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Across the Fence:  Is anyone concerned about the whole bank crisis?  |
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acairnsmom
True Blue Farmgirl
1319 Posts
audrey
cheyenne
wy
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 Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:08:46 PM
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I'm not so much worried about the banks but the whole of America's economic systems. It all seems to me to be a house of cards since we went off of any kind of monetary standard. Our money is basically worth only what we imagine it to be worth. And if you recall, that was one of the speculated reasons behind the terrorists hitting the World Trade Centers, is to bring our entire economy into collapse. Then there was speculation that China was also trying to destroy us by making our economy falter. WAYYYYYY to scary for me to think on for very long. And yes, I believe that's why I'm interested in self sufficiency. I'm not sure how long my government will be able to hold things together so I need to start preparing. The up side is that if America's economy goes down so does a lot of the rest of the world since we are all interrelated now. If that happens I think I'll hitch-hike west and move in with Aunt Jenny! 
Audrey
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fionalovesshrek
True Blue Farmgirl
186 Posts
Paige
kinston
North Carolina
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 2:32:45 PM
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We got a letter from our bank (Wachovia) saying that we would only be allowed 7000.00 dollars withdraw a day. So the idea that you'd get your money "up to 100,000" is quite false. We read also where a man was denied his 15000.00 because "we simply do not have that cash at the bank sir".
Buy rice, build a green house, stock up on dry milk and dried beans and peanut butter, and get ready. It's about to get really dagum bad. The dollar is worth diddly, prices will go up up up and we'll afford less less less. I think in a twisted way it's going to be good for America. IMO we've been getting to big for our britches and this will knock a few teeth out, and make us get some muscles.
That's my 2$(use to be 2c, see how the dollar is worthless?)
P~
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La Patite Ferme
True Blue Farmgirl
623 Posts
Jenn
CA
USA
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 3:30:15 PM
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I spoke with my Financial Planner last week and he told me "sit tight" while everyone jockies around for the next couple of months. I thought of taking money out, but he advised not to because that affects the banks solvency. I do have my cash on hand for emergencies which I'll increase as I get paid, but for now I'm just gonna hang in and watch what happens. I'm hoping my regional bank doesn't get bought out, cause I like them.
I too am hoping good things come from this and people start to realize that taking care of themselves and their families is much more important than having it all - on credit.
I do get angry about the bail out though. I've worked very hard keeping up my mortgage, paying off my bills and being a good steward of my money and financial responsibilities and noone has offered people like me anything. Sour grapes I guess
BTW - you can see how your bank rates at rateyourbank.com |
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laluna
True Blue Farmgirl
295 Posts
New York
USA
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Posted - Sep 22 2008 : 4:20:44 PM
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Originally posted by La Patite Ferme
I spoke with my Financial Planner last week and he told me "sit tight" while everyone jockies around for the next couple of months. I thought of taking money out, but he advised not to because that affects the banks solvency. I do have my cash on hand for emergencies which I'll increase as I get paid, but for now I'm just gonna hang in and watch what happens. I'm hoping my regional bank doesn't get bought out, cause I like them.
I too am hoping good things come from this and people start to realize that taking care of themselves and their families is much more important than having it all - on credit.
I do get angry about the bail out though. I've worked very hard keeping up my mortgage, paying off my bills and being a good steward of my money and financial responsibilities and noone has offered people like me anything. Sour grapes I guess
BTW - you can see how your bank rates at rateyourbank.com
Jen, I am in complete agreement with and am doing everything pretty much as you've said as well. Especially the bail-out piece of it.  Of course, many economists saw this coming, and as far as I'm concerned, this is precisely why de-regulation was a huge mistake (apparently the S&L fiasco of the 80's taught some people nothing). *sigh*
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." -- Frank Lloyd Wright |
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Montrose Girl
Farmgirl Legend/Schoolmarm
1360 Posts
Laurie
Montrose
CO
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 07:01:39 AM
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Does any one remember "It's a Wondeful Life" That was one of the problems in the film at that time, folks wanted all their money back then. Definietly have some on hand, several hundred if you can pull it, but in the long run sustainablility as is discussed through out these pages is key, food stock, making your own soaps, etc.
Best Growing |
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homemom
True Blue Farmgirl
1593 Posts
Ruth
Warwick
RI
USA
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 08:38:26 AM
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What I don't like is that all the "big guys" in these banks and firms are getting million dollar bonuses every year. My husband works for a bank and it is ridiculous what the big guy in his bank would get as a yearly bonus~last year 6 million dollars and then my husband is told he can't order more pens for his department because they need to keep the budget down. Ridiculous!!
