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redfish4alder
Farmgirl in Training
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Sarah
Seattle
Washington
USA
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 Posted - Apr 12 2009 : 3:58:25 PM
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I suddenly became the owner of 12 very large rose plants a few weeks ago, and though I am very excited to have lots of beautiful flowers, I don't really have any idea how to take care of them. I've done some research, and I planted them with lime/top soil/rose food this weekend, but as far as pest control, dose anyone know of some tricks to keep the aphids and black spot away?
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SuzieQ
True Blue Farmgirl
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Suzie
Texas
USA
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Posted - Apr 12 2009 : 4:21:11 PM
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| How wonderful for you. Can they be started by cuttings. I am looking for old rose ushes and they are harder to find than I thought. I have heard that they can be started from cuttings, but that is all I just heard. |
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl
1054 Posts
Anne
Portland
Or
USA
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Posted - Apr 12 2009 : 5:02:40 PM
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lady bugs are the best for aphids. If you don't have any lady bugs in your garden, go in with a neighbor or friend and you can purchase them at a local garden center - usually they come in a large quantity and would be best to share with someone. Also encouraging birds in your yard will help with the aphids. I notice that house sparrows love to sit on my climbing rose on the porch and eat aphid after aphid off the bush. Make sure they are pruned properly so that air can move freely through the plant, that helps with black spot along with planting them in a area that gets sun for most of the day so that mildew does not set in.
Anne in Portland, OR
"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl
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Alee
Worland
Wy
USA
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Tina Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl
6948 Posts
Tina
sunshine state
FL
USA
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Posted - Apr 13 2009 : 12:46:09 AM
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to help prevent the black spot do not water late in the evening... this is because the water will stay on the leaves and not have adequate time to evaporate thus increasing the chance of fungus and disease/also do not let water (other than rain of course) get on the leaves when you water the plants/best to water them at the base of the rose bush to prevent the blackspot/fungus.
consider companion plantings to keep bugs at bay..roses love garlic and other plants that are in the garlic/onion families...these companion plants help to repel the bad bugs.
if aphids are a problem you can mix together about 2 tablespoons of cooking oil, 2-3 drops of dish soap into a large garden spray bottle filled the rest of the way with water/shake and spray on both the tops and underside of the leaves..this is the one time spraying the leaves with a water mixture comes in handy..the oil/soap/water combination sprayed on the leaves helps to kill the aphids.
Also a good jetting with the hose set on "jet" spray can help rid them of the aphids too...but do this when you can be assured that the excess water on the plant has a chance to evaporate and not just set on the leaves.
Live Ladybugs (as mentioned above) can be purchased sometimes from stores like Lowes and Home Depot.
Make sure that you provide about 24 inch spacing between the roses/each rose bush to give them ample air flow...and keep the dead canes pruned out.
Best of wishes.Good luck.
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl
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Alee
Worland
Wy
USA
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nitere
True Blue Farmgirl
482 Posts
Amy
Hickory
NC
USA
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KD Earthwork
True Blue Farmgirl
210 Posts
Katie
Gualala
Calif.
USA
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Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 10:03:01 PM
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In my day I've maintained three thousand roses and had a rose propagating business.The best disease prevention is just that prevent it.The watering recommendations were great above.I usually dormant spray at least twice fall and early spring,before bud break.This is what I think is the least toxic way to maintain them,or at least start them off healthy.Roses love manure,I use copious quantities as mulch,plenty of water and light and they should do well for you.Portugese fishermen recommend a fish head planted under a bush,this would be both fertilizer and gopher repellant.
The current roses sold in the large commercial companies are mostly infected w/ a rose virus called "mosaic virus".You get in the spring a verigated leaf yellow and green and a rose infected w/ it will not live more than ten years(approx).The old roses lived more than a hundred.They are one of the plants often alive on old properties.They are usually easy to root and tend to be more hardy on thier own roots than the grafted ones.The grafted ones live a stupendous first year and give you lot's of hope,then look worse every year.The own root old varieties usually(some are not very strong or disease resistant) look very spindly the first year then look better and better the years after that.Texas Rose Emporium,Vintage Gardens,Sebastopol,Calif. are a few places to buy.Canadian roses also don't have the mosiac virus,they culled all sick plants and tested remaining stock plants.
Good luck,I have a started twenty foot rambler started on my shed in full bloom right now. Katie |
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl
22941 Posts
Alee
Worland
Wy
USA
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nitere
True Blue Farmgirl
482 Posts
Amy
Hickory
NC
USA
482 Posts |
Posted - Apr 19 2009 : 11:46:41 AM
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Alee, I talked to my sister yesterday (she grows lots of roses) and she told me to put it no less than 18-24 inches from the house. We planted ours 24 inches so that when it is full grown, the leaves won't brush the against the brick.
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KD Earthwork
True Blue Farmgirl
210 Posts
Katie
Gualala
Calif.
