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Annab Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 2:07:35 PM
hi all,

on the way home tonight I was listening to the talk show that had Susan Fixton "The truth about pet food" on talking with regard to the latest news breaking story about the tainted pet foods

Come to find out in case you hadn't heard, it was not bad corn gluten, but rather RAT POISION Now heres where it gets interesting:

Out of Eugene, OR by way of KOPT it was discovered that the local county animal shelter was selling their dead/euthanized animals to the local renderer these people turned around, sold the rendered "soup" to China where it was turned into pet food (I think) and sold back to the US. So I'm deducing that the pet shelter was using rat poision as a means of euthanizing....which in itself is deplorable!!!!

I'm sure this will be all over the national news eventually


My post here could also be a bulletin begging all of you animal lovers out there if you can, to start supporting the smaller pet food companies. Nothing of this nature is a 100% iron clad guarantee, but at least the smaller companies care about quality ingredients and a better quality control.

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_Rebecca_ Posted - Mar 26 2007 : 10:14:56 AM
There are petfoods (expensive ones) that have rabbit in them. Usually it is ground up rabbit bones + beef + other ingredients. You could definitely market it.

Some pet lovers get irate about dog or cat food that has rabbit in it. Some pet lovers love organic/natural food for their pets. So, it just depends.

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Annab Posted - Mar 26 2007 : 03:38:20 AM
Shannon,

I like your idea about the rabbits. If such a thing were offered in large cuts, I'd consider it. Finding the market is the key!

We do this with our surplus-too tough chickens/roosters and debone the meat for our pets.
ThymeForEweFarm Posted - Mar 25 2007 : 08:50:56 AM
When I owned a commercial meat rabbitry I sold a lot of culls to sled dog owners. Some wanted them dead and others were willing to take the live. If I trusted them to kill them humanely I sold them live. The market is there and right now is a good time to start talking to potential customers.

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Love-in-a-Mist Posted - Mar 25 2007 : 07:52:11 AM
We are raising rabbits for our own food source. But we occasionally have an older rabbit that would be too tough to eat, even in stew. This got me thinking about feeding them to pets.

Would you girls buy butchered rabbit to feed to your pets? I wonder if I could market it. They wouldn't all be too old, for humans. They would be humanely raised and humanely killed and close to organic. I'm going to work on a system to feed my own dogs and cats. What do you girls think?

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Annab Posted - Mar 25 2007 : 03:47:28 AM
As it is right now, we already buy our meat locally. We go in 4 ways with 3 other families and split a cow each year, so to prepare a home cooked meal for my animals right now and to know what's in the food isn't a problem. I know the farmer and his animals. I continue to buy pre packaged pet food ...even from smaller companies because I do travel some in the summer, and take my dog with me to work. So the convenience of a dry dog food that travels well is a factor.

When we are at home, the pets eat a little of what we do. We live on a farm ,grow most of our own stuff, and raise chickens for eggs.

As far as budget goes. Anything we do to fit in the benificial is for the positive.
Utahfarmgirl Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 9:59:59 PM
I never feed my 3 catsand 1 dog anything with "by-products" in it because I know it contains the diseased bodies of animals, among other things. It's disgusting to think about but if one is to be a responsible pet companion, one has to go all the way. They trust us to do what's best for them. I always read the labels on the "cheap" and "expensive" foods I consider buying for them and if the list includes byproducts, I don't buy it. I noticed that some of the food brands have several different "flavors" or "varieties" under the same brand.

When this recall happened, I noticed that it was ONLY the varieties that contained by-products that were being recalled and I surmised that it was because of something in the by-products. Now I know why. Thanks for info, everybody. And please never feed your pet by-products. Read labels. It's in the expensive and the cheap foods. You can't go by price.

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Tracey Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 7:13:51 PM
How much more? And, would you be willing to purchase meat from a farm and make your own pet food?

Just curious, as I see this as a potential market for old ewes (or other breeding stock) once they reach that point of life where they're not productive any longer but not the most desirable cut of meat on the table any longer. I saw someone advertising (for dogs) ground lamb at $4.50 lb. Would you pay that for dog food that you needed to prepare yourself?

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Annab Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 12:55:58 PM
Before ever getting a dog, I had heard about other people's pets getting cancers and benign tumors. Back then I was suspicious of the pet foods and figured most pet illnesses had to be linked to something in the food. I am determined to get more than 15 years out of my dog.

