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kissmekate
True Blue Farmgirl

890 Posts

Kate
Delano Minnesota
890 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  5:43:12 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by harmonyfarm

How bout we box up all the kid's stuff made in China and send it back to them? I wonder what their kids play with and wear?
Debbie

"If you can't find the time to do it right...how will you find the time to do it over"


Debbie,
Their children probably wear the same stuff our kids wear, considering everything (it seems) is made over there.



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5 acre Farmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

1007 Posts

~~~*Terri*~~~
WA.
USA
1007 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  6:26:08 PM  Show Profile
Shall we all just go together and purchase thousands of acres, and all move there, each still having his own acre or more?
They can't touch us if we only trade/barter with each other can they?Laws...argh!!! I know we have to have some, but, isn't this kind of????????

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deeredawn
True Blue Farmgirl

2306 Posts

Dawn
Cordova TN
USA
2306 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  6:31:14 PM  Show Profile
This is very real. It was on our 6pm news channel tonight. Its awful. The law goes into effect Feb 10. I think we should set up a free store. Or organize a free swap in your community. And Tracy (shepardgirl) you are exactly right. We have forgotten how to be self relient. Its time ladies to batten down the hatches and take care of you and yours. I'm learning how to sew so that I can make my own tops for summertime, and hopefully I will add on crocheting to that so i can stay warm in winter. I'm very worried where this is going because so many do not know about this. What a devastation it's going to be to a LOT of families.....

Dawn #279
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mikesgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

3659 Posts

Sherri
Elma WA
USA
3659 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  6:39:41 PM  Show Profile
Sounds like it'll put me out of business - unless I label all my children's clothing "Not intended for use by children." Wonder if that would work.......... I wrote my congressman and voted on the site suggested earlier on here. I don't know what else I can do. Hopefully our new president with look at this with a level head and see that although the intention is good, the way it's written is ridiculous.

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Room To Grow
True Blue Farmgirl

974 Posts

Deborah
Kingston Georgia
USA
974 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  8:08:16 PM  Show Profile
I am sure this is to try to make us buy more retail. But it will be the same as when gas went to 5.00 a gal. They had to lower it back down because we stopped driving so much. But I saw something on the yahoo. It was an Austin Texas station. A childrens consigenment store said they were going to close and fire all the people that worked ther (12)... And the owner said they tried to call the someone at the state capitol and got no where...and the station news guy said they tried and got nowhere also....So I guess you might have to ask your local GoodWill and see what they say
Deborah


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StitchinWitch
True Blue Farmgirl

2342 Posts

Judith
Galt CA
USA
2342 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:07:01 PM  Show Profile
I think it would be o.k. to use FreeCycle; after all that is pretty much an agreement between two parties and there is no money involved.

This law sounds like one more thing that will put Americans out of business so more shoddy and/or questionable quality stuff will be made in China. Like it isn't already hard enought to find something that isn't made there!

Judith

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Lizabeth
True Blue Farmgirl

560 Posts


Washington
560 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:15:59 PM  Show Profile
Here is what I wrote on Oprah's story suggestion web page:

I am extremely concerned about the upcoming "due date", February 10th, for the law regarding testing for lead in children's products. I
am a work at home mom and began my own custom children's clothing business three years ago. I cannot afford to test each garment I make. In my network of other business women we are all facing the death of our dreams to create life giving products and to succeed as entrepreneurs.
I do not create children's clothing to simply make money. I create custom clothing to beautify children's lives. My favorite dresses to sew are from vintage embroidery and lace fabrics. Under the law that will take effect in just a few weeks I can no longer purchase second-hand fabrics, embroideries, or lace. I cannot make children's clothing to sell.
This situation is devasting to many many families.
Please, Miss Oprah, review the details of the lead testing law and bring the gravity and impact of the law to our congress' and our new president's attention.
Thank you!
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5 acre Farmgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

1007 Posts

~~~*Terri*~~~
WA.
USA
1007 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:31:51 PM  Show Profile
OK, my Dh asked ....who is going to enforce it.....
Just wondering?????????????

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Julia
True Blue Farmgirl

1949 Posts

Julia
Shelton WA
USA
1949 Posts

Posted - Jan 07 2009 :  9:57:05 PM  Show Profile
Just voted! My giddy aunt! is there not already to much government in our lives... "for the people, by the people..."

