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aunt boby
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toby
polo illinois
USA
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  06:50:02 AM  Show Profile
After viewing Food Inc., I'm convinced we should raise our own meat. When it warms up around here I would like to get some hogs. I would like to put them out on pasture. The dh says we should keep them on the cement next to the barn. His reason for this is he does not want them to rut up our good pasture that we rotate our goats on. So, do pigs rut out of boredom? Does anyone still put rings in their snouts? Do all pigs rut or just certain breeds? I would really like to try it just once to see if there is a difference between feedlot or pasture raised pork. Any input would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Alee
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Alee
Worland Wy
USA
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  07:20:35 AM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
I know that if you keep them in a small area they do tear up the ground quite a bit. I know some people use them to loosen the soil above a spot for a garden if they have hard soil- however I would think that if you had a large enough pasture they would be fine. However that is just assumption- I have no real life experience.

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sherrye
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sherry
bend in the high desert oregon
USA
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  07:24:15 AM  Show Profile
goodmorning, we raise a lot of pigs each year. we only have 2 now. pigs rut and dig naturally. they like to eat bugs and roots etc. some breeds rut less. i can understand the concrete. thing is not very natural. they love running and being with other pigs. we always raise more than one. when we sell the one it pays the cost of ours. i have never used a nose ring. it appears to me the breeds with longer snouts dig more. also if they are needing a mineral they will root more.we feed ours alfalfa and grass hay and grain. they always taste better than store bought. i like hamp-duroc cross. just a thought sherrye

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Alee
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Alee
Worland Wy
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  07:41:40 AM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
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1badmamawolf
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Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  08:18:48 AM  Show Profile
They all rut to some degree, and if you have tree's in your pasture, they will destroy them, also your fenceing has to be hog proof. If you have other livestock in your pasture with them , some hogs will become territory aggressive and can hurt/kill the other livestock. I do not keep mine on cememt, but we do have some major ground repair every year.

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aunt boby
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toby
polo illinois
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  08:21:11 AM  Show Profile
Ok so I am a dolt! Apparently they "root" up the ground. When they rut is whole other topic. Now I'm laughing at myself after rereading my post. Anywho, thank you Alee that site is very informative.

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kristin sherrill
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kristin
chickamauga ga
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  08:54:45 AM  Show Profile
I have raised hogs on pasture. This last time I got 4 castrated 3 month old boys. I put them in my big field garden. They were great there. It was the last part of Sept. I was done in that garden so I thought they could eat all the leftover garden stuff. They did. That lasted a few months. They grew very fast. I gave them goat milk and lots of scraps, too. They had a ball out there. They had a little pond area, too. But when they got bigger is when the trouble started. First off, I have chain link up one side and in the front part. Not good for pigs at all. They can go right under it. So I put rebar and rocks and anything I could find to keep them in. Then they started getting out into the chicken yard. Then they started getting out into our yard. Have you ever seen anyone chasing 4 200 pound pigs around? Good excercise, but NO FUN! Then they started wanting MORE food because it was winter and no forage. So I was constantly carrying 5 gallon buckets of feed and scraps. I was begging people for their scraps. They were drinking gallons of warm milk. I had to start hiding from them because every time I went outside they'd see me and try to get out. I was scared of them then. They went to the butcher in JAn. last year and that was the happiest day of my life. I was SO glad to see them go. And yes, the meat was very good. I still have tons of sausage.

Anyway, yes, they tore up the whole pasture out there. Garden and all. A year later it's still trying to repair itself. I think they ate 2 of my ducks. The first 2 I had almost ate a baby goat. It was a nightmare. So no more pigs for me. A friend is going to start raising them so I will get one from her. She is going to do the nose rigs next time.

Kris

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1badmamawolf
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Teresa
"Bent Fence Farms" Ca
USA
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  08:59:22 AM  Show Profile
I continued on with the "rut" theme, as to not embarress anyone,lol.

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4HMom
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Kelly
Montana
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Posted - Feb 13 2010 :  09:35:59 AM  Show Profile
My cousins have large blacks...a species that thrives on pasture. They're in the pasture with the goats most of the day and do fine. Their pasture does have a strand of hotwire and that has done a great job of keeping the pigs from digging out. Large blacks are one of the breeds that don't root around a lot (and their meat is UNBELIEVABLEY delicious...and high in Omega 3 fats). We are going to raise one of their weaner pigs this summer with our other weaner pigs. I am serious about being able to tell the difference in flavor and texture with the large blacks.

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