When I finally made the choice to get a dog, I really started reading the labels and tuning in a lot more as to ingredients.

As stated in the above posts, i'll gladly pay more for a better quality food...that these days may be safer too!
Tracey Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 10:47:43 AM
Personally, I think the trainer in question was a bit into spreading hysteria. The audio shut down here before I could hear it in it's entirety, so I missed the rat poison portion, unfortunately.



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Vintage Redhead Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 09:31:00 AM
I am sick. I am absolutely sick.

My heart is breaking that "un-wanted" animals who are supposed to be "humanely euthanized" would be outright killed with *RAT POISON.* My heart is also breaking that this choice is having *serious repercussions* for pet lovers everywhere via the boomerang effect.

And where will it stop? How long have many of us been slowly poisoning our animals with minute quantities of poison because we didn't know this deplorable situation? No wonder there are so many animal cancers.

I am just sick - physically sick and heartsick. ~ K

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Tracey Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 05:26:41 AM
http://www.kopt.com/

Down on the bottom right side is an AP video. Also, you can sign up and listen to the program (free) which aired yesterday morning.

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ThymeForEweFarm Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 03:51:04 AM
http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/rat-poison-found-in-recalled-pet-food/20070323113009990001?cid=403

http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PET_FOOD_RECALL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-03-24-05-55-22

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Annab Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 03:41:17 AM
And to clairify as to what I heard on the radio. The story is from KOPT Eugene,OR: 1. Euthanized pets were sold to the rendering company by way of the pet shelter in Oregon. Accordingly, this shelter chose to euthanize by using rat poision 2. This rendering company turns around and sells the soup/animal meal to China
3. China turns around and uses the rendered bits for pet food ingredients 4. The pet food is sold BACK to the US, distributed under the various pet food names and companies, and next thing you know,sick and dying pets resulting from rat poision residual.

Annab Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 03:30:50 AM
Curious indeed. The regular news will tell you tainted wheat, the conspiracy theorists (for lack of another term) will divulge the euthanized pets/euthanized with rat poision.

Anyone on the West Coast hear about that particular radio station?

It's kind of too bad anything has to be sold over seas THEN sold back to us whatever IT is!! What's up with that!?

I'm really at a wash too and shake my head none-the-less.

Since I only have 2 cats and a dog, I figure what the hey and try to feed them stuff good stuff I would consider eating myself.
jo Thompson Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 8:37:25 PM
I heard it was rat poison to protect wheat crops in China from rodent spoil? It was reported in the newspaper.......... Tainted wheat sold to the us....... really curious how this will completely pan out. jo

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Huckelberrywine Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 3:39:06 PM
Thanks Tina. I was just thinking about how much better it would be to make my own critter chow. I'll look into the book you mentioned. I don't know how lamb-and-rice would compare home-grown to store-bought, but the loss of a loved pet is a terrible price to pay for cheap (and morally wrong) practices.

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ThymeForEweFarm Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 2:53:48 PM
Did she mean that the problem that caused this pet food recall was caused by a shelter in Oregon? I think there's something missing in her story.

Some shelters and vet offices, along with highway departments, farms and other places do turn their dead animals over to rendering plants. The animals are processed whole and turned into a dried "protein powder." Did you ever wonder what happened to road killed animals the Department of Transportation picks up? Or where pets go when they aren't cremated or taken home to be buried? How about the millions of spent laying hens factory farming disposes of each year? And the offal from slaughter houses? Unpleasant thoughts... If you Google "rendering plant pets" you'll find a lot of information.

I have no problem feeding meat to meat eaters but I do draw the line at using pets as the meal. We either bury or cremate our pets depending on the time of year. Your vet can tell you what will happen to your pet if you're not able to deal with the body. It's much better to know and make an informed choice than to always wonder.


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Tina Michelle Posted - Mar 23 2007 : 2:19:25 PM
wanted to add that the book Country Wisdom and Know How has a section in the book on making your own dog treats/dog foods

with this stuff going on..it is worth taking a look into.

Seems this year has seen alot of recalls on not just pet food but the recent scares on the spinach and peanut butters.

Would be nice if more and more folks would start putting in back yard gardens.Then we'd be certain of where at least some of our foods come from.


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