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| KYgurlsrbest |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 07:12:16 AM
Alright, so Justin and I were thinking on planning for a family this year. When I went for my visit with the doctor, she asked if I had ever been "tested" for my immunity to Rubella. I don't recall that, so she made me get tested...and, of course, I don't have an immunity, so now I have to get some crazy vaccination, and now we can't "try" to get pregnant until 3 months AFTER the vaccination. She was VERY specific about this time frame. Here's my thing...why? I mean, a friend of mine just found out she was pregnant (no "scheduling"), and she's never been tested for immunity to Rubella--it's not like the sky is going to fall now, right?
I guess I'm just a little bummed...all of this "testing" and time frame stuff takes out the element of surprise, and I wonder how necessary it is. I mean, I don't want an unhealthy baby, certainly, but I'm pretty sure my mom didn't have to do this, nor gran, great gran, etc...seemed like they just "got pregnant" and there you go!
What are your thoughts?
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| ArmyWifey |
Posted - Mar 06 2008 : 06:21:40 AM
They gave me a Rubella shot immediatly after I had my 2nd child -- -thanks now I have a lovely rash and postpartum hormones! And why after?!
The thing is Rubella is a harmless childhood disease in most cases unless you are pregnant. Personally I wouldn't do it, find another doc or midwife if you can who's not so into the whole vaccine scene. The Chances of you getting it are slim to none, just know that if you do there can be serious issues with the baby. This is something you and hubby would need to research, pray over, discuss and come to a decision about and then work with the Dr not the other way round. Women in other countries have babies all the time without this vaccine/booster. When we lived in Germany there was one summer it was incredibly hot and we were at the schwimbad all the time (with the rest of the city) and we KNOW a friend was probably exposed during her pregnancy and the baby was fine -- now they prob were over the truly contagious part of the disease but still; just an encouragement.
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| babysmama |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 12:46:15 PM
Jonni-
I have not heard of any of my friends or relatives having a blood test to see if they were still immune to Rubella. Who knows, I was vaccinated as a child and am on my third pregnancy and all this time I may not be immune to it, but I am not going to go get tested now. In all likelyhood, there are probably hundreds of pregnant women walking around right now that were vaccinated as children but are not immune to Rubella now and in reality the huge majority will have healthy pregnancies.
Let us know what you decide and we will all support your decision either way. But really, around here testing the immunity is not standard practice so I really doubt there is much for you to worry about if you decide to forego the shot. The fact that you want to start a family soon and are told in no uncertain terms to NOT get pregnant for at least three months goes to show that maybe GETTING the shot and getting pregnant this year could do more harm than not getting the shot. If the shot has effects on your body for three months that could harm a growing baby then maybe it has effects on your body four, five, or six months from now as well.
-Elizabeth |
| nut4fabric |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 12:28:58 PM
Jonni I don't in any way think that you are a bad person and I am sorry if it came out that way!! I do understand wanting to be informed and educated as I felt the same way when I was where you are, my analogy with the car seats was just that an analogy, safty first. I was given at age 34 a second Rubella vaccination (the wear off factor) so I know that that is available. It was however given to me by a peditrician, he was my childrens doctor and that same doctor that I had gone to as a child and he actually remembered giving me the first vaccine when I was two can you imagine 32 years later remembering giving someone a shot. It was his idea for me to have the second shot. I never doubted his advice as he was an extremely educated and well respected doctor in our city. Alot of this may have to do with where you are in the US, we were in southern CA a large city with many Colleges and Universitys and a lot of people from other countries. On another note I was one of those kids that was exposed to Chicken Pox countless times and never got it....until I was 37, man was I sick!!! The peditrician took care of me that time too. Don't let that biological clock get to ya, there's enough time to make your decision and have a healthy baby too.
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| KYgurlsrbest |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 11:39:15 AM
Kathy, I understand all of what you say and that you have a very personal feeling about this, but I'm "for" some vaccines and not others--when I say this is BUNK, I mean, that IF it's something I NEED then it should be more easily accessible to me....that it isn't, is somewhat disconcerting--also disconcerting is the "reaction" I get from each and every physician's office I've called. They all sigh and say something to the effect of "yeah, like I've heard of an outbreak of that lately". Additionally, there isn't a single vaccine for rubella--there is an immunity testing for rubella--but the vaccine is the MMR (R being for Rubella). Kathy, I'm not a bad person--I don't choose to harm "my baby" before there even is one. I'm simply trying to understand the "why's" of this, without being scared into it. I'm 34 years old, and frankly, none of my friends who have been pregnant have had this vaccination--not even after delivery. It was because I actually "asked" about my doctor about family planning (naively thinking that we would discuss bc pills etc...)that all of sudden, I had to be tested for this and found that (probably), I had been given the vaccination as a child, but it wears off in some people...me.
So, this vaccination puts me out about 3 months from even considering pregnancy--which is also a bit of an issue as I'm 34 and, well....tick tick tick. All of the "excitement" of thinking about having a family this year has been hampered by scientific worry--that has saddened me.
I like to be informed about my choices IN ALL WAYS.
Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
http://www.buyhandmade.org/ |
| babysmama |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 11:02:24 AM
Jonni-
Did you receive the MMR shot as a child? Because if you did, I don't understand at all why the doctor would have you tested to see if you had immunity. I was vaccinated as a child and have never been asked to be tested to see if I am immune to it. Many unvaccinated women of child bearing age do decide to get the vaccination "just in case" but I was just wondering why the doctor even brought this up unless you have never been vaccinated.
