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nampafarmgirl
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Kim
Nampa ID
USA
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Posted - Jul 21 2008 :  07:02:57 AM  Show Profile
Most of you probably make your own compost, but sometimes may have to buy matter. I recently found out that there is human waste, recycled of course, in some bags you may buy at the store. I have found some bags that say 'contains no waste matter' but you do have to look hard. I have found the bags at Home Depot.

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Farmgirl in Training

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jessica
glen rock pa
USA
31 Posts

Posted - Jun 13 2009 :  8:43:19 PM  Show Profile
wow that is really disgusting but good to know! I would hate to get my hands in that!

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Tapestry
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Cheryl
Wisconsin
USA
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Posted - Jun 14 2009 :  12:06:51 AM  Show Profile  Send Tapestry a Yahoo! Message
They actually list human waste as an ingredient?? Gross!

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MuslinBunnies
True Blue Farmgirl

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Tina
Franklin NH
USA
113 Posts

Posted - Jun 15 2009 :  12:43:53 PM  Show Profile
My first response to this was also "Gross!"

Then I got to thinking. There are an estimated 306 million people living in the USA. The world population is nearing 7 billion people. That is a lot of waste material to have to put somewhere.

We have no problem composting cow manure, horse manure, pig, goat, or llama manure. Almost any barnyard animal gets it's wastes put in a compost heap to be reused for the nutrients that they contain. I know I wouldn't stick my hands into a pile of fresh cow dung and start gardening with it!

Let's face it, we are dumping dirt created from poop on our gardens every year. And we are not worried about any pathogens that may be spread that way. That's because we know that any pathogens are killed by the heat created in the middle of the compost pile in the process of making the dirt.

Human wastes are full of unused nutrients. The human body is not good at breaking down vegetable matter. Many of those nutrients pass straight through our digestive systems. At the moment, most communities flush those wastes into waste water management systems that use a lot of water and chemicals to treat them. Many of the nutrients get flushed into the waterways and oceans causing nutrient overloads and pollution. Think about it. If there was a way to harvest all of the waste matter and recycle it, improving the soil instead of poisoning our water with it, wouldn't that be a better solution?

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Tapestry
True Blue Farmgirl

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Cheryl
Wisconsin
USA
1223 Posts

Posted - Jun 16 2009 :  12:17:28 AM  Show Profile  Send Tapestry a Yahoo! Message
Actually Tina, you're probably right. In all honesty human manure probably isn't any different from any other kind of manure except that psychologically for us it is distasteful. I wonder sometimes if all pathogens are actually killed during composting. If so, why do we still hear of numerous cases of ecoli contamination in our produce? Ecoli bacteria is found in fecal matter. I still have concerns even with cow manure. So far my compost pile is mainly made up of leaves and organic matter. I think I might keep it that way. Somehow it feels safer to me.

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laurzgot
True Blue Farmgirl

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Laurie
Alvin Texas
USA
1672 Posts

Posted - Jun 16 2009 :  12:47:01 PM  Show Profile
Hey, Tina and Cheryl---- I agree with both of you gals. My compost is basically leaves and grass clippings and other organic material. Ecoli is spooky to think about but natural is good. I think we all need to try and do our part for a greener planet. I think it was on the discovery channel awhile back on how some company used unwanted old food and such to make compost matter. Just a few thoughts.
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Betty J.
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Betty
Pasco WA
USA
1403 Posts

Posted - Jun 16 2009 :  1:03:44 PM  Show Profile
My sentiments: "GROSS"

We can usually control what the animals eat, but what about stuff humans dine on? I think I'll stick with the animals--besides if I know where it comes from and it's sterilized, that's a bit different. Even though I use steer manure, I would not like to stick my uncovered hands into a bag of manure.

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brightmeadow
True Blue Farmgirl

2045 Posts

Brenda
Lucas Ohio
USA
2045 Posts

Posted - Jun 16 2009 :  4:42:28 PM  Show Profile
Check out what the Alabama Extension service has to say about using "Class A" septic sludge...

http://www.aces.edu/crd/publications/ANR-721.html

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TurkeyGirl
Farmgirl in Training

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Carrie
Wellington OH
USA
12 Posts

Posted - Jun 23 2009 :  7:28:26 PM  Show Profile
This is my first time posting, but I just couldn't pass this topic up! Think about all the human waste that is 'treated' and then released into the same water where we source our drinking water. Somehow I think a country home's well-functioning septic system where some bacteria and microbes help break down the waste is better than urban sewer systems that outlet into waterways around here.

A long time ago, my grandfather had a load of sludge from a treatment plant that he plowed under in a field waaay back on his farm. He said it was OK, except that certain items (ahem, think birth control) didn't break down too quick and resurfaced. I don't think he ever did that more than once! I have seen ads for composting toilets too. But I think I'm going to read those bags more closely...!
Carrie
Northcoast of Ohio

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peapicker
True Blue Farmgirl

716 Posts


texas
USA
716 Posts

Posted - Jun 23 2009 :  8:11:42 PM  Show Profile
All I can say is I am going to work on my compost pile double time. No wonder we all have so many health problems. I know the experts say we are cleaner and safer now more than ever but I'm sure if I believe that most of the time.
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