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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

2900 Posts

Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
2900 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  5:07:01 PM  Show Profile
Has anyone else heard about the latest rash of cooties going around.

I think there are 2 but I may be confused.

I heard about one strain that enters via cuts and body contact and will eat flesh away.

Think sweaty gym and dirty, wet locker rooms.

Think I'll keep to the pool, wear my flops everywhere and shower at home!

DaisyFarm
True Blue Farmgirl

1646 Posts

Diane
Victoria BC
Canada
1646 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  6:04:22 PM  Show Profile
MRSA - Methacylin Resistant Staff Aureus - a staff infection that is resistant to penicillin based antibiotics; acquired through contact with someone with an acute infection, ie. open sore. It is extremely common and is pretty much due to our society's overuse of antibiotics.

VRE - Vancomycin Resistant Enterococcus - contagious the same as MRSA. It doesn't always result in necrotizing faciitis (flesh eating disease).

Most of us have had contact with these bacteria, some people may carry it and don't even know it. There is really no way of avoiding it.

One of the biggest things to avoid - over-the-counter antibacterial soaps and household cleaners. These generally kill only milder strains of bacteria and leave the nasties, enabling them to become even more resistant.





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Libbie
Farmgirl Connection Cultivator

3579 Posts

Anne E.
Elsinore Utah
USA
3579 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  6:18:56 PM  Show Profile
Gosh - two MORE reasons to use natural cleaning products, aren't they? Yikes!!!!!

XOXO, Libbie

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Carol Sue
True Blue Farmgirl

4033 Posts

Carol Sue
Washingtonian
USA
4033 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  6:40:05 PM  Show Profile
Wow, I didn't know that about the antibacterial. That was some good info thank you!!!!

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MustangSuzie
True Blue Farmgirl

634 Posts

Sarah
New London Missouri
USA
634 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  7:24:30 PM  Show Profile  Send MustangSuzie a Yahoo! Message
The best way to combat MRSA/VRE is washing hands with plain soap and water. Alcohol based hand gels will not work. Another good way is too keep your body and immune system healthey. Most all of us already carry the germ, but it isn't until the immune system weakens that our bodies are compromised and the infection runs amuck. I ran across an interesting thing the other day....

The Circle of Medicine 2000 BC Here eat this root. 1000 AD That root is heathen. Here, say this prayer. 1500 AD That prayer is superstition. Here, drink this potion. 1940 AD That potion is snake oil. Here, swallow this pill. 1985 AD That pill is ineffective. Here, take this antiobiotic. 2007 AD That antibiotic doesn't work anymore. Here, eat this root!..........This came from the website nuwatiherbals. It doesn't say who exactly wrote it, but the man that owns that site is Cherokee.

Blessings....
Sarah

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Edited by - MustangSuzie on Oct 24 2007 10:42:38 AM
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KYgurlsrbest
True Blue Farmgirl

4853 Posts

Jonni
Elsmere Kentucky
USA
4853 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  7:30:27 PM  Show Profile
I guess this is all over--20 students in various schools here, in Northern Kentucky have been diagnosed with MRSA. Then this afternoon, 8 students at another school were found to have a virulent strain of staph infection.

2nd the laying off the antibacterial soaps.

I'm sure glad I'm not in school anymore!!!

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Marybeth
True Blue Farmgirl

6418 Posts

Mary Beth
Stanwood Wa 98292
USA
6418 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  7:39:05 PM  Show Profile

Sarah, I love it!! so true
Diane, thanks for the info and making it understandable. MB

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Tina Michelle
True Blue Farmgirl

