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Barnyard Buddies: So tired of rural loose dogs!  |
countrymommy85
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Krystle
MT
USA
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Posted - Feb 28 2011 : 07:42:04 AM
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Unfortunately I have had a similar experience. I don't want to get into detail but I still have nightmares about it. Here is a brief version of the story. I got back from the feedmill with my one month old baby to find half of our chickens, last 3 runner ducks, 4 meat ducks (out of 11) and my pet rooster dead from a dog in the yard. I didn't see the dog at first so I got out of the car then I saw the dog and ran into the house (thankfully I didn't have it locked!) and got my husband's gun to scare if off. When I got back out it was trying to jump through the window, growling and foaming at the mouth to get at my now crying one month old. I shot the dog, knowing once they kill they will be back. No dog willing to attack a human is worth having around running at large. I called the cops, they came down, wrote a report and of course no one claimed to own the dog.
I never had a problem since, thankfully. Seeing that rural dog trying its hardest to jump through the window to get at my baby was the most disturbing thing I have ever seen. Shame on people for dumping dogs in the country. We live so far out in the country I can leave my baby in the swing and get her a bottle and come out and not worry about her getting kidnapped or hurt. . . until people started dropping dogs off out here.
While I never want to minimize the loss of animals, I am so thankful that dog was just a small pit bull and couldn't make it through the half way rolled down car window. I never would have thought it would have came after her. So sad people turn dogs, nice OR mean out in the country to fend for themselves. I hope no one else has the situation I did, and I hope you can solve the rural dog problem by you! Good luck!
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henlady35904
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Kim
Gadsden
Alabama
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 06:38:37 AM
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Krystal, I am so sorry about your loss. Thank goodness you and your baby was ok. |
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prairie
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Anna
Plainfield
IL
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 2:11:47 PM
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I have read all the posts on this discussion, and I have to say my heart is pounding out of my chest right now. I do not live in the country so I don't know what you are going through with the demise of your rabbits and chickens . To me people are to blame for this problem not the dogs. I do not want to offend but are the bunnies and chicks in proper pens? Are the bunnies you raise for show or do you sell them for food? Humans need to learn to respect animals, they are not here for our entertainment. The anger in some of these posts against these dogs scare me. To own a gun does not give you almighty powers. It's a shame so many people by you don't take care of their dogs. But again they don't respect them, they are just a dog, who cares I can get another one anytime. How sad.
Anna, The Vegan Farmgirl #595
Being a vegan saves over 100 animals a year.
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Bear5
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13055 Posts
Louisiana/Texas
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 3:33:33 PM
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Anna, yes alot of us get very angry about dogs killing our livestock and pets. When you loose your food to dogs ( they usually don't kill for food, but for fun, tear apart a whole coops worth), get into rabbit barns and literaly pull the rabbits thru the wire, the after math is dead and dieing rabbits missing legs etc...foals, calves, kids and lambs, torn to pieces, horses and other large livestock run thru fences, and I could go on and on...I have dogs, they NEVER leave my property, and I have had more than my share of damage due to "DOGS", and never wildlife, and YES you are correct, it is the owners fault, not the dogs, but once the dogs have started, and they will not stop, and the owners don't care...there is no choice left...and yes when you ranch or farm, this is your livelyhood...so you have guns, and know how to use them when the need arises. I never want to kill an animal just because, but I do for food (as humanly as possible, no torture), and I will protect my animals and human lives as needed...
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Sheep Mom 2
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Sheri
Elk
WA
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 4:02:32 PM
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Anna the problems with strays around here aren't just neighborhood dogs running around. A lot of the animals around here are dumped - cats and dogs and they are looking for food. They often will pack together just like wild animals and will attack kids at the school bus as quickly as livestock. Animal control may or may not show up. An Emu farm down the road finally gave up and shut down they had so much trouble with dogs running their birds and the county doing nothing. No one wants to shoot an animal but once they get a taste for blood they will never give up. Once they breed and have ferral offspring the offspring is very difficult or nearly impossible to tame (or even catch although traps do help with cats). At one time I had 35 ferral cats here and I don't own a cat. It was a nightmare. I have been lucky enough to not have to have shot a dog but coyotes are another scourge that will attack sheep. These animals are our food, our livelihood and part of the family. I spent close to $10,000 putting up special 6 foot fencing to keep my neighbors dogs and kids off my property and away from my very friendly cows. I was terrified that the neighborhood kids who liked to wander around (ages 4 - 8) would get in the pasture with the cows and get stepped on and we would get sued. So yes, I am angry when facing a huge expenditure to protect my animals from strays - 4 legged and 2. I am angry that the county doesn't enforce the laws already on the books. I am also angry and sad that humans could be so disconnected that they would dump animals in the country rather than take them to a shelter. I have even seen an abandoned goat tied to a tree on the side of the road. I don't ever want to arbitrarily shoot anything but I will protect my livestock.
