| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Luzy |
Posted - Apr 09 2011 : 12:14:44 PM
Hi! My neighbor was going to take him to the auction because he says he's blind. I'm not sure to what degree, but anyway he is very emaciated, and needs love! I'm not sure how old he is, but his little horns are about the size of the tip of my finger to my first knuckle. I was thinking about keeping him in my backyard away from the billy goats, but there are patches of alfalfa coming up in the yard from our back pasture. I was told that it would poison (since it's fresh) animals if they eat it before it freezes in the fall,or dries. I'm hoping someone can help me with this asap because we are bringing the baby home tomorrow. Thanks for any help! Lu
--
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
http://luzy.etsy.com- My etsy store! |
| 21 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| kristin sherrill |
Posted - May 17 2011 : 3:43:43 PM
Well, sounds like the little guy is doing great. I am so happy to hear this. I owuld love to see another picture of him. I bet he's grown alot. Mine sure have. Thanks for the update.
Kris
Happiness is simple. |
| Luzy |
Posted - May 17 2011 : 12:55:12 PM
Hi everyone, I thought I'd bump this up and give you another update on Stevie. I'm so happy to say that he is (knock on wood) so happy and healthy now! He jumps and plays like a baby goat should and it almost brings tears to my eyes to see him doing so well. I'm still hoping for his eyesight to improve, but if not, he's adapting well and we love him with all our hearts. I want to thank you all again for your help and good wishes and for you Grace for taking time on Easter morning to answer my questions when I thought we were loosing him. You are all such special friends, and I'm very grateful to have you. Love Lu
--
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
http://luzy.etsy.com- My etsy store! |
| batznthebelfry |
Posted - Apr 14 2011 : 12:05:18 PM
With the DE Earth you do a dusting all over him & try to work it in under the hair...especially in the tail area & head/neck area...also it is a good benefit to mix a bit (few tablespoons)in with his feed daily to get rid of any internal worms...the yogurt is a very good thing for him as is kefer or even powdered whey...like us they get stomach issues that need the extra live cultures to help balance out things inside....Even a couple of tablespoons once a day will greatly benefit the little guy. he also need more iron in his diet so any greens high in Iron would benefit him..build up his blood...also carrots wouldn't hurt since you think he may have a visual problem...a good test for blindness is to take him into a dark area & use a flashlight...turn it on & aim it away from him but see if he follows it....move it to like his feet area & see what he does....Like the comment above he may have had such a rough beginning he just hasn't gotten all his senses fully developed yet but with the care you are giving him I know even blind he will have a happy life.....good luck with your baby boy....Michele'
Chickens rule!
The Old Batz Farm
Hen #2622 |
| amomfly |
Posted - Apr 14 2011 : 09:19:52 AM
I have used Tea Tree for fles on dogs. Do not use it on cats, it can be toxic to a cat. I may try some for goats, hmmm.
Come visit my blog
http://angieruralliving.blogspot.com/
God Bless
Angie-amomfly
#1038 |
| grace gerber |
Posted - Apr 14 2011 : 07:21:01 AM
I agree Angie not much beet and soon you should have dandelions which is verty good for goat tummies... The DE is a great dust and a tablespoon in the feed will help insides too. Has anyone used tea tree for lice???
Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio
Where the spirits are high and the fiber is deep
http://www.larkspurfunnyfarm.etsy.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.blogspot.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.artfire.com
|
| amomfly |
Posted - Apr 14 2011 : 05:15:01 AM
Yes DE is Diat. Earth [not sure of spelling]. You dust him with it. You can also shave him. Lice like hair, no hair, no lice! I shave mine at the end of April or begining on May. Beet Pulp can be bought at almost any feed store and some feed mills. Do not give him much. Like maybe 1/4 cup soaked in milk. I await other input here. I am always wanting to giv less then others. Good Luck! And no question is lame!
Come visit my blog
http://angieruralliving.blogspot.com/
God Bless
Angie-amomfly
#1038 |
| Luzy |
Posted - Apr 13 2011 : 09:34:25 AM
Hi again! I'd really like to hear more about the natural way to deal with the lice. Sorry, but I'm not sure what the DE is. Is it Diatonatious Earth? I know that's not the correct spelling....How much and how do I give it to him? Also, beet pulp....do I get that at the feed store?
Sorry for the lame questions, but I really want to do the best I can for the little guy. I'd be lost without your help, that's for sure!
Many, many thanks! Lu
--
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
http://luzy.etsy.com- My etsy store! |
| amomfly |
Posted - Apr 13 2011 : 07:43:16 AM
I too would use DE for the lice. Worry about getting weight on him before you worm him. I would also try some beet pulp soaked in milk. He really needs the calories.
