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Missus Miranda Posted - May 15 2013 : 09:55:06 AM
Just to clarify, we're not pregnant yet, but DH and I are trying-but-not (if we get pregnant, great. If not, keep trying.)

At the same time, my best girlfriend is pregnant with her first child. She and her husband have so many books and there are so many things she's told me that are so confusing, scary and everything else. I'm an old fashioned girl like most of you, and am completely perplexed by things I hear.

I have NO idea how to even search for this topic. Basically, when and if we do conceive, I want to follow methods more like what my grandmothers did. I can already hear a lot of women gasping and horrified. It isn't that I don't want to take care of myself and our baby when/if I am pregnant, but it seems to me like there is a LOT of fuss over things that seem strange to me.

Now, some things make sense to me, like alcohol and tobacco. But other things, I hear conflicting information on, and sound like they may be "fluff".

I guess the reason I want to handle pregnancy more the way my ancestors did is because 1) I feel they used common sense and 2) we didn't really have any more health issues in my family back then than we do now. Honestly, some times I feel like my ancestors were more healthy than my generation is now!

I suppose it would be a "holistic" approach, or just straight, old fashioned.

Am I just rambling, or does anyone understand?? LOL!

Thanks for any help/advice!!



"I'm not trying to be mean or cantankerous. I just wish people would do the right thing, and use a little common sense." ~ Farmgirl 3535
Thrall, TX

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Lanna Posted - Jun 06 2013 : 10:28:20 AM
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Originally posted by MagnoliaWhisper
So just my opinion save your money and buy a car seat that converts to carrying babies from newborn to like 100 lbs instead of one of those you can take out of the car. And instead spend money on a really really good carrying thing for yourself. I like Kanagroo Korner Pouches and Baby Hawk Oh Snap, but I would join a local baby wearing group first so you can try on a lot of them to find what works best for you personally! Cause they can go up in price quickly and you want something you really really like. (although I do really like sleepy wrap for new borns!). Do not get a cheapie one though, because they can hurt you and your baby-don't distribute the weight very well for you and your back, and can cause hip displacia for the baby when they don't distribute his weight correctly and have him dangling by his/her crotch!



Ah, MIL's... I just hope I'm an okay one when my boys are grown, I know mine's been... challenging at times.

I'm a little different than you, I liked the baby bucket until my kids hit the height limit (26", so the seat didn't last *that* long). I could get babe all buckled in inside the house, then run out in the snow, with hands on the other kid(s) and get us all arranged. If babe fell asleep in the car, I could bring it in without waking it up - moving my kids when they were little and all about the boobs meant they'd wake up and want boobs, no matter what kind of frozen stuff needed putting away.

I think the Sunshine Kids Radian (but they recently got bought out by someone?) is about the only seat can that take you from rear-facing newborn to a forward facing 5-pt harnessed 7yo (what, my kids are the only ones that are 9yo and in size 12 pants?). My Britaxes never lasted that long because of height limits, and the belt-positioning-boosters or even the Frontier aren't rear-facing.

Nodding at the BabyHawk... I've got two custom BabyHawk mei tais. Love, love, love 'em. One is... 7.5yo, the other is 5.5yo. I don't use them as much anymore since my baby is 3yo, but if I need to harness him for a bit, I'll whip it out for a short while (he's built like a brickhouse!). Friends of mine adore their Ergos. They may seem pricey at first, but mine are worth every. single. penny. No joke, I'd totally pay full price for them again if I had to. And I'm fairly cheap in regards to some things, it's how we were able to be okay-ish while pregnant with #4 and laid off with no income.

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Lanna, homeschooling mama to four little monkeys that still try to jump on the bed
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - Jun 06 2013 : 07:55:56 AM
You know what I was just posting on another message board and thought of something.

With DD1 my DH listened to his mother more then me. And she had only raised him for three months then gave him to her mother in law. He was her only child. She went and brought him home from his grandmother house when he was around 16 years old and then he lived there with her till we were married, and he was 21-NYC takes a long time to save up for even a apartment there! Then we moved in to our own apartment.

