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willowtreecreek
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Julie
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babysmama
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Elizabeth
Iowa
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Posted - Oct 10 2007 : 7:26:39 PM
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Kitchensqueen - I don't want to act like I am telling anyone what is right or wrong but just wanted to point out why the Catholic church is agaisnt birth control. Any form of birth control has three functions. It first tries to supress ovulation, if that doesn't work it tries to deter fertilization, but if that doesn't work it makes the lining of your uterus thinner so that if a fertilized egg does try to implant itself it has a hard time doing so and often isn't able to. So while the main purpose of birth control is to supress ovulation there is a chance that an egg may become fertilized and then rejected by the mother's body because of the thinned lining due to birth control. The Catholic church believes that a baby is a baby from the minute of conception (sperm meeting egg) so in a sense it is/can be a form of abortion if you are making your body a hostile place for conception. So of course they are going to preach agaisnt anything that they believe is a form of abortion. That is just how churches work - preaching agaisnt things they feel are agaisnt the Bible. But as Alee said, the birth control topic can bring up a handful of discussions and debates when it comes to that and religion. I really don't want to get into it but did want to point out that all churches preach agaisnt one thing or another and that is why every religion has different sets of beliefs. A church would not be a spiritual leader if they weren't telling us between right and wrong and were only giving us suggestions. -Elizabeth |
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Annab
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Anna
Seagrove
NC
USA
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Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 03:38:57 AM
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Yea, I had considered the patch (the rods were recalled- Norplant wasn't it?). But I sometimes have skin sensitivities to adhesives and my good 'ole pharmicist was looking out for me and asked if I wanted to switch to the generic OH absoutly! So I pay just 10.00 per pack
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kitchensqueen
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babysmama
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Elizabeth
Iowa
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Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 8:05:08 PM
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Sorry Kitchensqueen - your message was right above Annab's message. I meant to direct my reply to Annab. -Elizabeth |
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shawna
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missouri (north)
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Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 8:47:42 PM
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the boots are way to funny! I could so see that happening and tring to act all cool about it! this is a great topic, I have been stewing this in the pot for about 10 mths now! I wasn,t on anything before i got preg. and life was just starting to get back to seeming normal, baby turned 1 and wow!no more period. so anyway life goes on and now we have a great baby boy and a crazy circus! So I would like to not have this happen again (at least not for about 3 years at least (or not at all) So evertone ask if he's getting fixed! He will not even humor this idea!!! And needless to say, the problem with the nayural methods are that you should restrain from sex for those high risk days, again not really a plan he likes.so whats a girl to do??? I know that although basically safe all my choices have risks of some typ of cancer. Not really what i want to deal with in my golden years but at the same time those years aren't going to be so golden packing around a bunch of kiddos! Now that the baby is here and life is a full blown circus, i'm ready to hop on the pill for at least a couple of years. I have lots of friends who have problems with hormones, I really didn't before. I noticed more when i got off really--like a higher drive and really thats all.not to really get into the religion on it but that was a big concern for ME. i don't want to go against what God has planned for me, He by far knows what is best for me and i will try to take what is given to me with a thankful heart. Some tell me that He would want me to use my head and make a good choice. I still don't have good peace with what is right. I know that to be a good wife and mother to my children I need a couple of years to get healthy and on track (homeschooling and organization) also some sleep would be nice too!
p.s. my problem with the pill is that i understand it is just a lower dose (way lower) of the "morning after" pill
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sunshine
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Wendy
Utah
USA
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Posted - Oct 11 2007 : 9:34:15 PM
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the morning after pill is basically three normal birth control pills taken at once. the morning after pill was created after the the birth control pill was. What the morning after pill does is make your body have a hugh shock of hormones then you don't take your normal pill and because of the strong hormone change it typically induces a period.
The low hormone constant isn't exactly the same until you take the placebos or ignore the placebos in my case. Then the period starts. I didn't do well with the patch i hate that thing made me have a 6 month constant period almost killed me I would never recommend it to any one.
Just so we are clear I don't take the pill as birth control that is a side effect in my house it is more important that I don't hemorrhage every month for 2 1/2 weeks with 1 1/2 week break then hemorrhage again. For some people taking the pill is a way of staying alive (my case hemorrhaging every month almost killed me literally a few times so did giving birth I went unconscious and in shock from loss of blood and had seizures). It is more important for me to not hemorrhage and raise the children, yes I have with the risk of getting cancer and dying because of it. But that is when they are older and able to handle life a little better than die now and leave my husband to raise three daughters who all have the same bleeding disorder as their Mom. I can relate to them more and explain it to them better than he can been there done that syndrome.
