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one_dog_per_acre
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Trish
Sandpoint ID
USA
1572 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  07:34:48 AM  Show Profile
I really want a small dog. The smallest dog I've ever owned was 80 lbs. Every person I have known with a small breed had pee problems. My mom-friend, Dianne, has a Boston Terrier that has taken a year to potty train.
Basically what I am wondering is:

Have you successfully potty trained w/out pee pads? What breed and gender was your dog? Any insight would be helpful. Thank you.

Trish

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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl

3775 Posts

sherry
bend in the high desert oregon
USA
3775 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  07:49:00 AM  Show Profile
howdy there trish, i have a yorkie. i have had a few of them. i started with a play pen. first trained to it. their brain and awareness to things around them at first is small. as itty grew we made his world bigger. the instinct i think is to walk away from main living space and pee. to them when small thats the other side of room. i did the dog whisperer way. when they wake up out now to potty. if i fed out to potty if i groomed out to potty. NO FREE ROAMING. easier to prevent than to go back. my dog has a doggie door to an area that he is safe to go potty. it is fenced covered and hidden from hawks and bigger animals for night safety. if it is snowing or - degrees he will pee out there on his ramp. we also take our dogs on chores. so now all 3 do their business across in pasture. i never used pee pads. it was a lot of consistent work but well worth a pee free house. i know others will have ideas too. hope this helps you some. happy days sherrye

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one_dog_per_acre
True Blue Farmgirl

1572 Posts

Trish
Sandpoint ID
USA
1572 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  08:02:54 AM  Show Profile
No free roaming, meaning that after an activity or change in events, you don't let them go around the house until business is done? Or you don't let them have free reign over your house?

Trish

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nut4fabric
True Blue Farmgirl

885 Posts

Kathy
Morgan Hill CA
USA
885 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  08:11:51 AM  Show Profile
My daughter has a Min Pin, that is the smartest dog I have ever seen. She weighs just 5 pounds at two years old, was potty trained in a week and has not had an accident since. Daughters boyfriend also has a Min Pin that is 10 pounds, she is also very smart and no potty problems with her either. I am a big dog person (2 labs) but if we ever decide to get a small dog it will defiantly be a Min Pin.
Kathy
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Ingrid
True Blue Farmgirl

432 Posts

Ingrid
BC
Canada
432 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  10:08:40 AM  Show Profile
I have a shizu and no problems at all. But at the time he was a puppy I also had a German Shepherd that was horrified the first time the puppy did his business on the floor and that was the last time the puppy went in the house. So not sure if the puppy was smart or the German Shepherd was smarter.

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acairnsmom
True Blue Farmgirl

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audrey
cheyenne wy
1319 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  2:33:12 PM  Show Profile
My cairn pretty much potty trained himself. Kind of the way Sherry described. When he was left on is own it was either a crate or a small room (bathroom). As he got older he got to go into bigger rooms. They do not like to soil where they live. Now that he's an elderly gentlemen he has occasional accidents and though he never gets in trouble with us he feels deep shame.

Audrey

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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

11303 Posts

kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  8:02:42 PM  Show Profile
Trish, I got my 2 Rat Terrier sisters 13 1/2 years ago at 6 weeks old. I kept them in a little small crate at night. I would get up a few times during the night to let them out. They never had an accident inside. Until they got way older. I couldn't let them stay inside inside. Even in a crate they would pee. Now at 13 1/2, Zoe died in Jan. Sophie is still running around acting like a puppy. But I cannot let her in becuase she has a pee problem now. I have a room beside the garage that I have a heat lamp and some cushions for her and Bubba and the cats for when it's really cold. They are fine there. But I never had a problem when they were younger. Only now.

Kris

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Edited by - kristin sherrill on Mar 17 2011 04:00:21 AM
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kristin sherrill
True Blue Farmgirl

11303 Posts

kristin
chickamauga ga
USA
11303 Posts

Posted - Mar 16 2011 :  8:07:14 PM  Show Profile


That's Zoe on the left and Sophie on the right.

Happiness is simple.

Edited by - kristin sherrill on Mar 16 2011 8:07:55 PM
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cindymac
Farmgirl at Heart

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Cindy
Bakersfield California
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Posted - Mar 17 2011 :  12:25:39 AM  Show Profile
Hi Trish, I have 3 small dogs and a Lab. I must say that having an already housebroken dog really helps the new ones learn quickly. I have a friend who swears by the crate training. She leaves the pup in the crate unless he's being fed or played with. The pup is always taken out to do his business before doing anything else. I have been lucky with mine there has always been an older buddy here to teach. I have a chihuahua/terrier mix Cocoa she's 11 years old, a chihuahua/doxie mix Brindy she's about 3 years old (she was a rescue) and a mini doxie Ollie he's 11 months old & of course my lab Venus she's 5 years old & the love of my life!

Cindy
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walkinwalkoutcattle
True Blue Farmgirl

1675 Posts

Megan
Paint Lick KY
USA
1675 Posts

Posted - Mar 17 2011 :  05:05:41 AM  Show Profile
I have a min pin who's 4 years old. She's potty trained. I utilize the crate when I'm gone for long amounts of time. Although, if she has to go, and you don't let her out, (after her showing you she needs to go-scratching at the door, barking, etc.) she WILL go in the house. It's not her, as she lets you know! If she has an accident, it's usually due to someone not letting her out!