Any way...I remember I really really wanted a changing table and she insisted I didn't need one. I have a bad back, VERY bad, and I said I did. She said no no you can just change her on your bed. Well...I have 17 younger siblings, we always had a changing table and it helped me a ton...so I suffered with DD1 trying to bend down and change her on the bed, and also if she peed on the bed it would take all my energy to change the sheets and what not! ARG! Meanwhile she insisted we did NEED a car seat that had the removable part that you carry the baby around in the store and such. And I insisted that it was too bulky and heavy, and I personally just like to carry a baby on me (baby wear). No no no you can't do that...have to have this stupid car seat thing to carry around. I told her it was too heavy for me and I wouldn't be able to...I had tried that with my little brother and just couldn't do it. And she said well then Vince will (my DH). He was like yeah yeah...he would. I told him I didn't think he would like it either...but he eagerly went along with his mom! And bought it....arg. It lasted about a week of him carrying that stupid thing around! And he agreed too bulky too heavy! He then bought me a baby carrier (that you wear your baby!) and later bought the car seat that doesn't get removed!

So just my opinion save your money and buy a car seat that converts to carrying babies from newborn to like 100 lbs instead of one of those you can take out of the car. And instead spend money on a really really good carrying thing for yourself. I like Kanagroo Korner Pouches and Baby Hawk Oh Snap, but I would join a local baby wearing group first so you can try on a lot of them to find what works best for you personally! Cause they can go up in price quickly and you want something you really really like. (although I do really like sleepy wrap for new borns!). Do not get a cheapie one though, because they can hurt you and your baby-don't distribute the weight very well for you and your back, and can cause hip displacia for the baby when they don't distribute his weight correctly and have him dangling by his/her crotch!


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - Jun 05 2013 : 6:58:01 PM
I'm a type 1, so I can't just do diet and exercise (cause my pancrease doesn't work). But, my diabetes has always been under control, since I was diagnosed. In fact, I have a lower what they call A1C (three month average) then most people who do NOT have diabetes. Even through pregnancy! 7 and under is considered diabetic control glucose levels. Mine is usually in the 4's. 4.7 or so. So very very tightly controlled. But, yeah laws dictating my uterus is nuts. I love my ob though. He's kind of the homebirth high risk dr if you will. He's all for home births, very very laid back, and so sweet. But, people who would normally do home births (and many who actually do do homebirths) but have high risk circumstances see him. Mostly the Amish around here, and a few other hippies like me. lol He's so funny and hilarious though and I just love him. Most importantly he LISTENS! I told him I have VERY fast births. I had told my previous OB that and he was like yeah yeah...and just kept on going...and didn't care a wit. I told this OB that and he was like really? Let me write that down, so that I can make sure to come right away when you call. And he did! He ran the whole way...still almost missed it though. Then he said my birth was the most calm birth he ever seen with out drugs and that he wished we could of video taped it cause no one would be scared of a unmedicated birth had they witnessed mine. lol The nurses were like yeah, Mrs Woodford is unusual for sure, never seen one with out any screaming at all! lol

any way, yes Rachel they did that in NYC too! I HATED that! Thankfully not the law in Kansas! Thankfully here the hospital was almost like being at home. They pretty much left me completely alone, and no testing after baby was born just let me be a mommy.

Our hospitals here though are not over crowded. In NYC they were! But, here in Kansas, I was shocked, I was the only one on the maternity ward. There was one other person though on the L&D ward and that was it. Most around here I think do try to home birth, or go to a birthing center. I wish I could even just go to a birthing center! But, crazy laws!


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
rksmith Posted - Jun 05 2013 : 5:02:07 PM
Something else that I thought of that you may want to consider if you have a hospital birth is PKU testing. This is a genetic screen that is routinely done on all babies born in the hospital setting. I do not know of any midwife groups who do it. The PKU screen looks at sickle cell trait and a few other metabolic problems. I do not know if the test is required with all hospital births where you live or not, but you should check into it. It is done after the baby is 24 hours old (if it is too early the specimen will be rejected and it will have to be repeated) and is done by a heel prick. You have to get 6 dots on a card filled with blood. It is a very particular test, if the dots are over or under-saturated it'll have to be repeated, if there are any abnormal results or inconclusive results it will have to be repeated. Sometimes the test results come back and are not completely conclusive and we end up having to do a blood draw on a newborn to check thyroid levels (most often) or some other labs. I had one baby in my office that got this test done 4 times! It finally came back normal, but it cost $50 each time--ridiculous for a test that is "required by the state". Another thing to consider with this test in particular is that the state will have your baby's genetic profile on hand to use for whatever purposes it wants--you have no say over what the state does with it basically. Texas got into trouble a few years ago for selling (yes selling) these PKU test dots for $4 each dot to a genetic company for research. I find this to be very disturbing to say the least. At any rate, I thought I'd add that as most people don't think twice about it.