Blessings, Sheri
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RedHoopWoman
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Kathryn
Yoder
Colorado
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 4:23:56 PM
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I have a dog,he's a very good dog and he never leaves my property unless I'm with him,it's really very simple if people want to keep thier dog safe and alive to just do the right thing and keep him at home,alot of things can happen to a loose roaming dog aside from people like me with big guns and almighty powers.(sorry,I was a bit snarky there) I have my animals properly contained within thier cages,behind fences and in small barns,it really wouldn't matter if they were running loose even as long as they were confined within my property (the dog is trespassing) but to elaborate,my rabbits are in individual wire cages and in a small barn with a latching chain link door,I have gone to reasonable measures to protect them from intruders but a persistent animal like this one particular dog will always find a way into any enclosure. It doesn't really matter what the livestock is for,whether they are show animals,meat or just for petting,the point is that they are MY animals and I have a duty and interest in protecting them from intruders and whether I use a gun or strangle a dog with my bare hands I will do what is necessary to protect my livestock. Negligent dog owners force me to take the necessary steps to protect my animals and property from destruction,if people kept thier dogs at home or didn't dump thier unwanted pets into rural areas,this wouldn't even be an issue but unfortunately it's a very big issue for rural land and livestock owners everywhere. I do have anger towards these dogs and the people who own them,I don't like dogs,you have me there Anna,I am capable of killing one and not feeling much about it,dogs are just not pets to me,I don't identify with them the way other people do,I don't fault anyone for loving thier dogs though,I just want them to keep thier beloved pets safe and home where they can continue to be thier beloved pets rather than be shot and dumped in an arroyo or run over by a semi (no,I don't drive a semi but I would run over dogs with it if I did) I have lost numerous animals through the years in various locales I have lived to roaming dogs,one of my horses as a foal was run into a fence by dogs looking for a fun game,he suffered terrible lacerations,pain and has scars for the rest of his life,I paid out a four hundred dollar vet bill for it that was never reimbursed. Anyways,I understand that people have strong opinions,I don't believe in kiling anything indiscriminately but I'm very through with being nice,I don't have a Disney perspective or a god complex just because I have guns though I will send trespassing livestock killing dogs to the almighty if I am called upon to do so,that's just rural life and it all comes out in the wash.
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prairie
Farmgirl in Training
 
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Anna
Plainfield
IL
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 4:42:02 PM
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I do sympathize with your situation. I live in the burbs and I only walk down certain streets because I have many neighbors that let their dogs roam free. They are to cheap to put up a fence, or have those electric fences that I am not fond of.
Why do some many people in the country dump their dogs, cats or livestock?
I would love to live in the country, but with what goes on it would be very hard for me to hold my tounge.
It comes down to respect for all living creatures. People believe that animals are disposable, and that they are here to serve us.
We have coyotes living in a neighborhood, and I treasure every time I get to see them. I walk my dog and they will stop and stare at each other then walk away.
It's to bad your law officials do not care. A lot animals who started out life innocent are now suffering because of humans who don't give a care. I can't get my brain around it. I do protesting against puppy mills, boycott companies who animal test and live a vegan lifestyle.
It sounds like the neighbors that have been contacted about their loose dogs don't care about their pets, or whatever they are to them. So I would be correct in saying they don't care about most people either. They are angry mixed up people.
Anna, The Vegan Farmgirl #595
Being a vegan saves over 100 animals a year.
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prairie
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Anna
Plainfield
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USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 4:49:42 PM
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Hi Kathryn,
One question, it's very clear you do not like dogs. Not to sound rude but, then why do you have one?
Anna, The Vegan Farmgirl #595
Being a vegan saves over 100 animals a year.
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Sheep Mom 2
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Sheri
Elk
WA
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 5:31:57 PM
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It's not country people dumping animals - it's city people driving out to the country and dumping unwanted animals. It's people who get cute little animals for easter and then they grow up and they dump them on the side of the road. It's folks who like the kitten or the puppy but not the adult. Who do you go after? There is no way of knowing who the dumper was. I'm glad you enjoy seeing the coyotes and I do enjoy listening to them but where there is one there are many and they can be very destructive. They will eat cats and small dogs out of peoples yards and even lure dogs to their deaths. Coyotes are everywhere even in cities. They do serve a purpose - they keep the rodent population down. As long as they do it outside of my pasture that's wonderful. I have even had them stupid enough to challenge a full grown pig in broad daylight!