If we bail them out then noone should be getting these bonuses. What about accountability. When will they pay for the huge mistakes they have made? I think alot of this had to do with greed.
Just my two cents.
Ruth
Living the farm life in my heart.
http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/Ruth
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shepherdgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
1008 Posts
Tracy
California
USA
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 08:56:54 AM
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Paige-- I had to laugh at your closing comments. Too funny, but, sadly, also too TRUE!!! We Amercians are just so SPOILED!!! (Some really SHOW IT!!!)
I have been watching the "trends" for a long time and when that whole "housing boom" began, my husband was ALL FOR jumping on the wagon. I had this sense of impending DOOM over the whole thing (God was tapping me on the shoulder saying "uh-hu! DON'T do it!!!). Hubby and I had quite a few FIGHTS over the whole situation, but in the end, he finally agreed with me. I think he's glad that he finally listened! Now he's seeing the affects with his own two eyes (and felt it in his own pocket!!).
His sister bought a house during that time-- one that needed more restoration than she and her husband ever imagined (he's a contractor and they did all the work themselves, but there's so much more to DO!). They also already HAD a mortgage on another house (WHY BUY ANOTHER ONE WHEN YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR THE FIRST? I just don't get that.... ???????). Well, when the "bubble" EPLODED, they were stuck between a rock and a hard place. WE had to give them $1500 to hlep them out (my mother-in-law contributed quite a bit too!) so they wouldn't lose their home that they'd been paying on for several years now. The thing is-- they aren't LIVING in EITHER of them! The one they were aleady buying is being rented out (they couldn't sell it after two years on the market) and the other house is basically stalled in the restoration process. They have been living with my Mother-in-law for the past 6+ months or so. (HUH??????) Oh well. I just look at their situation and think-- "Man, WE sure dodged a bullet!"
Now if I could just convince my Husband to SAVE money instead of spend it like he won't be here tomorrow!! OH the FRUSTRATION!!!!! But, I'm prepared! We've got critters on the farm that can feed us in more ways than one (plenty of sheep and miniature Dairy goats, and horses for transportaion! LOL!), and I've been saving heirloom and op seeds for years. Also, we have chickens and plenty of storage for other foods. No worries here mates!
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. ~~ George Carlin |
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miss wilma
True Blue Farmgirl
3410 Posts
Wilma
Knob Lick
Ky
USA
3410 Posts |
Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 09:34:24 AM
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Ruth thats how I see it to, Why should we tax payers have to pay for the big dogs, We are trying to keep a close watch and when we dont feel comfortable we will pull ours out. That might not be so good for the banking buiness but if anyone spends my money I had rather it was me. I am definately against the bailout. We have been thru some tight times to and no one bailed us out. I think everyone that dipped their hands in the pot should have to spend one year working on a farm. Maybe they would learn where money comes from
Farm Girl #96
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junkjunkie
True Blue Farmgirl
1306 Posts
Judy
Lawrenceville
NJ
USA
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Posted - Sep 23 2008 : 4:26:57 PM
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The bailout should be only under very strict reforms and regulations regarding the CEOs and their obscene bonuses and other Wall Street fatcats that created this whole mess with their greed. I think that's a huge part of this downward economy, but also the mentality of the "American dream" and keeping up with the Joneses that over extended credit a lot of people just couldn't handle. The past couple of generations (starting with the boomers) has become so spoiled and alway felt they were "entitled". Maybe a good kick in the arse is what everyone needs....but hopefully not in such a drastic way (like a 2nd depression). I don't want to get political, but I will briefly. It doesn't matter which party...but lobbyists and special interest groups from big corporations have bought so many politicians that they've looked the other way for a very long time... not to go against their contributors. I have a really hard time believing anyone anymore, including the two candidates running for president. The whole thing is very complicated and everyone from the top to the average joe contributed (me included....gotta get real!). As far as doing anything with my bank, I'm sitting tight...but one stock fund I had I changed to an annuity. I need to keep my money stable as I'm not that young and have 20 to 30 years to recoup.
