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lamarguerite farm
True Blue Farmgirl

649 Posts

missy
Battle Ground Wa
USA
649 Posts

Posted - Sep 29 2005 :  9:17:10 PM  Show Profile
Blue Egg Babe- I don't know of any Irish descent either. I am Mostly German, Welsh and a little Dutch. I have ancestors that were Pennsylvania dutch and supposedly there is a town called Landis, Pennsylvania that is named after them. Anyway, you described the feelings much better than I did. I had to chuckle at your reference to strong feelings the day after visiting the pubs. ha ha It would be interesting to visit (Ireland, not the pubs) ha ha, and see what kinds of feelings it would bring about. Thanks for shariing your story!!

Blessings,

Missy

If you have a dream, even if you don't feel qualified to accomplish it, just try your hardest.-Maggie Jensen
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jenny louise
True Blue Farmgirl

166 Posts

jennifer
cass city MI
USA
166 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2005 :  02:24:08 AM  Show Profile
What a wonderful thread! As I read all of the accounts of childrens' wisdom, I am reminded of my daughter, when she was about two. We had a really old clunker of a car and it wouldn't start one night; we were in the parking lot of a tore, about 5 miles from home and it was raining and cold, and my DH just laid his head on his arms as he was gripping the steering wheel and felt exhausted at the prospect of us slogging home in the cold wet weather. We thought that jessie was asleep in the back, when two little hands touched us, one on his shoulder, one on mine, and she lisped,"All you have to do is believe", then she promptly stuck her thumb in her mouth and laid back against the seat. Well, DH looked at me and I looked back at him, and he took a deep breath and tried to start the car again. Of course, it started and we both looked back at jessie, who smiled around her thumb, and she has continued to amaze us through the years with her center of calm.
I have had alot of spiritual events and i love it. I truely believe in reincarnation, the earth around us teaches that. I never feel alone, as there is always someone to talk with that is in spirit. You all have great stories and i have really enjoyed reading them, thanks! Jenny Louise
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ByHzGrace
True Blue Farmgirl

348 Posts



348 Posts

Posted - Sep 30 2005 :  05:00:44 AM  Show Profile
The Cathars believed in reincarnation, for those who had not achieved perfection. Yet despite the massacre of thousands of non-perfecti in the Albigensian crusades, none seem to have come back and revived Catharism. Unless there's a very long waiting list to come back.



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dg7954
True Blue Farmgirl

129 Posts

Diane
Doylestown pa
USA
129 Posts

Posted - Oct 02 2005 :  06:34:33 AM  Show Profile
I have been told by more than one pschic, that I was killed in my immediately last life in the holocaust. The first time I heard this information, I remembered how, when I was around ten, I read every book I could find about the holocaust. I would always cry uncontrollably when I read them). I told my mother I felt like I was there, and she said, "It makes sense, the timing would be right." I later began to have dreams of how I was killed. I was a male, around 22yrs, with curly brown hair. I wore a tweed jacket and spectacles. I was shot in a field before people were taken to the camps. Later, I was told that I was the brother of one of my close friend's daughter (in this life). I had never met this girl as she lives in Santa Fe, NM. When I traveled to see my friend, I met Alaina for the first time, and we bonded immediately. I actually started to act like her big brother. It was wierd. My daughter in this life, was my mother in the last one. She endured my sister and I being killed, and then was taken to the camps and later gassed there. When my daughter was very little, I remember saying to to her that "I had that house dream again." She asked me about the dream, and I described to her a house I have seen in my dreams numerous times. I described the upstairs, one room leading to another, with old furniture covered with sheets, fixtures, etc. I described the garden outside. It was Japanese in style, with a bell by the door. The house was stone with black shutters. I knew what the ground in the back looked like. There was a man and old woman that lived in the house. In different dreams, his health was declining, and he ended up in the living room in a hospital bed. The woman took care of him. In another dream he had crossed over, and the bed was vacant but still in the livingroom. While I was describing all this to my daughter, she told me she had had dreams about the house as well. She could describe the kitchen (I never saw it in my dreams, but once she spoke about it I could fill in details). We agreed on many descriptions of the house. My daughter, however, could not see the man I described. I spoke to a pschic about this dream, and she told me it was the house we lived in in the last life, and it was still standing! She said it was in Europe, but could not say exactly where. It was a house that was taken over by the Nazis. My daughter in the last life lost everything before she was killed. She was the last survivor of our family, and had endured the most suffering. I believe that, in this life, because she came back as my daughter (first time for this, she has always been my mother in many lives), I am meant to take care of her, and make her life as wonderful as possible. I have always known this on some level. I was also told by several psychics that I am a master soul (meaning my soul is extremely old), but that my daughter is the oldest soul any of them have ever encountered. She is very unique in many ways, but her strength is what is always spoken about. I believe this to be true. She is the strongest person I have ever met. When she was born a preemie (1 lb, 14 oz), she was breathing room air and did not require oxygen. She was in the hospital the first two months of her life. When she was inside me, as I was being monitored every hour (I was hospitalized for a month before she was born) she was always in the same place, with a strong steady heart beat. When I saw her, I just said to myself, "Oh, there you are. How wonderful you are back." My daughter and I have always been extremely close. We can read each other's thoughts, and never went through the teenage trama of "I hate you, you don't understand me." She is 19 now, and we still have a wonderful relationship, and I know we always will. It is my turn to watch over her. My turn to make her life beautiful. She deserves it after her last life. She has paid her dues.
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ByHzGrace
True Blue Farmgirl