-Elizabeth |
| nut4fabric |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 11:01:14 AM
Having measles is no bunk at any age especially while pregnant. Have you tried asking for just the Rubella/measles vaccine and not the MMR. I know that my doctor in California had no problem giving the vaccine to adults, especially when the Colleges were having Rubella outbreaks. These outbreaks go in cycles much like some of the other disease.....every so many years it just happens. When you are planning to have a child you want them to have the best possible start in life, why risk birth defects when you know that it could be prevented by a simple shot. Would you not put your child in a car seat because it was designed by someone you didn't like or used a material you didn't like on the chance that you PROBABLY won't get in an accident. Not me!!! |
| KYgurlsrbest |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 07:08:51 AM
Well...I didn't know that...and,um. Yuk. But I thought I'd go ahead and see what doctors offices have to say, and I can't even GET a doctor to administer the vaccine--they do it for children, but not adults. I've called no less than 5 different places and all the same answer. So, I'm thinking this is a load of bunk!
Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
http://www.buyhandmade.org/ |
| GaiasRose |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 07:07:27 AM
Elizabeth- I had intitially posted that but decided on the link instead....thanks for posting it.
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| babysmama |
Posted - Feb 28 2008 : 06:53:27 AM
Some vaccinations use aborted baby cells and the MMR is one of them. So even though we do no vaccinations if we were to that would still be one that I wouldn't consider because of that fact. I don't want to bring up a big debate on abortion but just wanted to point that out for those who would feel uncomfortable with a shot that has cells from aborted babies.
-Elizabeth |
| GaiasRose |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 10:47:59 AM
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Originally posted by DaisyFarm
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Originally posted by KYgurlsrbest
I just wish all this baby stuff wasn't so scientific!
I wouldn't dream of telling you what to do Jonni, but I will say this...informed knowledge is definitely power, but sometimes ignorance is bliss too. I think you can probably read and research until you're blue in the face, but you'll probably just become increasingly paranoid and nervous. Trust your body, use common sense and just do what you said in an earlier post...relax and let nature take its course.
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| DaisyFarm |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 10:16:29 AM
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Originally posted by KYgurlsrbest
I just wish all this baby stuff wasn't so scientific!
I wouldn't dream of telling you what to do Jonni, but I will say this...informed knowledge is definitely power, but sometimes ignorance is bliss too. I think you can probably read and research until you're blue in the face, but you'll probably just become increasingly paranoid and nervous. Trust your body, use common sense and just do what you said in an earlier post...relax and let nature take its course.
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| nut4fabric |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 09:26:30 AM
A couple of things to offer to this.....First I have a friend (23 years old ) that is deaf due to her mother having German Measles during the pregnancy. Certainly this could have been avoided had she been vaccinated. Second, a few years ago there was an outbreak of German Measles on a local college campus. At the time I had my daughter at the doctor for a check up and he brought up that the vaccinations that we were given as children "wear off" (it was thought that it was a once in a lifetime vaccination) and that's why the college kids were getting it and that they should be revaccinated. Because of the "wear off" there can easily be an outbreak anywhere.
Kathy |
| KYgurlsrbest |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 09:09:26 AM
Thanks, both of you. When she asked me about my immunity, she first asked if I would be around lots of children, like in a preschool setting or something like that--to which I replied "no". I thought it was kind of an antiquated disease, actually, so much of what you say, Tasha rings, true.
I'll read up on the link that you've provided and I'll make a decision from that. I just wish all this baby stuff wasn't so scientific!
Farmgirl Sister #80, thanks to a very special farmgirl from the Bluegrass..."She was built like a watch, a study in balance ... with a neck and head so refined, like a drawing by DaVinci"...
NY Newsday sportswriter Bill Nack describing filly, Ruffian.
http://www.buyhandmade.org/ |
| GaiasRose |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 08:37:44 AM
MMR shot ingredients, scroll a bit...
http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html
and look at all the antibiotics that get pumped into your system with vaccines....talk about overload! no need to wonder about spuer germs is there?
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| GaiasRose |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 08:32:04 AM
Jonni- I have no immunity to Rubella, have not been vaccinated and my kids are fine. Just for a little bit of real to the mix. the chances of getting Rubella are slim to none. In 2004, only nine cases of rubella and no cases of CRS were reported in the United States. I am sorry, I don't have a source to cite. I know a lot of information and sometimes ahve the inability to cite it, though I could if I tried I am sure. As with most vaccines, there is more hype than needed regarding the diseases. Another thing to note is that it is vaccination, NOT immunization. You only achieve immunity from receiving the illness. You still stand a chance of getting Rubella with the vaccine or even FROM the vaccine. Vaccines might be necessary in some cases, but this one is a disease that is all but erradicated and thus the vaccine is not neccessary IMO. take that for what you will and do your research before taking your DR at her recommendation. Check also into what is IN the vaccine. Not so pretty, really.
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| Alee |
Posted - Feb 26 2008 : 07:44:37 AM
Jonni- I just read a little about Rubella on Wikipedia and I think this is why your doctor is concerned about you possibly catching it while pregnant:
Infection of the mother by Rubella virus during pregnancy can be serious; if the mother is infected within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, the child may be born with congenital rubella syndrome (CRS), which is a range of serious incurable illnesses. Spontaneous abortion occurs in up to 20% of cases.
Alee
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