I am glad to hear the bell is working, these ladies know it all!
I will keep praying and keep us in the loop.
Come visit my blog
http://angieruralliving.blogspot.com/
God Bless
Angie-amomfly
#1038 |
| grace gerber |
Posted - Apr 12 2011 : 6:10:08 PM
Glad to hear that Stevie is gain strength. I use a regular bottle with the Gerber nipples for human babies. I make a bigger slit in the top because if the baby has not good nursing reflex the other nipples are to taxing to get anything. This way they work a bit at nursing but the formula get down them quicker and get them on their way faster. I have and use the other kind and I only use the human nipples.
As for getting his tummy right. You can mix 1 tablespoon live active yogurt to the milk which will work on getting his tummy right. You can also purchase herbal wormers that are less harsh on this weak system.
For the mites I use DE - I had some come in on hay and then you have to work at getting rid of them. There are many herbal remedies to use and will pass on more information if you need it.
To help with his learning to drink water I use first just a plate and give a tiny bit for him to learn like you do with puppies and kittens. Then move up to a saucer that way he learns that the moment his lips and nose touchs liquid he will learn to start drinking and not to stick his face down farther. To teach sucking for those who have none use your pinky with a tiny bit of milk on it and let him suck. I have saved dozen with that - now you do have to let him do that until every time he feels something in his mouth he starts suckiing. It is a learned behavior now... not a natural one.
A great energy food is some shredded beet pulp. Now you much only give a little, moist (use milk) it is like soaking GrapeNuts. This will get him energy, calories and a reason to want to eat...
Hope those help but please keep us all in the loop - we want to get you and Stevie thru this and on to a long and happy life.
Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio
Where the spirits are high and the fiber is deep
http://www.larkspurfunnyfarm.etsy.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.blogspot.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.artfire.com
|
| Luzy |
Posted - Apr 12 2011 : 5:43:59 PM
Stevie is doing just great! We are so in love with him!! He seems like he doesn't know how to nurse or drink, but seems to be getting better at it if I continue to put some water or goat milk in with his hay. I saw him move the hay out of the way and actually sorta drink like a goat. If I offer him water in a bowl he puts his nose down too far under the water and freaks out. He seems to have better sight outside, and bell idea is working great too. He ran after Hubby around our pond for a couple of laps today, so he's getting much stronger. Next problem we have is lice, atleast that's what I think they are. He was covered with them. We gave him a bath in mild soap and he loved it!!! So, should I see about getting him some sort of lice shampoo to kill the eggs? Since he's in a fragile state, I'd rather stay away from chemicals if possible. Any ideas on that? Also, a neighbor stopped by and said she would loan me a nipple and bottle for goats and she has fresh goat milk too. But she said she thought he needed Ivermectin for the lice and any internal parasites. Would you guys suggest that??? I guess I'm being overly cautious! For some good news, the pupil in his right eye seems to contract somewhat, but practically not at all in his left. He wants to nibble on anything yellow and sees red too. So he's not completely blind!!
Guess that's all for now. I'll fill you in as things progress. Thanks again. Lu
--
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
http://luzy.etsy.com- My etsy store! |
| Bear5 |
Posted - Apr 11 2011 : 5:28:27 PM
Sometimes when a baby was never allowed to nurse, they seem to lose the suckling instinct, and on top of that, he probally is very deydrated, you may have to do a IV under the skin (subcue) to re-hydrate him and pick up his strenght, other wise try formula in a bucket and see if he will drink that way, I wish you all the luck in the world with him...
"It's only when we truly know and understand that we have a limited time on earth- and that we have no way of knowing when our time is up- that we will begin to live each day to the fullest, as if it was the only one we had." Elisabeth Kurler-Ross |
| amomfly |
Posted - Apr 11 2011 : 4:06:39 PM
I love all of Graces' ideas! How is Stevie?
