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mom2my2boyz
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Sarah
MN
USA
56 Posts

Posted - Aug 07 2009 :  09:59:21 AM  Show Profile
Ok, so I was making dill pickles and the recipe calls for alum. I went to the store, intending to buy some, but I looked at the ingredients (it's just a habit) and saw that it's aluminum-somthing (aluminum sulfate? aluminum phosphate?). What in the world?! I don't want to put aluminum in my food!!! Is this a different kind of alulminum that isn't bad for you?? Is it absolutely necessary to make good pickles? Does anyone know about this? I'd appreciate any insight!
Thanks, Girls!

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Tapestry
True Blue Farmgirl

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Cheryl
Wisconsin
USA
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Posted - Aug 07 2009 :  10:41:34 AM  Show Profile  Send Tapestry a Yahoo! Message
Here's the skinny on alum. http://www.ochef.com/1080.htm It's used to help make crisp pickles however in this modern day of canning this article says there's really no need to use it any longer. I'd just leave it out of the recipe if it was me. Happy pickling!

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Bellepepper
True Blue Farmgirl

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Belle
Coffeyville KS
USA
1207 Posts

Posted - Aug 07 2009 :  11:33:32 AM  Show Profile
I'm wondering what "modern day of canning" means. I have used the same recipe and method for canning dill pickles for 50 years. My recipe calls for 1/8 tsp of alum in each qt jar. Now, you have got me wondering. If I can round up enough cucks for another batch of pickles, I'll try a few jars without alum. We'll do a comparison thing..

Belle
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

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Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
2900 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2009 :  03:38:25 AM  Show Profile
Have you even gotten this stuff in your mouth?

you'll be searching for a glass of water immediately!

it's super drying
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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

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Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
2900 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2009 :  03:42:46 AM  Show Profile
And I have gone way overboard in using this for my pickles. Luckily I haven't mad ein for a few years now

Looks like i'll be searching foe a better recipe

and forgive my ignaornace, but didn't realize that cukes for pickling are picked at a smaller size and are usually bitter...as opposed to the larger ones we eat on salads

oops! last batches made, I used salad cukes

so maybe if you use the smaller cukes, an additive for crispness may not be needed after all

you learn something new every day!
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mellaisbella
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melanie
living on Anne of Green Gables land
Canada
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Posted - Aug 08 2009 :  11:49:18 AM  Show Profile
good info gals....would be interesting to see a comparision...let us know Belle:)

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brightmeadow
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2045 Posts

Brenda
Lucas Ohio
USA
2045 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2009 :  7:36:14 PM  Show Profile
I read a recipe tonight that called for a grape leaf in each jar to help crisp-up the pickles. The recipe didn't call for alum, or even any salt. Any experience with this?

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mom2my2boyz
True Blue Farmgirl

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Sarah
MN
USA
56 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2009 :  7:56:38 PM  Show Profile
Thanks for the different ideas, Girls! I think I'll take my chances and hope for the best - not using alum. Just doesn't seem right to be putting something I avoid like the plague (aluminum) into my food! Belle, I'll be very interested in hearing your results! Please be sure to let us all know! :o)
Thanks so much!!

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Rivergirl_2007
True Blue Farmgirl

332 Posts

Shirley
Karnak IL
USA
332 Posts

Posted - Aug 08 2009 :  9:16:13 PM  Show Profile
I just purchased a great book that recommends using grape,sour cherry, or oak leaves to make crisp and really green pickles. I also talkes about using alum. The only time I did, I obviously did not rinse enough times. I am going to make a trip to a local vineyard to see if I can get some grape leaves. I've been wanting to do that anyway because I finally learned how to preserve them for stuffed grape leaves. Anyway, the book is called "The Joy of Pickling by Linda Ziedrich. It has 250 recipes for vegetables and more and I can hardly wait to try some of them.
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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl

2045 Posts

Brenda
Lucas Ohio
USA
2045 Posts

Posted - Aug 09 2009 :  04:15:46 AM  Show Profile
My recipe book said you could use either wild or cultivated grape leaves - since I live across from a public reservoir with lots of woods, I won't have to go far to get some wild ones!

You shall eat the fruit of the labor of your hands - You shall be happy and it shall be well with you. -Psalm 128.2
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