Rachel
Farmgirl Sister #2753

True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised-- His Holiness the Dali Lama

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Lanna Posted - Jun 05 2013 : 3:19:03 PM
Heather, yeah, a friend of mine risked out from midwife/homebirth because after a few losses she was finally diagnosed with diabetes. She managed to get it under control with diet (her family's all paleo now, no sugar, ever, almost zero grains), but still. Laws still dictate uterus uses. :(
It sucks when choices are taken away, hence why I'm somewhat outspoken at times about things (like, oh, say, *not* buying a hog from a guy who says GMO's feed the world, I'll vote with my dollar elsewhere thankyouverymuch). Luckily my state's still not all that bad, and I've even got several friends that have done unassisted homebirths as well (planned, they tend to almost know as much as some doctors anymore - it's a ton of responsibility and they take it seriously).

That's awesome you found an OB that likes homebirths! It's *so* hard finding those. People don't like it when I point out that *because* non-descript me went and had homebirths, it freed up space at the hospital for those folks that really, truly needed that hospital bed. Our local hospital never has enough beds, I've had friends have inductions (again, grrr, don't get me started on elective inductions) that got postponed up to three times because of it. Well, and the cost differential... My 9yo cost $25K total at the hospital, all the other kids were around $2500/each, total.
But hey, whatever, I've got my stories of my 7yo that did the breast crawl at a few minutes old (no joke! I never would've believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes!) and the 3yo that was born in the toilet. It all amuses my neighbor across the street that was literally born in a barn during the Depression.

Anyway, OP Miranda, one fun book is Ina May's Guide to Childbirth. After that, friends love Raising Your Spirited Child (I've got two of 'em, it's a loud house), Love and Logic, that kind of thing.
Again, follow your gut. Co-sleeping didn't work with my oldest, but the last few kids it did until they decided they wanted more room to windmill/ninja. I ended up breastfeeding all my kids until 2-3yo (yes, through pregnancies, that was an experience) because we just let 'em self wean when they were ready. Oh, and breastfeeding will be difficult at first if you go that route (I'd suggest it, for sure!) - you're *both* learning how it works, and your breasts aren't quite used to the workout. It gets better though. With each kid it's different though - what worked for one, may not work for the next. It can certainly be a wild ride. :D

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Lanna, homeschooling mama to four little monkeys that still try to jump on the bed
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - Jun 05 2013 : 10:06:28 AM
Awesome advice Lanna.

We didn't circumcise either.

Because of diabetes, there's no midwife who would risk her career to homebirth me or I sure would! We didn't circumcise either. I have a funny story about that. When I had DD2 I was in the hospital and my roommates ped comes in and says do you want to circumcise? She was young, and kind of a ditz...and she was like um....umm....and he finally said well you know you don't have to...most people just do it out of tradition or religious reasonings, but there's not medical reason to have it done. So think about it and just do what you want. And so she said ok. He left. Her Dh came that evening and she told him what the dr said. He said of course he's going circumcised we ain't no hippies. We aren't going to listen to no hippy dr! lol I wanted to laugh so hard, cause I was thinking, I would kind of like hippy drs phone number! lol hahaha

I will say though I found a wonderful OB who is used to homebirths and he personally said he's working on insurances and laws changing their policies for diabetics like me. He said with my medical history there is no reasonings for laws and insurances to MAKE me hospital birth and he would personally give me the ok to homebirth if the laws were different! That's always how I had imagined myself doing it. At home! But, I have type one diabetes, and I had no idea Midwifery rules were they can't do that with diabetics. ARG!

