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garliclady
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Alee
True Blue Farmgirl
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Alee
Worland
Wy
USA
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Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 2:31:22 PM
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I like soy. I drank it instead of dairy until I was about 13 because I was really allergic to all dairy. When I got my blood drawn, I always had the lowest cholesterol out of my whole family. For the most part, I ate exactly what my family ate except for what I was allergic to. My mom was really good about only serving food that I could eat, for the most part. She didn't want me to feel left out or anything. So far I haven't had any issues with having lived on soy for so long. I don't drink a whole lot now, just because I often forget to buy it. But when I do- I way over do it! LOL I love drinking Vanilla Soymilk. Yum! I get cravings for it sometimes!
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Bridge
True Blue Farmgirl
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Bridgette
Southern
Indiana
USA
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Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 3:12:07 PM
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I think everything in Moderation. I have read both sides of the soy debate. The only time I would say to be careful is if you have thyroid issues, extra soy can cause extra issues in that case from what I have read. I also think it is best to try and stay clear of the highly processed soy "junk foods"
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juliet79
True Blue Farmgirl
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Heather
Worland
Wyoming
USA
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Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 5:05:21 PM
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Soy is natural, and a healthy choice if you like it. Depending on what it is made with (other ingredients added to it), soy should be mild and pretty versitile. I love raw soy beans, you can buy them frozen, defrost in a collander with cold water and just pop them out of the shell. YUM! They are buttery tasting, and delicious, my kids eat them up quick. I don't like tofu, but that's just a texture thing for me! Soy milk tastes good, but like Alee, the vanilla is good, but higher calorie and more ingredients to worry about! I agree with Bridgett, moderation is the key to anything. |
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GaiasRose
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Tasha-Rose
St. Paul
Minnesota
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Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 6:12:53 PM
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One thing I watch out with regarding soy is that soy mimics estrogen and can cause a girl to start developing early. I stopped Grace's soy consuption from daily when she turned two. Zoe, in addition to nursing, drinks soy milk with her meals. that will stop daily when she is two. they still drink it (Grace that is) on occasion, but as for milk, Grace drinks rice milk with me. we use some other soy products but not in excessive amounts.
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ArmyWifey
True Blue Farmgirl
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Holly
Abilene
KS
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Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 7:44:22 PM
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No soy here except fermented. I have read that unfermented soy can interfere with thyroid function and hormones. So now we do miso, tamari things like that --- never did like tofu anyhow! ;)
I would much prefer to have milk animals - raw milk is so much better for you! Dr. Mercola can seem out there sometimes but often he's right on.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!
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mikesgirl
True Blue Farmgirl
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Sherri
Elma
WA
USA
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Posted - Jun 19 2007 : 10:34:39 PM
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Good and bad - good protein, supposed to be good for menopausal symptoms. Vanilla soymilk tastes good, but it's loaded with sugar. Soy nuts give me really, really, really bad gas! |
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Aunt Jenny
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Jenny
middle of
Utah
USA
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Posted - Jun 20 2007 : 12:34:56 AM
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I don't use soy much at all. I don't use processed foods much and none of us are crazy about tofu. I havn't had to deal with any milk intolerance with anyone in the family and since we have all the fresh raw milk we can drink (and use to make our own dairy products) I have never tried soy milk.
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Horseyrider
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Mary Ann
Illinois
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Posted - Jun 20 2007 : 04:49:00 AM
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I agree with the moderation idea. It's not a black and white issue, but an individual one. My horse's chiropractor (a holistic veterinarian) says that there are enzymes in soy that inhibit growth; so I don't feed it to young stock, and he doesn't feed it to his kids. I have recently started taking some soy again myself though, since I'm perimenopausal. Years ago, I used to make our own tofu and okara, and it was good. But in those days it was unthinkable that you could find organic tofu at Walmart!