6948 Posts

Tina
sunshine state FL
USA
6948 Posts

Posted - Oct 23 2007 :  10:50:57 PM  Show Profile
most of us carry the germs actually in our noses. So teach your kids to wash their hands when they blow or pick their noses.
Also when you visit a hospital... always request that the staff wear fresh clean gloves and that they wash their hands. Alot of MRSA cases actually occur in hospitals.(dr's seemily too busy to put on a new pair of gloves, dirty iv tubing, etc.)
I did an extensive study on this topic back 3 yrs ago when a loved one was dying from MRSA.
Vancomycin is the strongest thing that the U.S. has for it at the moment..and it is usually given via pic line. Europe actually has a stronger med that as of 3 yrs ago was not available in the U.S. because it was still being tested by the FDA and had not been approved yet..it simply had a number/not a name.
It is scary stuff and certainly something to be wary of.
When the person that I knew had it..the dr's would not allow me around the person at all during my pregnancy. They said that if I did chance it..that I'd need to be totally suited up from head to toe and as soon as leaving the residence I was to burn the suit, plus my clothing underneath...but that they would not reccomend me being around the person at all, especially being pregnant as it could kill the baby.
I do know that the person caring for this person that had it... they had to clean the room continually with bleach solution to keep the chances of anyone else getting it at bay.Terrible, terrible stuff.
Best advice I can give is make sure if you are ever at the dr. or hospital to make sure the staff uses clean items...always.After all they are there to help you..not to unknowingly harm you...which can happen very easily with unclean hands,etc.
I had to take a loved one to the hospital recently and the nurse that came in did not have on gloves and had not washed their hands and they were going to be drawing blood from my loved one. I looked over at a poster on the wall that said "you have the right to ask us to wash our hands and to wear gloves" ..well..I did. I asked the nurse to please wash their hands and to put on a pair of gloves.




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Annab
True Blue Farmgirl

2900 Posts

Anna
Seagrove NC
USA
2900 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2007 :  03:42:04 AM  Show Profile
And wouldn't ya know, I have allergies anyway and occasionally get a little rip in the tip of a nostril. I'm a little paranoid about staph, but do wash hands and apply ointment.

I agree w/ the antibacterial and over prescribing. After discovering lavender castille soaps, I buy these mostly and, Ivory and good 'ole Lava pumice soap when hands are extra grimy.

Also too, mere rinsing of hands doesn't cut it. It's the hot water and soap lather that get hands clean. Sing happy bithday or twinkle twinkle little star and that's time enough.

Sarah, I copied your little post and hung it on my locker at work. There is nothing new under the sun. New news is just old news happening to new people

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MustangSuzie
True Blue Farmgirl

634 Posts

Sarah
New London Missouri
USA
634 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2007 :  04:16:07 AM  Show Profile  Send MustangSuzie a Yahoo! Message
One hospital that I have worked at did a study. They had bad outbreaks of vre and mrsa all the time. They cleaned a room after the patient left, and closed the room off for seven days. After that they cultured the room again and found that the bacteria were still present. Just food for thought.

One thing that grosses me out is the amount of people that bring their babies and small children to the hospital and let them crawl around and play on the floor. A hospital is one of the dirtiest places you can go, especially the floor. We have carpet in part of my hospital now and it makes my skin crawl to think of what could be growing in it.

Blessings....
Sarah

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GaiasRose
True Blue Farmgirl

2552 Posts

Tasha-Rose
St. Paul Minnesota
2552 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2007 :  07:54:03 AM  Show Profile
sarah, that here eat this root was awesome!!!! I love it and will be posting it on my herbal medicine chest!


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emsmommy5
True Blue Farmgirl

1547 Posts

Angie
Buckley WA
USA
1547 Posts

Posted - Oct 24 2007 :  08:12:51 AM  Show Profile
We transport and deal with patients all the time who have MRSA. It is really only the patient who has respiratory MRSA and is actively coughing that I take extra precautions with. A few years ago, everyone looked like hazmat technicians when dealing with MRSA patients, but like other diseases, such as AIDS we have come to find that simple hygiene is the best defense.

We all have staph, especially in our noses, as that is the store house for it. You can pick up staph from just about any surface you touch. It is my personal belief that we create stronger bugs when we overuse chemicals/medications to try to kill them. Trying to keep a sterile environment is impossible.

My pediatrician told me when our oldest was a baby that all kids need to eat a few pounds of dirt just to be strong and healthy. Live as healthy and natural as you can and let your body work on the defense system it needs.



Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth!
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farmgirl1
True Blue Farmgirl

116 Posts

Robin
Douglasville GA
USA
116 Posts

Posted - Nov 01 2007 :  7:16:36 PM  Show Profile
Just recently the CDC has named MRSA a new STD. There have been confirmed cases of vaginal MRSA. Because we are all carriers, the CDC is considering not having MRSA as a contact isolation.
Sarah, I agree, it makes me so mad to see children all over the hospital. I have even had parents tell me that hospitals are sterile and the cleanest place to be so they didn't have to worry about there baby crawling on the floor. I told them to think about it, that's where everyone goes when they get sick. I don't even let my patient's go barefoot.
Robin

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ArmyWifey
True Blue Farmgirl

712 Posts

Holly
Abilene KS
712 Posts

Posted - Nov 02 2007 :  10:25:22 AM  Show Profile
There's another thread on this in the Here's to your Health section.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!

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