"To have life in focus, we must have death in our field of vision." Benedictine monk John Main |
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chickabella
True Blue Farmgirl
177 Posts
D. A.
Austin... ish,
Texas
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Posted - Sep 24 2008 : 03:18:25 AM
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Originally posted by shepherdgirl
We've got critters on the farm that can feed us in more ways than one (plenty of sheep and miniature Dairy goats, and horses for transportaion! LOL!), and I've been saving heirloom and op seeds for years. Also, we have chickens and plenty of storage for other foods
Reminds me of a survivalist joke, along the lines of "you might be a redneck if"...
You might be a survivalist if you have emergency rations for your pets, and see your pets as emergency rations.
On a more serious note, I'm worried about all that's going on as well. I'm hoping for the best (economy stabilises, etc.), but am preparing for the worst. If all else fails, I'll have a more self-sufficient lifestyle that is also easier on the planet. Can't go wrong with that!
Farm blog: http://farmnatters.blogspot.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/dasparky
Heart of Texas Farmgirls Chapter; Farmgirl Sisterhood Member #275
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Bellepepper
True Blue Farmgirl
1207 Posts
Belle
Coffeyville
KS
USA
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Posted - Sep 24 2008 : 11:41:21 AM
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| I am all for the government NOT passing the bailout bill. I know the whole economy will crash. Maybe that is what we need. Start over. How many times have we personally, had to do that? We would all be wealthy if someone came along and fixed all our $ mistakes. No, we dug in and fixed it ourselvs. The country and big business can do it too. I heard this a.m. that "they" are wanting to bail out credit card co and bad student loans in this same bill! We may all wish we had planted a bigger garden. |
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palmettogirl
True Blue Farmgirl
571 Posts
sue
camden
south carolina
USA
571 Posts |
Posted - Sep 24 2008 : 12:16:57 PM
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| we also watch fox news and several of the financial guys say that the government should stay out of this mess......let the people who are going to fall---well, fall! the sooner they do, the sooner things will start to fix themselves up again. frankly, i'm so sick of feeling like i'm being taxed to death to support so many people who really don't care and aren't concerned enough to want to take care of themselves. i know there are certain instances, like people who are sick or disabled.....but for the many who are just too plain lazy and think, what the heck, it's no sweat off my back if i don't pay my obligations......that's what makes me mad. |
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pasofino
True Blue Farmgirl
50 Posts
Claudia
Stony Creek
New York
USA
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Posted - Sep 24 2008 : 4:47:44 PM
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Interesting is an understatement !!!!!....I live in the Adirondacks....so many people cant pay there taxes or there LAST years fuel bill...contrary wife said it..... Its very scary....I now have my own hens...garden...rabbits.... and horses for transportation....Wake up...
Happy Trails,Claudia
Sisterhood #328
www.wolfpondstables.com
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fionalovesshrek
True Blue Farmgirl
186 Posts
Paige
kinston
North Carolina
USA
186 Posts |
Posted - Sep 25 2008 : 8:13:23 PM
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As of tonight, the death knell has rung for WAMU, Washington Mutual is no longer.
Your money is still good as it's deposits were sold to a live bank, but wamu is kaput. Oh, and did you hear the FDIC needs money to keep it afloat. Isn't that just the worst!
P~
www.fionaswampington.blogspot.com
http://homespunhensfarmgirlchapter.blogspot.com/
Man, despite his artistic pretensions, his sophistication, and his many accomplishments, owes his existence to a six inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains. |
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palmettogirl
True Blue Farmgirl
571 Posts
sue
camden
south carolina
USA
571 Posts |
Posted - Sep 26 2008 : 4:02:53 PM
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| wakovia looks like it'll be next to bite the dust. i started moving money out of there yesterday, hope to get more out on monday. i'm concerned because i have to pay the taxes on my house in november and don't want to take a chance that i'd have to wait to get any money if they have to reorganize or anything. i don't feel like we are paranoid or panicking, but i'm just trying to think ahead to avoid something stupid happening. good luck to everyone.....but i know that farmgirls are smart and think ahead!! |
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sewgirlie
True Blue Farmgirl
1894 Posts
Sheryl-lyn
Calverton
NY
USA
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Posted - Sep 26 2008 : 5:33:48 PM
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I agree with you guys that sometimes things just have to hit bottom before they can get better. You know what? When I wanted to buy a house, we SAVED money for two years and spent not one dime without having first put it in the bugdet. No extra food, no extra gas, NOTHING. My dad said to get only the amount of mortgage that we could pay with one salary because you never know what could happen. Thank God we listening because within one year, my first husband was diagnosed with cancer and unable to work for sometimes months at a time!!