Blessings, Sheri
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RedHoopWoman
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Kathryn
Yoder
Colorado
USA
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Posted - Mar 01 2011 : 7:37:45 PM
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Hi Anna, It sounds like you have much the same situation with loose roaming dogs in your area as well,I think it's everywhere,city or country and there are no real easy answers to the problem of people not properly containing and caring for thier animals. I respect that you are a vegan and that you like coyotes (I have no problem with coyotes) and do not want animals in servitude to you,I think everyone is entitled to thier opinions and beliefs,I have always lived a rural lifestyle,worked for ranchers and raised livestock so I'm sure there are a great many things you and I would not agree upon but I have respect for anyone who lives according to thier beliefs,I am very open-minded to different lifestyles as long as people are open to mine. I have lost fewer animals to wild predators such as coyotes,foxes and hawks than I have to loose dogs,a coyote might take a chicken and run off with it whereas a dog will kill a whole flock just for entertainment,I have more respect for the wild animal and use alot of discretion when it comes to trapping or killing wild predators,not that I won't do it but that I find it easier to live in relative harmony with wild animals than I do domestic dogs,wild animals have never caused the losses or made as much of an impact on my livestock. Like Sheri said,it's often not country people who are dumping thier dogs but city people often drive out here to rural places and dump thier unwanted dogs or other critters because for some reason they don't want to take them to the animal shelters,find homes for them,etc..why do they do this? I don't know,you'll have to ask them. I have done my part in trying to assist animals that are abandoned,I have donated my time to horse rescues and done free training,trimming and shoeing,etc..I have trapped feral cats and neutered/spayed them and found homes for them or kept them as barn cats and my own dog now is one that was dumped at a friend's boarding stable,I took him home because he was a good dog and needed a home. No,I don't like dogs as a general rule,I guess you could say I really don't like untrained pet dogs but working dogs like mine who guard my livestock and are pleasant and well behaved are alright by me,I'm actually very impressed by well trained working livestock guardians or herding dogs,those are sure alright by me. So to sum it up,I'm not out there with my shotgun and my almighty powers just blowing away every dog I see and as far as my dog goes,he's a great dog and I treat him well but he is not a pet to me but more like a partner,he earns his keep and he watches my animals and my daughter,he's sure alright by me but I don't need a dog just to pet on,if he was the type of dog who wasn't safe around livestock or children I wouldn't have abided his presence at all. I have a burmese python,some people are horrified and don't consider snakes as pets,well,I like the big slug and plan to keep her around but I take responsibility for her and keep her contained,if she were to bust out and ingest the neighbor's pug I couldn't very well get angry if that neighbor plugged her with a shotgun,could I? It's the same with these loose dogs,I don't care what people keep as pets,if they have dogs,snakes,monkeys,porcupines,tarantulas,whatever,but I have a right to not have thier pet come and kill my animals or put me or mine in any danger and I respect thier rights as well and keep my animals under control. No,I don't like dogs but I do like my dog and have had other dogs in the past that I like,if they have a use to me,they can stick around,just having one around to pet on just isn't much use to me but it might be of use to you or to other people who like them as pets,that's fine,I'm just not one of them. I respect animals and life,I don't kill indiscriminately but I am comfortable with doing so when I have to,I know that a farmer,rancher or hunter can have the same respect for life as a vegan,like I said,there are alot of things that you and I probably won't agree on,we're from different backgrounds and beliefs that way but I think it's good that you live the way you do,I try to understand you and where you're coming from and hope that you will try to understand me even if we don't agree or feel the same way,we're just different in alot of ways but that doesn't mean we don't have some common ground.
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prairie
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Anna
Plainfield
IL
USA
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 06:06:38 AM
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Believe me I understand in protecting what is yours. I would be angry if a stray dog came onto my property to hurt my dog. I guess I think the other way, I would try to take down the owners. Make life unpleasant for them.
I am very mindful of how my furry family member acts. The only animals I have in my fenced yard are rabbits, squirrels and chipmunks. Also, the hawks who sit on my fence posts to eat their lunch. Daily I protect them from my dog who is a Basenji who wants them very badly.
I guess I was reacting to the way you said you shot the dog. It sounded very proud, and it rattled me. Also, when you said if you had a semi you would run dogs over.