And yeah, I hadn't planned on seeing the dr till some one was sick! lol

I don't do tetnus though either (not judging though at all!) cause I know we can get another tet shot if the need arises pretty quickly at the hospital. But, I am sooooo allergic to them, we just don't do them unless the need arose. I have had I think too many of them (I stepped on lots of nails and other things as a child) and last one I had, my arm swelled up and was very tender achey and red for a year! I went to the dr when it didn't go down after about 6 weeks and they said I must be allergic to the shot. And nothing they could do! It was a painful year! lol


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
Lanna Posted - Jun 05 2013 : 01:58:58 AM
There's another hippie-type forum I hung out on during my early years of gestating (mine are 9yo, 7yo, 5yo, 3yo), Mothering dot com. It's gotten a little judgier over the years, so don't take things personally there. It's a wealth of information in all the forums though, it can be overwhelming as you learn the lingo. Babycenter forums are a bit more mainstream, but I've made some wonderful (IRL!) friends from both venues.

The pediatrician thing... depends on where you birth. My kids at home? Didn't see our family doctor pretty much until 2+yo when we started individual vaccines (we garden and do a lot of stuff outside, tetanus is one of those shots we do). I did one single WBC when my now-5yo was 6mo - my doc looked at me, looked at her, saw neither of us were sick, and had a confused WTF look on his face. He knows us well enough that we only go in when we truly need his help/prescribing power.

But in a hospital setting, yes, you'll need a pediatrician. If you plan to circumcise (I wouldn't, but that's a different topic), you'll need them for that non-insurance covered bit. Some hospitals have the ped make sure you're all ready to go before checking out, some don't. But, you'll need to interview them very, very carefully. I've had friends that refuse to vaccinate, and they've gotten fired from pediatrician practices before.

If you're into a more holistic kind of deal, I'd *seriously* look into a midwife. Even if you're in the middle of nowhere, who's to say you'd be better off at a rural hospital (my relatives have horrifying stories of the teeny hospital in their town - they'd rather ride an ambulance an hour into the city rather than walk across the street to their hospital) than at home? Granted, that also assumes you're healthy and have a healthy, uneventful pregnancy and birth, but still.

My 7yo, 5yo and 3yo's were all born at home, and as they like to tell people, the 3yo was born on the toilet. *giggle* He was though, that's certainly true. You have to be ready and willing to take that responsibility on, it's not for the faint of heart. If something happens, it's on you, there's no one to blame or sue (yeah, don't even get me started on malpractice, either). I've found that the folks more at peace with homebirthing tend to have more of a strong spiritual, even Christian kind of tendency.

My midwives were lovely, and I only had one blood draw/OB panel with each pregnancy. Past about 20 weeks they checked my hemoglobin levels with a little finger poke or whatever and sugar/protein levels with the stick you pee on, but by kid #3, I knew the drill and had already started upping my iron intake by 16 weeks. With my fourth, my iron was really not great, but I got it from 8.9-11.2 in those last three weeks of gestation, just by diet and supplement (pills and I just don't agree) - that poor child didn't have his first prenatal appt until 33 weeks (we were unemployed with no income until then).

Anyway, all that to say, trust your gut. If it's telling/screaming at you to run away from a care provider, listen. Trust me.

And, work on your own nutrition and upping your vitamin stores before getting pregnant, if you're able. I'm a fan of Weston A. Price's research. I'm sure it's flawed some, but to me it's fairly common sense, and it just flat out makes sense. I've lost one tooth, and have a few more that are trying to disintegrate because of the toll of 5 pregnancies and over 9 years of breastfeeding.

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Lanna, homeschooling mama to four little monkeys that still try to jump on the bed
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - May 17 2013 : 9:30:07 PM
lol same here Miranda, I grew up where you only went to the dr when you were sick. That's not how the main stream people do it any more! lol

I am not trying to persaude you one way or the other on midwife. But, what I will tell you, is I had all of my children (total of four) in a hospital because I am a type one diabetic. I only had one emergency C section. And it was NOT like the movies. Ok, she kept coding blue with every contraction. SOOOO you would think crash cart, hurry with in minutes you would be doing a C section...real life was it was the next day before they performed the C-section, meanwhile the whole time my dr is fighting with the nurses. And the nurses are saying you know Dr. X has that room reserved for a C-section and Z time. And my dr was like, emergency C sections when a baby is in distress trumps scheduled C sections. Any way, in the movies they show it like you are wheeled in to the sugerical room for C-section with in minutes! But, I learned from that experience it's actually hours later. SOOOO even if you were home, I've heard the general rule of thumb is if you can be to the hospital with in 20 minutes you should be safe. Your midwife would be trained to know when it was time to go to a hospital if the need arose, and would call the hospital as you were en route to get ready. And from my experience seemed to me like well they would take their sweet time at the hospital even though you were there, so a extra 20 minutes, wouldn't be much different, if at all, in light of the midwife is supposed to be calling the hospital ASAP to notify them something has went wrong and to be expecting you. So in that light for myself, I wouldn't be very worried about it, cause in my experience it wasn't any faster to be right there either....