I am very religious strongly believe in God and family. I have faith God understands all our situations and gives us minds and talents and skills and yes doctors to help us deal with anything that comes our way. You have to figure out what is your belief on life I believe children are created as soon as egg and sperm meet too. So this wasn't an easy decision for me the doctors wanted a historectamy (sp) for me I am not ready for that as that surly means no children.
I have gotten been pregnant while taking the pill. My body isn't normal and it is easy for me to still get pregnant while on the pill I know with in 4 hours to 8 hours of being pregnant most people don't know their body that well. I have those children. My husband and I have discussed what happens if I get pregnant again we will have the baby we are not trying to stop that but we also know that if I do get pregnant again it is likely I won't live far past the delivery of the baby. So I guess I am not one to say the pill is good or bad as I don't take it for the reasons everyone else here does. I take it to save my life and to be able to raise my children and not leave my husband alone with our current three children or a possible four children if I do get pregnant.
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GaiasRose
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Tasha-Rose
St. Paul
Minnesota
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Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 06:06:49 AM
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There is a good book I have reading right now-so probably why I am quick to recommend it. It has a shocking title which I wont post here because I dont want anyone to get offended even though the book works quickly to make the word go back to what it once was....anyhow, go on amazon and search for Inga Muscio and its a very bold four letter word for a title. So anyhow, it breaks down the birth control industry and it breaks own the whys behind certain birth controls. I think every woman should read this book. It's a tad political, but worth it if you really want to get in touch with your fertility, IMHO.
HTH
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babysmama
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Elizabeth
Iowa
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Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 08:20:34 AM
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Shawna- For those practicing Natural Family Planning for religious reasons we do abstain during the fertile times. But for someone that wants to practice it as a natural form of birth control and not have to deal with all the side effects of the pill, IUDs, patch, etc. you can use NFP to learn your cycles, get to know your body better, etc. without having to abstain. Just use a condom on those days that you know you are fertile. Your husband should go for that! -Elizabeth |
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Annab
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Anna
Seagrove
NC
USA
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Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 11:55:57 AM
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Elizabeth
Thank you for enlightening me. I had a Catholic boyfriend for 7 years and there were many things I had problems with mosty because reasons for the things practiced were never explained to the level you shared.
i too am pro choice I just never though of it in these terms
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shawna
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missouri (north)
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Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 12:07:08 PM
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yea- the husband doesn't go for condoms either. I know, man is hard to live with. You see I don't think he cares if we have 10 more children. Some fool told him that after 7 kids you didn't have to pay taxes, I don't know if thats true, but sounds good to him! I told him there will never be time for "alone time" if we keep having kids. I guess I won't have a need for prevention if their is nothing to prevent!HA!
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sunshine
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Wendy
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Zahara
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New York
USA
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Posted - Oct 12 2007 : 3:19:47 PM
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had to laugh when i saw the posting about Inga Muscio.
tad political --ha, ha, As the book can be considered highly offensive. Yes, I have read the book. but do not recommend to people because either you wonder what the book is about and you buy it to read it, or you are offended by the title - as half the book, literally, is words like that. and if you are in the process of reading it, then you have not gotten to some of the later chapters. but unlike other writing where one sees c**t used instead of the whole word, and you have to figure out what they mean, and you somehow feel like you have been soiled. this book does not add any soiling and in fact seems to remove some and makes alot of dot connecting. Not for the faint of heart.
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GaiasRose
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Tasha-Rose
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Lynn
Summerville
Georgia
USA
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Posted - Oct 16 2007 : 9:18:47 PM
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Besides natural family planning, you can research Queen Anne's Lace. Works well with NFP. Very useful plant. If you use it one way, you will be MORE likely to get pregnant, use it another, and it works like the pill. Sort of. It is also very good for the female parts, taken another way.
DO NOT confuse it with a form of hemlock - it does bloom at a different time than QAL but it is deadly. It is blooming now, and QAL is done for the year here. |
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Jenna
Champaign
IL
USA
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Posted - Oct 17 2007 : 09:25:13 AM
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I have been on the pill for nearly 8 years now and couldn't be happier. Short periods! No yucky condoms or other barrier methods (I seriously don't know how I'd deal with sponge/ring/diaphragm with some of the fun stuff we do! They'd get in the way! TMI, I know!) I have taken a couple of different brands but now I'm on Lessina (generic Aless).