We are from two very different lifestyles, and we can agree to disagree.
Anna, The Vegan Farmgirl #595
Being a vegan saves over 100 animals a year.
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CountryBorn
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Mary Jane
New York
USA
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 06:49:25 AM
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I just wanted to say that I am very impressed with the way you 2 talked this out. You are both very different from each other, yet you took the time to talk with each other and come to the conclusion to agree to disagree. It could of been extremely nasty and hurtful to both parties, but, you were mature enough and open minded enough to choose to talk instead of attack. I wish more things on this board and in this world could be handled this way.Kudos to both of you and all the responders.
MJ
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RedHoopWoman
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Kathryn
Yoder
Colorado
USA
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 07:05:44 AM
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Hi Ladies! I'm not out to crucify anyone for thier opinions and I'm sorry Anna if I came across a bit hardhearted,I was being a bit too snarky with my comment about the semi and I do apologize,I just felt from one of your initial posts that you thought I was out there blowing away every dog I see and that's not the truth,I'm not out to kill anyone's dog if I don't have to,I have tried peaceful resolution with the dog owners but when that fails I am left with no choice but to protect my animals any way that I can and I felt more relief than pride over having shot that recent dog,I'm sorry it came across like I was celebrating. Like I said,I do have alot of respect for the vegan lifestyle because I see it as really living your beliefs and ideals and I have alot of respect for that,even though it's not my lifestyle I think it's great to have such strong ideals and to live it. I'm very against CAFOS and other such tragedies of industrial farming and so I live the way I do and raise alot of our own animals and buy from local farmers so that way I opt out of the current industrial farming market so I live according to my beliefs and ethics as well though just not quite the same way as you do so I think you and I have alot of common ground though we don't share the same perspectives or lifestyles I think we have some of the same base motives for living the way we do. Anyways,I have no hard feelings and really enjoy the diversity of this board and appreciate hearing other perspectives,if we surrounded ourselves all the time with people who were the same and thought the same we would have real boring monotonous conversations!
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DyaLynn53
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Dianne
Roseburg
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 07:31:24 AM
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Ditto's Kathryn; you've said it all in a very straightforward and eloquent manner, didn't sound a bit like you were "proud" of being forced by irresponsible neighbors into having to kill their dog.
A couple years ago whe had a neighbor whose two dogs threatened my husband and I as we were out walking on our fenced property. Fortunately they ran home after we shouted and threw rocks at them but my dh immediately called the neighbor and told him that the next time his dogs were seen on our place they would be shot on sight as we wouldn't live in fear of being attacked by roaming pets. The man managed to keep them home after that.
This world isn't a Disney movie with all the little animals living together in sweet harmony until their lives are suddenly destroyed by the nasty humans. Can't stand that distorted Disney c**p. IMHO country folk have more respect for animals, wild or domesticated, than most folks have in their little finger; we're just straightforward, matter-of fact, down-to-earth realists that's all, and you do what you have to in order to protect your family and livestock. I don't know anyone who "enjoys" killing an animal even when you kill an animal for food you don't "enjoy" it, it's not fun it's just a simple fact of the way life is. Rogue dogs kill for fun and they cost people thousands of dollars that are seldom recouped from the irresponsible people who don't keep them home. And as far as running over dogs, or any animal if it's out running the roads it's a danger to drivers. I had a friend die years ago because she swerved to miss a dog on the road, ran off the road and was killed. If it's safe to brake to avoid hitting an animal I will do so but I will not risk my life swerving to miss any animal unless it's a moose or an elk or anything else car sized. I'm not as well spoken as Kathryn so I'll shut up and let her words stand.
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prairie
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Anna
Plainfield
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 08:06:45 AM
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Mary Jane, thank you for the kind words!
Anna, The Vegan Farmgirl #595
Being a vegan saves over 100 animals a year.
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RedHoopWoman
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Kathryn
Yoder
Colorado
USA
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 08:43:13 AM
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Yes,Mary Jane,thank you for saying what you did,we appreciate it,I'm sorry I missed your post initially and didn't comment earlier,I'm glad as well that we can both be open minded despite our differences and I appreciate the open dialogue,take care ladies and bright blessings to you!