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
Missus Miranda Posted - May 17 2013 : 08:36:33 AM
WOW!! Thank you all, ladies, for the fantastic info!

Vaccines are a concern for me. I have a scar where a rather large cyst was removed from my arm when I was 8 in the very spot where my vaccinations were given. They said a bee may have stung me (never been stung by a bee) or a needle may have broken off (think I'd have felt that, too, and my pediatrician was actually really good with giving shots). I really feel like it was all the crap they put in the vaccines that built up. It's something DH and I need to discuss, for sure.

I have really been considering the midwife thing, though it worries me, since we live out in the rural areas. One of my friends went with a midwife with all 3 kids, and all 3 are well behaved, beautiful and quite healthy.

As some of you would probably guess, the idea of doing blood draw after blood draw is freaking me out. I've actually never had a blood draw in my life, if you can believe that. I rarely went to the doctor when I was a kid, I think I can count on one hand the times I have been to a doctor since I was 20, and my husband is the same way.

It puts my mind at ease that I know where to look, now, and how to start this journey.

Thank you all!!

"I'm not trying to be mean or cantankerous. I just wish people would do the right thing, and use a little common sense." ~ Farmgirl 3535
Thrall, TX

MagnoliaWhisper Posted - May 16 2013 : 10:27:47 PM
yeah it was so crazy! lol I had no idea. I know my whole pregnancy people kept saying you need to find a ped, you need to pick a ped, etc. BUT, no one said if you don't have one that they won't let you take your baby home from the hospital! NO ONE! lol So then I get up there have the baby and want to go home, and they say...oh no you can't take baby home till your ped comes up and visits...I was like...wha what? lol Also THEY wanted proof that I had a appointment with said ped with in 5 days of babies release. I think it was absolutely nuts newborn baby, newly birthed mom going to the ped every few days...illnesses, sicknesses in these offices CRAZY!

I also wished I had given more thoughts to vax before baby 1 too. I didn't realize just how many they wanted to give at birth and especially the first year of life! Like every other month was 6 or more shots. After 6 months of this, and DD1 had had at least 20 different shots in the drs office not including the ones at the hospital and she was soooo sick after for at least a week every time, I said enough was enough...we decided to do delayed vax (waited for more till she was 5) but yes HARD to find a dr willing to work with that, BUT, I would rather have a dr willing to work with me being the parent and one making the choices then one that thinks they are GOD! But, that's just me, I don't judge either way, people who vax, or people who don't vax at all, we are now in the middle of the road on them...like I said we lay off them till 5 now. But, wow before I had DD1 I had no idea how many vax the mainstream baby gets these days!


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
rksmith Posted - May 16 2013 : 6:28:49 PM
It's funny Heather because I work in a pediatrician's office now (my son is 15) and I had only ever taken him to the doctor 2 times his whole life!! He was sick both times--once he had a rash and I took him to get my dad to stop nagging me (diagnosed as roseola but now I'm thinking it was a vaccine reaction) and the second time he was really sick with bronchitis and a sinus infection and nothing I did at home helped (this was the only time in his life that he's ever had an antibiotic!). We did "well checks" and vaccines at the health department and he was (thankfully) never a sick baby (and rarely ever gets sick with anything these days too). I do however wish I had known then the things I know now about vaccines I may have done things differently (not sure since he hasn't ever had any major problems with them, thankfully). But anyway, Miranda, do your research on vaccinations (that is a HUGE issue with pediatrics) and decide if you want to vaccinate at all (be prepared if you deliver in hospital as they'll want to give your baby a hep b vaccine within the first 24 hours)or if you want to do certain vaccines at certain times. There is alot of conflicting information about vaccines so it is kind of challenging to know what is true (or at least has some truth) and what is not. I would suggest that once you at least have a pretty good idea of your stance on vaccines, you find a pediatrician who will support you and honor your decisions. If you choose to separate or not vaccinate, it will be more of a challenge to find a pediatrician (at least it is where I live). Another thing to consider with a pediatrician is to decide if you want to raise your child more holistically and naturally, will the ped support that or is it someone who likes to give out prescriptions like candy and medicate for everything.

