith Fertig--I found this recipe in the desserts section about 3 years after I bought the book! Sure wish I would have looked sooner.


The three essential ingredients in this iconic Indiana pie are cream, sugar and flour. Traditionally, the dry ingredients are put in the shell, the cream is added and then the filling is stirred with the fingers. All kinds of flavors can be added ‹ vanilla, rosewater, lemon or orange zest. This recipe is from “Prairie Home Cooking” by Judith M. Fertig

Hoosier Sugar Cream Pie Makes 1 pie, 8 to 10 servings

Ingredients

1 cup whipping cream

1 cup half-and-half cream

1 cup sugar

1/2 cup flour

1 unbaked 9-inch pie shell

3 tablespoons unsalted butter, cut into small dots

Freshly grated nutmeg

Instructions

Preheat oven to 425 degrees.

In medium bowl, whisk together cream, half-and-half, sugar and flour. Pour into pie shell. Dot top evenly with butter and sprinkle with nutmeg. Bake in preheated oven 15 minutes.

Remove pie from oven. Reduce heat to 350 degrees. Wrap edges of crust with aluminum foil (or use pie shield) to prevent burning, return pie to oven and bake 45 minutes more. Let cool on rack; pie will set upon standing. Serve at room temperature






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urban chickie
True Blue Farmgirl

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Catherine
Niles IL
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  08:38:19 AM  Show Profile
Mmmm....I will have to do some experimenting here. Thanks for sharing your recipe and story! The thing I love about recipes is that there is always a good story behind a good recipe :)

Catherine
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FebruaryViolet
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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  09:05:06 AM  Show Profile
I know, that is what's neat about recipes--so many families make different versions, but this was the one my 80+ Aunts and Grandmother said, "yep, that's Mom's pie!" Forever they talked about her mixing the ingredients in the crust with her fingers and I just thought, "how weird" so when I ran across the recipe in this cookbook, I thought, this HAS to be it, or something like it.

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Edited by - FebruaryViolet on Apr 05 2011 09:06:35 AM
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buffypuff
True Blue Farmgirl

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Claudia
Deer Park WA
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  09:39:58 AM  Show Profile
Jonni, could the sugar used 150 years ago be unrefined...like raw sugar is? It has a different taste than brown sugar, but is definitely light brown and more sticky than our white of today.

Buffypuff/ Claudia ~ Farmgirl & Sister #870 ~
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FebruaryViolet
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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  09:41:52 AM  Show Profile
Could be for the original recipe, Claudia, but by the time it made it to Theodocia in 1918, she was using white sugar.


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buffypuff
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Claudia
Deer Park WA
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  09:43:01 AM  Show Profile
I am anxious to try it....will be as you have written. Thanks so much for sharing!

Buffypuff/ Claudia ~ Farmgirl & Sister #870 ~
"It compliments God to ask great things of Him." ~ St. Theresa of Avila


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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 05 2011 :  09:50:21 AM  Show Profile
No problem, in fact, I'm making one this weekend, myself :) A co-worker made one for her mother's birthday last week and they all loved it! Good with a cold glass of milk!


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urban chickie
True Blue Farmgirl

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Catherine
Niles IL
USA
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Posted - Apr 06 2011 :  08:14:12 AM  Show Profile
Thought this article might interest you all.....
http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/PieHistory/SugarCreamPie.htm
I am hoping to crank out a pie crust before going to work, and making a pie tonight!

Catherine
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buffypuff
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Claudia
Deer Park WA
USA
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Posted - Apr 06 2011 :  3:26:29 PM  Show Profile
Interesting article Catherine. I remember even the Beatles singing of finger pie. Never understood it...thought it was an English thing.

Buffypuff/ Claudia ~ Farmgirl & Sister #870 ~
"It compliments God to ask great things of Him." ~ St. Theresa of Avila


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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  05:38:40 AM  Show Profile
Interesting article! If it has eggs, it then becomes a chess pie (in my opinion), which Kentucky seems to hold the rights to. Not really a favorite of mine, but it's so similar to all the other pies referenced (vinegar, custard, etc...)


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urban chickie
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Catherine
Niles IL
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  09:54:00 AM  Show Profile
OK, so I made the recipe found here:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/hoosier-sugar-cream-pie-recipe/index.html

I chose this recipe because it was given by the somewhat local shop that was on tv that got me interested in all this! They didn't mention the recipe on the local show (no wonder) but appear to have given it to the more national show at some point in the past. I liked it too because it was simpler, with no eggs or cornstarch or such, but had the brown sugar that intrigued me so. It is *delicious* but very, very sweet. A small slice will suffice! Deliciously caramel flavored. And easy peasy! Sort of shocked me as it bubbled up and even ran out of the pie plate a bit, because once it cooked it was rather thin. The one they made on tv looked about 4 times thicker and I wonder how they cooked it without it boiling over? Cause the filling seemed to be just right, not overdone.

I think the next one I make will be Jonni's version :)

All the recipes I have seen these past few days got me wondering and I want to try a version with just white sugar and maybe even one of the ones with eggs, just to compare. And they seem so similar, but I have never made/had a vinegar pie or buttermilk pie, so might have to eventually make those, too. I need more mouths to feed!! Need to make a master batch of crust, too, I guess lol.

Catherine
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FebruaryViolet
True Blue Farmgirl

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Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  10:57:37 AM  Show Profile
It's really interesting to experiment with recipes, isn't it? I have made a vinegar pie, but never a buttermilk. All in all, the vinegar pie reminds me of a chess pie (and a lemon chess pie and a chocolate chess pie :)). What I remember about the version my Great Grandmother made was how "white" it was, even baked with nutmeg and butter. All the cream and white sugar!!!

And, yes, it's a very sweet pie, too, but with an ice cold glass of milk, I bet you can choke a few slivers down

I'm making one this weekend, myself--all this talk of Hoosier/Shaker/Quaker/Amish/Mennonite Sugar Cream Pie has me hungry!


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