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Sheep Mom 2
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Sheri
Elk
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 09:14:23 AM
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I have no problem with the Vegan lifestyle either and do not wish to come off heavy handed either. The roaming/dumped animal issue has cost a lot of us dear in this area and so emotions tend to run high. My room mate for the winter is a Vegan so that was never an issue for me. I think it's very difficult for people who live in the burbs to understand truly what it's like to live rural and what we contend with. I would never choose to kill anything if there was a viable alternative. As to my sheep - they are kept for their fiber and not for their meat and also for natural weed/fire control. I am a big supporter of humanely raised animals and think what the big commercial operations are doing to animals a travesty. I am so glad that this conversation has been a lesson in open mindedness and civility for all. I worried that perhaps Anna you would be offended and I certainly didn't want that. We need all viewpoints in order to create balance in the world. I am relieved to have witnessed it here this morning.
Blessings, Sheri
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prairie
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Anna
Plainfield
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 09:17:11 AM
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Kathryn,
It was nice having a conversation with you. I hope our paths will cross again in other discussions.
Anna, The Vegan Farmgirl #595
Being a vegan saves over 100 animals a year.
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RedHoopWoman
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Kathryn
Yoder
Colorado
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Posted - Mar 02 2011 : 12:05:09 PM
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It's great talking with you too Anna,we may be different but I have a good feeling about you and I think you're a good gal to know. Sheri I definitely agree with what you had to say,it is very hard I think for urban people to identify with the challenges we face as rural livestock owners and vice versa,I think one of the issues is that alot of people in urban environments experience and interact with animals (all of them) as pets whereas we interact with them as livestock and have to make some harder life versus death and profit versus loss decisions that you just don't have to make when you are only keeping animals for companionship. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with identifying with animals as pets,hell,my own Mum is kind of a crazy cat lady and will keep an old laying hen as a pet until it dies a natural death whereas I cull out my hens after awhile,so my Mum is rather softhearted and I'm a little more pragmatic and hardhearted that way but we love eachother for our differences. I think conflict arises between rural and urban people because of the different perspectives we grew up with and sometimes they can be real tough to iron out. I do try real hard to get along and understand other perspectives but I have a hard time compromising or softening my convictions and I won't ask someone else of differing opinion to compromise thiers either,I think in this world we all sure need to stand up for something but we don't need to maliciously butt heads about it either so I'm real glad with how things have turned out here.
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BalancingAct
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Jackie
Hoosierville
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Posted - Mar 16 2011 : 9:20:53 PM
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Hi all....just wanted to add a lighter tidbit here. We've been talking about dogs being dumped out in the country. My dog was what I call a "dumper". I actually witnessed the "dumping" of her on the country road while sitting on/hanging out with my horse. And the car sped away. Just left her(the puppy) there in the snow. I got down off my horse and walked to the road where she sat bewildered, scared and cold. She was the cutest puppy at 6-7months. So I invited her to come home with me. My husband and I had been talking about getting a dog anyway. That was 10+ years ago and I couldn't have asked God for a better dog. I honestly believe that God had his hands in this one!!!
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therealshari
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Shari
Beryl
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Posted - Mar 17 2011 : 1:02:47 PM
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I just can't resist the need to chime in. I too, am impressed with the way y'all have handled this issue.
Here in SW Utah, most every one of us has dogs. We have six (4 of whom are absolutely useless, but are cuddly loves). One of our dogs is a good farm dog and protects our property. The other is a Border Collie pup who will become our sheep dog.
Our neighbors are at least 1/4 mile apart. Their dogs are fairly well contained. Some folks about a mile down the road raise Chihuahua's, and tend to let them run all over the place. Fortunately, they don't run this far.
One neighbor about 1 1/2 miles north of us allowed their dogs to roam. They killed a cow and a prized bull calf, and then attacked a neighbors lambs. Earlier, and unknown to us, they had killed some ducks at another neighbor's. They've received 3 tickets for allowing their dogs to run, and have been put on notice. If their dogs are running loose, they won't return home.
As the sheriff put it. He doesn't want to have to come all the way out here to solve a dog problem when we already know the law is on our side.
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walkinwalkoutcattle
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Megan
Paint Lick
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Posted - Mar 17 2011 : 1:38:51 PM
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We had a large great pyranees on our farm yesterday-it even had a collar! No tag though. :( It was probably a dump, and I couldnt get it to follow me, so there was really nothing I could do. It seemed injured. I took pictures, posted them on my facebook, on Craigslist and on freecycle, but, nobody said it was theirs, so I had to just let him be. I made sure to tell him that he could stay here if he wanted, and he'd have food and water, but, I couldn't make him follow me, and if he left it was his doing! He was gone 5 minutes later. It makes me so angry!!! We live way out in the middle of nowhere-when dogs come around like that they're usually dumped. :(
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