348 Posts



348 Posts

Posted - Oct 02 2005 :  6:49:49 PM  Show Profile
I've learned in some Native Am.traditions, people do return to the earth.(not as an *active* participant as we might understand it).Like as a *rock* in a sacred valley. The *active* rock never leaves.. never re-reincarnates... stays in that valley forever (in one form or another)... or until someone takes it home in a pocket and away from its spiritual point... which is not a good thing in that tradition, obviously.
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dg7954
True Blue Farmgirl

129 Posts

Diane
Doylestown pa
USA
129 Posts

Posted - Oct 03 2005 :  07:07:26 AM  Show Profile
Ellen, this is an interesting item as well. I believe that it is the soul energy of the entity that remains in the rock, not all of the soul, just some if it's energy. It is the premise for Indian burial grounds. I have read that some of the energy of the soul is retained in the molecules that make up the bones. This energy collectively can open up vortexes to other dimensions. That is why the burial grounds are so valuable and so sacred. The Native Americans, through meditation and halucinagenic drugs (paoti) can open dimensions for information and time travel. Cool, huh?

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jenny louise
True Blue Farmgirl

166 Posts

jennifer
cass city MI
USA
166 Posts

Posted - Oct 03 2005 :  7:03:39 PM  Show Profile
Thanks for sharing, Diane. Jenny Louise
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Judes
True Blue Farmgirl

156 Posts

Jude
OH
USA
156 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2005 :  06:35:49 AM  Show Profile  Send Judes a Yahoo! Message
My mom has always been afraid of my "powers", as she calls them. But nothing scary here...it's just about being in tune with yourself. I think spending alot of time alone as a child helped me to pay attention and notice things around me more deeply than usual. I'm really thankful for that, because I love that mystical part of the world. The knowing that there is a deeper connection beyond what we can see and understand. I've had so many experiences throughout my life...which as a child I was never afraid of...because at 4 you aren't alarmed to see a ghost, and aren't aware that you are speaking of places you've never been. In adolescence, it scared me...because that is when you begin to question things. I felt like I wasn't normal. But once I was about 14, I realized that this sense was a gift, and a friend.
Most recently, when I was going through a really hard time, I had a dream about a past self. I have never ever had a dream like this. What was so interesting about it, is that I think I called her to my dream. You see (in real life) I was about to get married. I was having all of these struggles with it, but I felt like they were not my own...like they were deeper than my 32 years on this earth. I didn't know specifically where they were coming from, and I never thought conciously that it was a past life issue. I fell asleep one night, praying for a resolution of the heart and that night I had this dream (I won't tell it in full detail because you know how long that can be! and I'd love to tell the long story via email) Anyhow, in the dream a man whom I felt I knew and loved (but was dressed like he was in the early 1900s) was trying to make me come with him. I didn't want to go. He told me I was his wife & that he loved me & that he needed me to come with him. I kept telling him that I love my fiance (in real life)...and that I had to go be with him. Finally I gave in. He didn't tell me where we were going. After a long drive we ended up at this house, again very familiar. We were staying there for days and days. I felt like I was suffocating. In the middle of the night I tried to sneak out, and on my way out the door there she was. I knew immediately that she was me...although we look nothing alike. After staring at each other for a moment, we began talking. I pleaded her to leave with me & told her that we couldn't stay there. We talked FOREVER until I realized that I was going to have to leave her behind. Finally I looked at her and said "I am so sorry, but I have to go" and I walked through the threshold of the door into my new life. I feel like she was a guide for me, but that she was still with her love as well. The next day in my yoga certification class, I settled in on my mat and my teacher announced that we had a guest speaker that day. A dream specialist.
I'm done now! Thanks for listening!
J
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MNFarmGirl
True Blue Farmgirl

52 Posts



USA
52 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2005 :  09:21:33 AM  Show Profile
When I was little we lived in a very old farmhouse that held the spirit of an old German lady. I do not remember a lot about her because I was so little, but my family told me that you could hear her all the time and she use to help around the house. My mom said she would leave some laundry in the dryer and come back later to find it folded and things like that. Also, my best friend would talk in his sleep, but he would be talking in Russian. He's never been there or knows how to speak it, but you can hear him some nights talking Russian. I saw a show once that said we remember our previous lives between the ages 2 to 5 and after that we start to forget. Very interesting, Aubrey
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Eileen
True Blue Farmgirl

1199 Posts

Eileen

USA
1199 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2005 :  09:23:17 AM  Show Profile
Just a note, To those of you who have ancestry german, welsh, dutch, or any in or near any of these , if you do a study on the celts you may find out that it is possible that somewhere in your genetic make up there is indeed some Celt. The Celts ruled the whole of the known world at one time in that area. The fall of the celt empire was probably brought about by just how far they did conquer away from home and how long it took for communication to be sent and received. It is a fascinating study.
Eileen

Songbird; singing joy to the earth
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Judes
True Blue Farmgirl

156 Posts

Jude
OH
USA
156 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2005 :  09:41:04 AM  Show Profile  Send Judes a Yahoo! Message
I do believe that children have that ability early in life. A friend once told me a story about her daughters first word. She (the friend) had a cat as a child, named Yogurt. Fast forward 30 years or so, she hasn't thought about or mentioned Yogurt in years. She's outside with her too young to be talking daughter, when a cat passes by. Her daughter points and says softly "Yogurt".
Eileen~ I am of Finnish descent. It does sound like a fascinating study. Where can I read more about it?
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