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one_dog_per_acre
True Blue Farmgirl

1572 Posts

Trish
Sandpoint ID
USA
1572 Posts

Posted - Mar 17 2011 :  06:43:11 AM  Show Profile
Thank you ladies for all of your input. It seems to me that it's all about frequency. I met a lady that had a teacup poodle that never had accidents after two months of training. She said she just took him out about every two hours. She never kept him out of any part of her 2000 sq. ft. home.
I do have an American Bulldog, that only poops in the woods and bushes, surrounding the dandelions, I mean, my husbands lawn. I know he'll be a good teacher. He's neutered, and only displayed agression against another dog one time, after being humped in the ear for three days, which is the other dog trying to dominate him.
I have decided against chihuahua and pomeranians, because I would be a mess if an injury occured. Hopefully I can find a rat terrier or mini pin mix at the pound for less than $300.

Here in W. Washington, rescues charge more for cute and potty trained dogs. I tried to save a cairn terrier yesterday, but I just can't spend $300, at the pound. Especially since the dog will need to be groomed, taken to MY vet, new bed, etc.

Wish me luck.

Trish

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pnickols
True Blue Farmgirl

808 Posts

Patricia
Parma Ohio
808 Posts

Posted - Mar 23 2011 :  05:07:13 AM  Show Profile
we have a Daschund/Jack Russell mix and I adore her. affectionate and so smart. loves to cuddle with you.
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Annika
True Blue Farmgirl

5602 Posts

Annika

USA
5602 Posts

Posted - Mar 23 2011 :  06:45:13 AM  Show Profile
I think that this is my own fault as much as the dog in question. I am used to large dogs, and then got a Pom. I tried to train him like I've trained other dogs, but no soap. Mr' Pook is 6 now and has refused my every attempt to train him. He is only allowed out of his crate with a belly band/diaper on. I have been told by my vet that some small dogs just pee. We'll take him out for a good long walk and he'll come right in and piddle on the floor. I love Pook, but I'll never have another small dog. Don't mean to be a downer, just wanted to tell my side of it.

That being said, I do hope that you give a little dog a chance. They are active, affectionate and lovely little friends =)

Annika
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sherrye
True Blue Farmgirl

3775 Posts

sherry
bend in the high desert oregon
USA
3775 Posts

Posted - Mar 23 2011 :  07:39:55 AM  Show Profile
well here i am with an opinion again. i just love my yorkie. he is so smart. so i am biased. i think it is more about containment than even frequency. unless pushed dogs normally will not foul their bed. so on my lap or in a crate but not free running of house. the house is bigger than the dog can comprehend. the dog whisperer has a book and videos on training. hope this helps. let us know if you get one. happy days sherrye

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ddmashayekhi
True Blue Farmgirl

4814 Posts

Dawn
Naperville Illinois
USA
4814 Posts

Posted - Mar 23 2011 :  08:25:47 AM  Show Profile
I had a West Highland White Terrier (Westie) for 16 years. She was a terffic dog, but not good with kids. She was house broken in the spring and after that wasn't a problem. I did keep her in a cage while I was at work. If the kids didn't get her outside when they got home from school she would sometimes have an accident. But that only happened if she had been in there for too long.

Good luck finding the right breed for you!
Dawn in IL
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one_dog_per_acre
True Blue Farmgirl

1572 Posts

Trish
Sandpoint ID
USA
1572 Posts

Posted - Mar 25 2011 :  9:59:37 PM  Show Profile
I spent time with a Terrier/Chihuahua. It takes a special person to love a small dog. It reminded me of having a baby. I think that I can only love Mastiff breeds, like bulldogs, pitt bulls, maybe I'd try a pug. I really have taken for granted how wonderful my American Bulldog Mix is. I am made for these dogs. Maybe it's because I love being the boss.

Trish

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one_dog_per_acre
True Blue Farmgirl

1572 Posts

Trish
Sandpoint ID
USA
1572 Posts

Posted - Apr 07 2011 :  08:52:25 AM  Show Profile
Here's Tina. She is a year and a half old. We got her from friends that have too much going on. I love her so much. She is doing VERY well on her potty training.



Trish

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acairnsmom
True Blue Farmgirl

1319 Posts

audrey
cheyenne wy
1319 Posts

Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  8:42:43 PM  Show Profile
My! What a pretty girl! Congratulations, I can tell you're already head over heals for her.

Audrey

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ChickieMama
True Blue Farmgirl

303 Posts

Angela
Banks Oregon
USA
303 Posts

Posted - Apr 08 2011 :  11:15:07 PM  Show Profile
I have 2 chihuahuas and they are so loving, great with kids, and very smart. They go potty outside and are very portable! So easy to take on road trips and camping!

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adnama
True Blue Farmgirl

171 Posts

inge
fargo north dakota
USA
171 Posts

Posted - Apr 10 2011 :  01:00:47 AM  Show Profile
My darling mother in law raised tea cup chawawas, She lived in a garden level unit at the time, One of the puppies that she was trying to train was very resistent to all her efforts. She got so frustrated with the dog she would scoop her up and drop her out the window to the ground below.. this occured quite a few times until the dog finally decieded she got it. Puppy would still puddle; then jump on the chair, onto the table and jump out the window on her own. Yes she was finally trained but she was slower to learn than the others.
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