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ThePixiesPlayhouse
True Blue Farmgirl

127 Posts

Terri
Biggs CA
127 Posts

Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  2:32:35 PM  Show Profile
Update to the law

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09086.html

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catscharm74
True Blue Farmgirl

4687 Posts

Heather
Texas
USA
4687 Posts

Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  3:10:57 PM  Show Profile  Send catscharm74 a Yahoo! Message
And then what are we going to do when they start charging us an arm and a leg to first, buy new things and secondly, to dispose of them??? It is scary...had to chime in...off to get Charlie now!!!

Heather

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shepherdgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

1008 Posts

Tracy
California
USA
1008 Posts

Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  4:34:28 PM  Show Profile
Wait, I'm a bit confused!
Ok, now I'm not. I read the consumer safety report AGAIN.

Paragraphs #3 & #4 state that thrift and second hand stores are NOT required to do testing--- but RE-sellers -- I'm assuming places like Ross, Big Lots, Grocery Outlet etc... and all those places that buy unsold and/or damaged goods, and "seconds" for resale -- ARE required to test the products before they can sell them. Unless I really AM confused? Did anyone ELSE read the info on Terri's link like that? Or am I missing it all together?

If that's so, then that means that NEW goods are the target here-- not "gently loved" goods. That's good. (Lol!) I can deal with that. The people who can AFFORD to buy all new don't really care ANYWAY. They'll keep buying no matter what!! (I mean, if they don't have a problem paying a $150 for a pair of JEANS....!!!) But, we'll know for CERTAIN if all the kid stuff starts disappearing off the second hand store shelves-- and never gets replaced! Lets hope I read that right!

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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl

22941 Posts

Alee
Worland Wy
USA
22941 Posts

Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  5:03:20 PM  Show Profile  Send Alee a Yahoo! Message
The original article did state that it was a huge possibility that thrift stores wouldn't be able to sell used clothes or toys for children anymore. Luckily the information has been clarified as of today and thrift stores look like they will be able to continue business as usual.

Alee
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Room To Grow
True Blue Farmgirl

974 Posts

Deborah
Kingston Georgia
USA
974 Posts

Posted - Jan 08 2009 :  8:24:41 PM  Show Profile
Just found this out on another site I am onDated January 8th, 2009-
3rd paragrah down, 2nd sentence.

Sellers of used children’s products, such as thrift stores and consignment stores, are not required to certify that those products meet the new lead limits, phthalates standard or new toy standards.
The new safety law does not require resellers to test children’s products in inventory for compliance with the lead limit before they are sold.




http://www.cpsc. gov/cpscpub/ prerel/prhtml09/ 09086.html






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soapmommy60543
True Blue Farmgirl

2197 Posts

Ann
Oswego IL
USA
2197 Posts

Posted - Jan 09 2009 :  05:30:57 AM  Show Profile
The CPSC issued a statement--just today--that says resellers are not required to test their products. However, if they sell something that is later found to exceed the acceptable limits for lead or phthalates, they could face civil or criminal penalties. So, they are still accountable, even if they don't have to test. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09086.html

Ann in Oswego
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Times may be tough, but farmgirls are tougher!

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farmmommy
True Blue Farmgirl

500 Posts

Kelley
Texas
USA
500 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  12:01:50 PM  Show Profile
Just my few thoughts here.........Where are the laws for the actual manufactures of these items? Wouldn't you think it makes more sense to "stop the madness" there....I mean, seriously we did just fine back in the day when toys and clothes were made without all this man-made "crap" in them!!
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mikesgirl
True Blue Farmgirl

3659 Posts

Sherri
Elma WA
USA
3659 Posts

Posted - Jan 12 2009 :  12:30:40 PM  Show Profile
If you use the blanket term "manufactures" of the items - you're back to where some of us who are in the business of hand crafting items one at a time are. The law, as I understand it, is across the board for "manufacturers" of children's items. That means the same law applies to me as does to Osh Kosh, for example. I create one of a kind items and I would have to test each and every individual item under this law, at a cost of $100-$300 an item. It would make more sense, if something needs to be tested, that the fabric and other materials be tested before they are sold to those of us who purchase them. That way the cost could be spread way out and not concentrated on individual items. The big companies, of course, mannufactures 100s of thousands of the same article - cost per testing is a fraction of a cent each. If I test each individual item the entire cost of the test rests on that ONE item - hence a jacket I sell for $39 could conceivably cost me up to $300 to test for lead. Why not just test the fabric? Please tell me if I'm misinterpreting the law, but this is how I read it....

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