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Alee Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 07:31:24 AM
Has anyone read this book? Is it worthwhile?

Nora is having Temper tantrums and if I can't distract her right away then she spirals down into hysterical tantrums with destructive behaviors like scratching, biting, head butting, throwing herself backwards etc. She most often throws these tantrums when she is over tired or having an allergic reaction.

I have done a little research on the internet and this book kept being recommended so I read the sample pages on Amazon.com and it seemed like a good read. But I would love some farmgirl book reports!

Alee
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Alee Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 10:46:36 PM
Thanks Lisa, I sure will!

You know, even when I am pretty sure I know what is going on, I still find myself listening to the voices of doubt in my head. I guess it is just me wanting to make the right decision and so always questioning myself. But I think things really are getting better. I am hoping that with summer and lots of play and exercise outdoors it will be easier on her as well!

Alee
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nubidane Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 9:37:14 PM
Oh Alee
I don't have kids, only animals, but it looks like you are really going through a trying time!
You are such a bright & attentive Mom; I know you will get to the bottom of this.. In the meantime, give sweet Nora a hug from a farmgirl in OH.
Hang in there sweetie!
Alee Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 2:26:58 PM
Hi Heather-

I don't think Nora has any issues like ADD or ADHD or any of the other related syndromes. In doing a lot of research for her and into my own history, I have found that the medical community is calling this type of allergies Cerebral Allergies because they affect brain chemestry more than what most people consider an allergic reaction such as itchy eyes, coughing, sneezing etc.

Luckily since we have been home and back to our more simple diet, she has been so much better and the few times that she had gotten something that is a trigger, it has been a much milder reaction that we have been able to get some medicine into her before the big meltdown.

Check out my allergy blog- I am putting more information up there all the time. I am hoping for it to become a resource for others to maybe get the word out about these types of allergies.

Alee
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MagnoliaWhisper Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 2:12:44 PM
It depends.

For me, with Lela we went through a short while of this. The worst thing for me, was stupid onlookers who acted like they never seen a 2 year old.

Cause I would just let her lay in the floor and do what ever, till she was done. I was pregnant during her short time of trying this, and wasn't allowed to pick up much weight, including her. So I would just have to stand there and wait for them to be over. Mainly in the hallway of my apt building made up of 550 apts....lots of people coming by. Many giving me angry looks. Many asking me why she was in the floor...why was I letting her lay in the floor...I would just say she's 2. Now those were just the regular trantrums, not the super ones.

When she was younger she had the super ones you speak of...personally I think my Lela may be a bit ADD (not saying Nora is because I don't know Nora at all). Personally, if it was something that didn't matter...I learned, I just had to hold her a lot. I mean a lot! She never didn't want to be held...her crying hard would last much longer then 4 hours as well, an she would puke, and keep on going...and puke again, and again, and things just getting worse and worse. I let that happen a few times. Then just said it wasn't worth it. I was worried for her physical health with that kind of tantrums...so she ended up sleeping with us, and me holding her most the time.

She's now 2 1/2 while she still likes to be connected to me at the hip often, she will play with others at the play ground now, and sleeps in her own bed about 99 percent of the time. Last night was not one of those nights though! lol My husband really didn't want her in our bed last night, but I did tell him it had been a long time, and she was not calming down. This only happened about once ever few months now.

So I'm not overly worried about it. Especially since usually her tantrums are not over material things, but emotional non tangible things-IE wanting to be held, wanting to be with us. If it was over a toy...I think it would be easier for me to let her "cry" it out.

Any way....if it's allergies, I am imagining there isn't much you can do till they are under control.

I also have learned it is very important for her to have plenty of sleep, tiredness means much more tantrums then well rested! She doesn't have them hardly at all now.

I'm sure hoping that they can do the allergy things under control, and she probably does too. It probably is just as if not more so frustrating for her to be going through this.


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Alee Posted - Apr 06 2009 : 11:08:57 AM
Thanks Gals-

Heide, yes we did just move. And when I was young I had food allergies to guess what- food dyes and preservatives! Including Red food dye! We don't eat a lot of preserved food or colored food, but we are visiting my parents and there is just a bit more conviniece food and candy around that we don't do at home. I only buy graham crackers- everything else is homebaked so at home she does way better.

Sometimes when she is getting hysterical taking her to time out alone in her room just makes it worse, so we have to try restraining her safely in our arms until she can get a grip on herself. Sometimes I let her throw the temper tantrum and ignore it so she isn't getting any feed back from me at all.

She is doing much better today with her allergies as we have been letting everyone know to not give her the preserved/dyed things! My mom is FABULOUS with this because she went through this all with me!

Alee
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FebruaryViolet Posted - Apr 06 2009 : 10:25:37 AM
Hey Alee....we just purchased the Happiest Baby on the block in dvd format, recommended by our pediatrician. I really liked the soothing techniques he recommended, but I think a lot of it was commonsense stuff that my Great Grandmother used to do...when I told my mom about it, she said, 'oh, Grandma Ranke used to do that..."...