Rachel
Farmgirl Sister #2753

True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised-- His Holiness the Dali Lama

www.madameapothecary.com
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - May 15 2013 : 7:22:04 PM
So true Rachel. Find a ped NOW. I didn't realize it was such a huge thing. BUT, if you have a hospital birth they won't let you go home till your ped comes up and visits the baby! I hadn't picked one, cause I thought you took kids to a ped when they were sick, I didn't realize you couldn't bring your baby home if you didn't have one!

Think about what kind of ped you want and start looking now.

Things on my list, but may be different for you.

1)Doesn't push vax on me that I don't want.
2) knows how to care for in tack (not circumcised) boys (you will want to decide before you have the baby if you will circ or not, they do it while you are there at the hospital). We chose not to circ, but wanted a dr who was cool with that.
3) Would perform tongue/lip tie "surgery" (really it's just a quick snip) on site (at the hospital, or in office right away). Cause I have tongue tie in my fam, and ALL my children have been tongue tied, and it can cause problems with breastfeeding.


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
rksmith Posted - May 15 2013 : 6:34:50 PM
Definitely start searching out for your ob, midwife, doula, whatever type of practitioner you want to follow your pregnancy and delivery AND be on the lookout for a pediatrician. A midwife or midwife group (there's an awesome one in Savannah) would probably be your best bet for a more holistic approach to pregnancy and delivery. Most pediatricians will do meet & greet appointments where you can come in and talk with them about your ideas and goals for health for your baby. I think that a holistic approach to life is far better than what most people go for these days. There will always be conflicting information on what the "best" or "right" way to do anything is, you just have to sift through it and go with what feels right for you and your family.

Rachel
Farmgirl Sister #2753

True enlightenment is nothing but the nature of one's own self being fully realised-- His Holiness the Dali Lama

www.madameapothecary.com
MagnoliaWhisper Posted - May 15 2013 : 6:28:02 PM
I wish I had done what I am telling you to do with my first pregnancy!

1) Find your local La Leche league Group. MOST the women in my group feel the same way.

Most of us did NOT take prenatal vitamins, however MOST of us believe in eating healthy foods-not a lot of processed junk, etc etc.

IF the first group you meet with you don't click with, find another one. I know I didn't click with the one in NYC right away (but I only went a couple of times) and I did NOT click with the first one here in Kansas. The second one though, I am in LOVE with! I really really fit in here. Most are "farm" girls even though we're in the city. Most have a few chickens, try to eat healthy home grown food, I see them at the local farmers market each Saturday, and so on. And YES you can go now before pregnancy. I sure wish I had of!

2) As was said, find a like minded dr. I bet you'll get some hints as to who are in your area at the LLL group meetings.

3) You may want to check out some Bradley Method books. I didn't discover them till DD2, but wish I had really really discovered them at the beginning. A lot of common sense, and a lot of neat things to learn about your body and how it works during child birth, and different prenatal exercises to do for a easier birth. For instance, I never bend over any more to pick things up, ALWAYS squat. 1) It's better on my back. 2) it strengthens the muscles you will use during child birth.


http://www.heathersprairie.blogspot.com
kysheeplady Posted - May 15 2013 : 3:47:30 PM
If it were me,I would start with a midwife ... most of them today are nurses or np ...
They will have a more natural approach to childbirth.
Good luck!

Teri
"There are black sheep in every flock"
http://whitesheepfarm.wordpress.com/
SandraM Posted - May 15 2013 : 3:33:26 PM
I would start by making sure you find a doctor who feels the way you do.
I had one doctor with my first baby that tested me to death and the pregnancy was stressful.
I had a different doctor with my other pregnancies and it was a world of difference.


Sandra
www.mittenstatesheepandwool.com

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