And I'd suggest to everyone that you take the stuff you find on Dr Mercola's website with a grain of salt. A friend of mine uses him as her personal physician, and some of the stuff she says he comes up with makes me feel he's WAY out there into the land of conjecture and downright absurd. Use your good judgment. |
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bramble
True Blue Farmgirl
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Posted - Jun 20 2007 : 9:42:41 PM
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Switching to soy after becoming lactose intolerant I began to develop many symptoms and conditions I had never experienced before. Cystic breasts, fibroids,two pre cancerous lumps the size of golf balls and excessive bleeding all in a very short period of time after making the switch. The phytoestrogens can be a trigger for abnormal growth of reproductive tissue and in my case that was true. After doing extensive research and talking to both nutritionist, oncologist and radiologist I came to the conclusion that soy was not for me. Two years later, no additional growths or problems as I am soy free.
As for soy being "natural"...think again. It is perhaps the single most genetically engineered/ altered seed there is grown. Far from natural in the terms we are striving for as organic consumers. Here is a link w/ other links to some info if you are curious: www.deliciousorganics.com/Controversies/soy.htm
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UrbanChick
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Ayako
Atlanta
GA
USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2007 : 04:56:00 AM
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I use organic soy beans and make my own tofu and okara as well. I will sometimes grind them up and make soy milk for use in recipes. I don't use it all the time, just when I think I'm going to make something that my daughter may eat since she is allergic to dairy. I think as with everything moderation is the key.
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ArmyWifey
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Holly
Abilene
KS
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Posted - Jun 21 2007 : 05:54:20 AM
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Just info -- if you know then disregard. Most people who are allergic to milk aren't really allergic to milk but to the protein casein in cow's milk. Some are truly lactose intolerant but most people can tolerate goat's milk better than cow's. The protein is not the same. This is so much better for you than soy or formula's for babies! Also pasturized milk is different than raw.
Something to try for those of you using soy for allergies -- soy is actually more allergy causing than fresh raw milk. Add in all the estrogenic properties, genetic modifications, and the bodies inabiility to process unfermented soy properly and it's just not worth it in my book.
Oh and I'm sorry lady but I disagree about everything in moderation. There are some things we just shouldn't eat -- I'm not saying this about soy in particular necessarily -- but you wouldn't eat poison in moderation would you? Yet we do it every day.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!
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Sarah Blue
True Blue Farmgirl
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Sierra Mountains
California
USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2007 : 07:23:51 AM
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I don't use soy because it's one of the most genetically modified crops worldwide, right up there with corn, and also because of the estrogen mimicry issue.
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RachelLeigh
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Rachel
Rainier
WA
USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2007 : 1:13:51 PM
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I love soy milk and don't experience any problems when I drink it. However, if I eat soy chips or nuts, I spend hours running back and forth to the bathroom. I've heard so many stories on soy being great for you and soy being evil for you, blah blah blah. I agree that moderation is the key.... However, I didn't know about it mimicking estrogen so I think I will avoid it since we're trying to get pregnant!
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lamarguerite farm
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missy
Battle Ground
Wa
USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2007 : 1:25:20 PM
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I wouldn't use any soy product unless it's organic. Also I think I've read that soybeans are processed chemically. Definately go organic if you choose soy!!
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gateway girl
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Shari
Missouri
USA
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Posted - Jun 21 2007 : 8:08:06 PM
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People with any autoimmune diseases should not use "soy". It gives your immune system a kick and if you have an autoimmune problem then it will only exasperate it further. There are 40 different autoimmune diseases but basically it is where your immune system attacks a part of your body thinking it is bad or foreign and needs to be killed off. I have Hashimoto Thyroiditis(killed my thyroid), Rhuematoid Arthritis and Osteoporosis. My immune system just keeps attacking. Please google autoimmune diseases and see if you have any of the 40 and if you do please don't use "soy" products.
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emsmommy5
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Angie
Buckley
WA
USA
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Posted - Jun 22 2007 : 11:12:06 AM
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There is also an issue with breast cancer. If you have a cancer that is estrogen fed, soy is something to stay completely away from. My girls have milk allergies and it is difficult to deal with that and not look at soy. But we have gone to almond milk to take the place of dairy. It's been a life style change for the whole family, not one my men are particulary happy with, but they are dealing. They buy their own milk if they want it.
I believe in moderation in most things, abstinence in some things and being careful in ALL things. I also think that we need to be very intune with our own body's needs and sometimes using muscle testing is a good way to figure those things out.
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