NudeFoodFarm Posted - Apr 06 2009 : 09:47:44 AM
Wow! Elizabeth, that is what I was just about to say. . .
Red Dye.

The allergy makes people hostile and have angst. I know it sounds crazy but my cousin had such hard core reactions it wasn't until he was hospitalized that they figured it out.

I too put my girls by themselves, But I just leave them where they are freaking out and tell them when they are done and calm down, they are welcome to be with the rest of us. And we leave the area. If she followed us, still freaking out,I would gently sit her down and explain I could not understand her when she is freaking out and she needs to breath and calm down. Then we would breath deeeep breaths together. Now when our girls see me or my husband starting to get upset they remind us to breath and show us how to slowly take huge breaths of air. lol

I am sure they get so overwelmed that they don't know what is going on within themselves so it is helpful to stay cool and helpful.

I always say not to reward unwanted behavior, but by guiding your child through a tantrum is not rewarding them, it is showing them how to deal with uncontrolled emotion. Which is the phase toddlers are naturally going through. Rewarding them would be like giving them ice cream to distract them.

Alee, didn't you just move? It could be all the changes, I notice my girls act up more when there is changes in our routine.

For your sanity. . .Know you are doing a great job! How observant of you to realize this is an allergy reaction, not a behavior problem. If only the world was full of mothers as loving.
Best,
h

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babysmama Posted - Apr 06 2009 : 08:38:12 AM
Throwing tantrums are normal at her age since children that age do not know how to communicate their needs very well. Food allergies can trigger them too, especially food dyes. My little brother would act crazy when he had red dye #40 so my mom had to learn to steer clear of any of those foods (and it is crazy how it is in almost everything!). I've learned that if hugs and kisses don't help and the child is going on and on about nothing I put them in their room and *most* of the time they calm down fairly quickly. My daughter has been known to have a fit that has lasted an hour or two and to preserve both of our sanity (and safety!) I put her in her room until she calms down. So far I've found my daughter to be much more of a fussy, whinny child compared to my boys. Girls are just so sassy sometimes!
-Elizabeth
Alee Posted - Apr 06 2009 : 08:31:18 AM
LOL Yes Rachael! I agree! Thanks for the book review! That really helps!

I think the thing I am most worried about is making sure that she doesn't learn to use the temper tantrums to manipulate us and carry this problem on as she gets older. There is nothing I hate worse than having a 6 year old throwing tantrums like a 2 year old over everything because they got away with murder as a toddler.


Alee
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cowgirlandboys Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 9:12:49 PM
The Happiest Toddler on the block is an ok book if you take it with a grain of salt. It has lots of ideas, many of which will NOT work with your child (they are all different so some work with some kids not with others-- they are just people like that!) If you can read it and not take it too seriously I think it is worth at least tracking down at the library.

Hope that helps! As for living through it, my mantra in those years was "This too shall pass!!!" Always prefer a toddler fit working at home than an adult fit working in the office!


Happy Trails!

Rachael
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Alee Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 8:24:18 PM
Yes, Jessie, we have taken her to the doctor for the allergies. Now she has to go see the allergist. The "prescription" allergy medicine for her was just Zyrtec and it did diddly squat.

Alee
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Sitnalta Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 6:55:55 PM
Have you had her checked out for her allergies? If you know for sure that its allergies, isn't there something a pediatrician could give her that would be stronger than over the counter meds that would curb those. Like a child friendly antihistamine. Even if its a food allergy, that would help it.
Sorry she is going through such a rough time. Its especially hard for Mommy too when they are like that.
HUGS to you both!!


Jessie
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Alee Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 5:53:35 PM
Unfortunatly this isn't just being 2. A lot of it is allergy induced and 4 hours has not even been the longest! We got up at 4 am and she threw a tantrum for about an hour and then it became a cycle of being okay for about 10 minutes and then a new cycle of tantrums.

I am going to get that book and see if that helps.

Alee
Farmgirl Sister #8
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Please come visit Nora and me on our blog: www.farmgirlalee.blogspot.com
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Sitnalta Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 3:42:37 PM
Alee,
We are going through the same thing with Levi. He starting in with the wicked tantrums about 2 weeks ago. He gets so mad and bites, hits, pinching, and screams!
I just wait it out. If he's tired he'll do it until he falls asleep or if is teething or something else, he will have it out and then chill out afterwards. Like Heather said, keeping them distracted and waiting is the best way to go.
I wanted to squish Levi like a bug today his tantrums were so bad, but he'll get over it and tomorrow is another day.
HUGS!!!
P.S. Levi is two too!!:)

Jessie
Farmgirl Sister #235

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catscharm74 Posted - Apr 05 2009 : 12:24:08 PM
Welcome to 2 Alee!!! I found that sometimes just lots of hugging, kissing, no yelling, distract, distract, distract helps. Charlie once had a meltdown that last 4 HOURS!!! I thought I was going to run away, but we got through it. He still has them, but working with him is lessening the time. Good luck and (((HUGS)))!!!!

Heather

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