I am tired of paying for people who do not put limits on themselves, yet expect others to pick up their pieces. Time to put the money in the mattress!!
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lisamarie508
True Blue Farmgirl
2648 Posts
Lisa
Idaho City
ID
USA
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Posted - Sep 26 2008 : 8:57:42 PM
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Sheryl-lyn that is the exact same mentality we had when buying a house. It took us 3 years to save for this house and we figured that we could still pay the mortgage if we only had MY salary as mine was the lesser of the two and dh's job was more hazardous and more likely he could get hurt. That very thing has happened more than once and dh is in the middle of another major injury now. I'm so glad that we were smart enough to do that or we could have lost our home a long time ago.
Farmgirl Sister #35
"If you can not do great things, do small things in a great way." Napoleon Hill (1883-1970)
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herbquilter
True Blue Farmgirl
891 Posts
Kristine
Bonney Lake
Wa
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 3:16:26 PM
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The Food Preservation class was awesome. Had a good turnout.
Oct 11 & 18th I'll be teaching Frugal Feasting at 2 local library's. I'll post the handouts on my blog after the class.
Alee, Thanks for asking!
Blessings,
Kristine ~ Mother of Many, MRET & Wellness Coach
http://herbalmommasda.blogspot.com/
Farmgirl Sister #97
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl
22941 Posts
Alee
Worland
Wy
USA
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herbquilter
True Blue Farmgirl
891 Posts
Kristine
Bonney Lake
Wa
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 3:19:48 PM
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Here's what Thomas Jefferson said on these topics:
"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against any form
of tyranny over the minds and lives of men. To preserve our
independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.
We must take our choice between economy and liberty, or profusion and
servitude. If we run into such debts, we must be taxed in our meat and
drink, in our necessities and in our
comforts, in our labors and in our amusements. If we can prevent the
government from wasting the labor of the people under the pretense of
caring for them, they [the people] will be happy."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Very interesting and true! Oh, boy, we may be in for a ride.
At least our lives won't be boring.... :)
Blessings,
Kristine ~ Mother of Many, MRET & Wellness Coach
http://herbalmommasda.blogspot.com/
Farmgirl Sister #97
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Betty J.
True Blue Farmgirl
1403 Posts
Betty
Pasco
WA
USA
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Posted - Sep 28 2008 : 3:36:11 PM
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I do some of my banking at a local savings & loan. They do not sell the mortgages like those huge banks have been doing. The mortgage I have on my house was sold five times before GMAC bought it 10 years ago. I certainly hope they are on solid footing. I would like to pay my house off and save the payments for future use--remodeling.
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miss wilma
True Blue Farmgirl
3410 Posts
Wilma
Knob Lick
Ky
USA
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palmettogirl
True Blue Farmgirl
571 Posts
sue
camden
south carolina
USA
571 Posts |
Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 05:58:57 AM
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| i can't agree with you more, miss wilma. if, instead of jefferson, madison, washington, we had the current clowns in Washington, DC meeting in that bar in Philadelphia back in 1776,...well, we'd be singing "hail to the queen"!! i wish they would realize that they should think of the country as a whole instead of their own personal pocketbooks. |
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miss wilma
True Blue Farmgirl
3410 Posts
Wilma
Knob Lick
Ky
USA
3410 Posts |
Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 07:48:23 AM
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I guess Sue we are just going to have to do what we can to survive. You know I look at it this way as long as we try to do whats right there will be away made for us,When I hear and see all of the deceit and crooked dealings it just makes me more determined to try to keep what little I have close to me, seems like the greedy can never get enough . But look at it this way they may do wrong now but sometime there will be a reckoning in their lives and they will have to pay
Farm Girl #96
http://www.picturetrail.com/misswilmasplace
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herbquilter
True Blue Farmgirl
891 Posts
Kristine
Bonney Lake
Wa
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - Sep 29 2008 : 09:11:45 AM
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The wonderful thing about this country, it was formed for freedom and more than just survivial, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
May we have FARMGIRL JOY in our lives everyday, at our own farms and in our family's...as the world goes on with it's drama.
Blessings,
Kristine ~ Mother of Many, MRET & Wellness Coach
http://herbalmommasda.blogspot.com/
Farmgirl Sister #97
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Across the Fence: Is anyone concerned about the whole bank crisis? |
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Is anyone concerned about the whole bank crisis?