The way I remember to take mine is in the evening, when I feed the dog and cat, I go to the sink to fill their water bowl and there are my pills, right above the sink. I am in the habit everyday. It only takes 21 days to form a habit, or so they say.
But if you have trouble remembering on your own, they do have pill alarm cases: http://www.pillpaks.com/
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Annab
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Anna
Seagrove
NC
USA
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Posted - Oct 23 2007 : 5:20:34 PM
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Yea,
I've been on the pill since '97. No major problems
Actually took a break this summer and went pill free for 3 months-just because. Couldn't really tell much difference 'cept a little more cramps and longer flow time. OH, and I can definitely tell when I'm ovulating. I get a slight pain in my side for about a day. It's not uncomfortable, but is annoying if I;m sitting still. |
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Whimsy_girl
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Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 1:16:36 PM
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I started with a diaphram and condoms but found out that I had latex problems, so my doc told me about how convieniant the Depo Shot was so I did that about 6 years ago. I did 3 shots which held me for about a year, I had a 10 pound weight gain and some weird joint problems, went off of that to get pregnant with Kaylee, and my joint problems went away and then tried the minipill after Kaylee during which my joint problems came back.
I talked to a few doctors who all claim that bc hormones don't cause joint pain or swelling, but we tried nfp to see if that made a difference. My joints got better very fast and then I got pregnant with Halsey Jo. We thought we were doing the charting right, and my chart looked like it was supposed to in relationship with my body, but when I asked the nurse why I got pregnant when we were so careful she said that she thought it was because I had so recently been on the minipill. After Halsey I tried the IUD with the low dose hormones which didn't cause me the same joint trouble, but it did cause extreme bloating, He also reported being poked or pinched by the string, I had nasty mood swings, reoccuring UTI's and I think it had something to do with the depression I had last year because once I got rid of it all of that subsided.
Finally after discussing all the weird problems I have had with different methods, coming to the conclusion that we have our hands full with the kids we've got, how we don't really want to deal with a pregnancy while we are getting our new place in order and I think he was also scared of me turning back into a cranky desolate ball of unmotivated mush if I tried more hormones, Hal went ahead and got a vasectomy.
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Robin
Douglasville
GA
USA
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Posted - Oct 30 2007 : 5:21:04 PM
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I have used the Nuva ring for 4 years and have had no problems at all. My skin is great, no weight gain, and the best part is that my periods last about 2 days max, with no cramps or clots. I used to be on my period for up to two weeks at a time and could be no farther than an hour away from a bathroom. I had cramps and clots and felt horrible. I have none of that now. We don't use any other protection and no scares so far. The only thing is if you are prone to yeast infections, this is not for you. Robin
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Denise
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Ohio
USA
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Posted - Nov 02 2007 : 10:52:41 AM
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Brenda Past Blessings, I was wondering if you meant progesterone? That is the hormone our body makes naturally and as we age it decreases. The reason for the little mustache and such after menopause. I use progesterone (aka wild yam cream) to counteract the loss. It is natural though, not the synthetic type. I know menopause is a whole other topic but just wondered if that is what you meant. When women who are still having regular periods take it, it can help in getting pregnant if on it continually or if it is used every two weeks and two weeks off it can cause a miscarriage. Most don't realize they are pregnant though. I guess maybe they can't tell if it's a period or miscarriage. Not sure on that one. Just my 2 cents. Haven't used birth control in 21 years and have 3 children. the youngest is 20 next month.
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Betty Jo
West Bend
Wisconsin
USA
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Posted - Nov 15 2007 : 05:26:15 AM
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My daughter uses the ring and loves it. She has tried other methods but this seem to work for her at the moment. She still has PMS pretty bad but always has even as a young girl so she takes a few Midol and rest for a day. ![](icons/icon_smile_blush.gif)
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Wendy
Utah
USA
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Posted - Nov 15 2007 : 05:32:46 AM
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Just so you know midol gets rid of the cramps ( by relaxing the muscles that are tightening up to stop excessive bleeding and such) so what it does is get rid of cramps and makes you bleed more.
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