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - Apr 23 2009 : 8:06:58 PM
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Hi Allee and Amy,
To me it would depend on the rose.They can get really big! Some, the eat your house varieties like Climbing Cecile Brunner or Rosa Banksia I'd carefully consider the Rambler varieties near your house.If it's a shrub what height? Is it a floribunda (usually not that tall,hybrid tea(medium),grandiflora(taller),or a climber(how big 20'?Or normal 10).I like seeing one growing then make the assessment.I'd plant at least two feet or more if you can spare.
Katie |
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl
1054 Posts
Anne
Portland
Or
USA
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Posted - Apr 24 2009 : 06:53:59 AM
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Here is an example of a rose that got bigger then expected. This is an ice berg and I think it is about 20' +. I am going to have to add a another trellis to help hold it up. Something to think about when planting a climber
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Anne in Portland, OR
"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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katmom
True Blue Farmgirl
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Grace
WACAL Gal
WashCalif.
USA
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Posted - Apr 24 2009 : 3:20:36 PM
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hmmm, sounds like a lot of you are (as am I) Rose rustlers! lol!
I have been know, back when I lived in So. Cal, to go rustling roses(cuttings) but, I always asked first. I did the same with Geraniums too! lol!
Once a "Rustler" always a Rustler...lol!
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redfish4alder
Farmgirl in Training
14 Posts
Sarah
Seattle
Washington
USA
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Posted - Apr 26 2009 : 11:34:45 AM
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Wow! thanks for all the great tips!
And Anne, that rose bush (though a little big) is gorgeous! I have two climbing varieties (stars and stripes is one i think?? and the the other is Jacob's Robe) I wonder if they will get that big?
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Tina Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl
6948 Posts
Tina
sunshine state
FL
USA
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abigailc1973
True Blue Farmgirl
85 Posts
abigail
orlando
fl
USA
85 Posts |
Posted - Apr 27 2009 : 04:31:41 AM
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Anne that rose is amazing! Katie-I understand what you're saying about those tough old roses! I have some hybrid teas which are beautiful but I LOVE my Old Blush,even though they're still babies. I bought some rooted cuttings from a lady last year and they do great with little fuss. They seem to almost change color throughout the year depending on the temp. I also got a couple no-named climbing cuttings that were found on an abandoned property that are going good as well. Those babies are out performing the hybrid climber I bought. I've been trying to find some Harrison's Yellow (the Pioneer Rose), love a rose with some history.
After finding out about the old heirloom types, I'm interested in trading out some of the hybrids- a couple of them seem very black spot prone but it could just be my climate. Does anyone have any remedies for roses when they do get blackspot. I've read a few place to make sure that you clean up any infected foilage because it's spread by splashing when it rains, to remove all infected leaves from the plant, make sure there's plenty of air circulation, sprinkle the perimeter with corn meal(not sure why?) and spray a homemade mix of a tbsp of baking soda, tbsp of dish soap (non anti bacterial), tbsp of oil to a gallon of water. Also, to be careful when spraying this-not to do it on a super hot sunny day because you can burn the leaves. I've also read to be sure that you sterilize your garden shears as well. If anyone has experience with these methods or knows of any others to try, it would be interesting and helpful. Also wondering if anyone has tried the Bayer complete 3 in 1 rose care. I much prefer organic methods but if it would help these few bushes out with the blackspot I'd like to give it a try. My son will be sad if I have to get rid of his Chicago Peace.
Tina- what part of Florida? I'm in the Orlando area. Maybe I can try my hand at rooting you some Old Blush and those climbers. I also have a white patio one that I've had success rooting- very hardy and prolific bloomer. |
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asnedecor
True Blue Farmgirl
1054 Posts
Anne
Portland
Or
USA
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Posted - Apr 27 2009 : 06:51:47 AM
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The rose is a iceberg rose and was purchased through Edmunds Roses - at the time DH's 1/2 brother (Phil Edmunds) was the owner of the rose farm and he recommended the rose. He told me it didn't take much care once it established itself and that it grew like a weed. Hard to think that the rose is only about 12 years old. Most people who see it think it is as old as the house (90+ years) because the lower canes are about 3" to 4" in diameter. Lucky I have a good trellis to hold it because it is heavy.
Anne in Portland, OR
"Weeds are flowers too, once you get to know them" Eyeore from Winnie the Pooh
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butterflykisses
Farmgirl at Heart
8 Posts
Sherri
Clermont
Fl
USA
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Posted - May 04 2009 : 06:13:30 AM
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I have about 25 roese bushes they are heirloom, grafted and some that were the $6.00 bushes from home depot. I tried the baking soda, dish detergent and oil I did not care for it. It left my plants nasty and it burned up the leaves. Maybe its the weather here in Florida. I just recently moved from Orlando to Clermont and its been in the 90's here! Great weather for growing most stuff though.
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