Come visit my blog
http://angieruralliving.blogspot.com/
God Bless
Angie-amomfly
#1038 |
| gypsy goat |
Posted - Apr 11 2011 : 1:53:50 PM
i hope all is well with stevie(love the name)i think it's wonderful that you rescued the little thing-kudos to you
farmgirl#1362 whatever you are be a good one-abe lincoln |
| grace gerber |
Posted - Apr 10 2011 : 5:34:21 PM
I agree with Penny - the one thing if the pee is real strong is your need to get liquid into him. Aby way - eye dropper, bottle fingers just make sure he is well hydrated because the body will shut down without and then you will have to fight to try and get him back... You can place a bit of molasses in the water - warm like a baby and also if you have natural yogurt you can dissolve some in the bottle - this will aid in his tummy moving... I had a goat girl (twin born two years ago and she was blind. After working with her and her brother with bells she got around with no trouble. Then at 6 months old the blindess cleared and she see perfect now. The vet had not explaination but I was not willing to give up on her - Murtle is a wonderful gal and I love her so much.. Her brother Marvin was my sweet heart for being so kind and loving to his sister. They could teach so many folks about unconditional love... Good luck and please keep up in the loop - I will prayer for him and for you sweethearts for taking him in.
Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio
Where the spirits are high and the fiber is deep
http://www.larkspurfunnyfarm.etsy.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.blogspot.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.artfire.com
|
| Penny Wise |
Posted - Apr 10 2011 : 4:50:12 PM
how about a small opening in a baby bottle and holding his head back so it could trickle down--or get him to suck on two fingers dipped in milk-then gradually work the fingers into the bucket where he should eventually give up on the fingers-formula would be better for the nutrients-add a teensy pedialyte to formula....he should have the sucking instinct.....hubby taught the better part of 500 calves that way on his dairy farm....we're thinking a baby is a baby in that respect!
welcome stevie!!!!
Farmgirl # 2139
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
| Luzy |
Posted - Apr 10 2011 : 2:41:45 PM
Well we have "Stevie the Wonder" goat home with us. Hubby named him BTW!
He was not interested in taking goat milk at all, so we moved on to goat chow and hay, still no interest. We put him in a box near the heater and the little guy slept for 2 hours. I think that was the warmest he's been since he was born! He woke up and pooed and peed a tiny bit but his urine had a very strong scent to it. I was thinking he was dehydrated? He started nibbling hay and goat chow. Yippee! Still no interest in drinking. So this afternoon Hubby put about 2 tablespoons of warm water in his feed/hay mixture and he ate all of it. Any ideas on this liquid thing? Are we doing the right thing incorporating it with some of his food, and if so how much? He is such a sweet baby, I can't believe anyone could take this helpless little thing to the auction! Blows my mind!!! He seems to have some sight, like Kris said he may just be slow due to being so malnourished. So far so good tho. I appreciate all the tips and concern for our new baby! You guys are the absolute best! Thanks from the bottom of of my heart! One more thing, Stevie will be living in the house in my art room till who knows when!
Big hugs! Lu
--
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
http://luzy.etsy.com- My etsy store! |
| sherrye |
Posted - Apr 09 2011 : 3:11:17 PM
oh grace you are so wise. i am always impressed by your common sense, right on what to do knowledge. i know it comes from walking the walk. i so hope the little one does ok. the buddy sounds like a great idea for sure. dry hay so he will cud. i am assuming he is weaned? he sounds like a baby goat chow might help him gain some weight. just an idea. if you do you MUST start with tiny bits. the other girls will know more. i just know here we would give him a BO-SE shot. 2 cc i think it is vit. e and selenium to help the vit. e absorb. helps with stress. i would give him some pro-bios too. if he is skinny like you say his gut might need some goat enzymes for his tummy. is he in the house? he does need to be super warm till he destresses. again this is just my opinion. hope it helps. sherrye
the learn as we go silk purse farm
farm girl #1014
|
| kristin sherrill |
Posted - Apr 09 2011 : 3:04:58 PM
Last year Sadie Mae had a single buck kid. He was very big and he came out upside down. She had a really hard time having him. I was so glad I was there to help her. And he had a hard time breathing at first. I had to swing him around several times to get all the mucus out of his lungs. He was ok then. But as he grew I started noticing things about him. He had very bowed front legs. He always looked like he was blind. He'd turn his head and listen like he was blind. He always reminded me of a Down Syndrom child. He was really heavy and soft and so lovable. I loved that goat. But it turned out he was not blind and he was ok. He was still slow and bow legged, though. But the sweetest boy ever. I sold him with all the other bucks to a lady that has a huge farm in Tn. I hope he's still there.
So I said all this to say he may not be blind at all. Just give him time. He sounds like he might be just a few months old if that. What kind is he? Are you going to wether him? I hope he will be ok. I'm sure he will be well taken care of. I am so glad there are people like you in the world to rescue sweet animals like him.
Kris
Happiness is simple. |
| grace gerber |
Posted - Apr 09 2011 : 2:54:11 PM
I agree that I would not allow him to eat much at all of the fresh stuff. As for his blindness if you would train his with a bell around his neck, and a small bell on you he will learn to judge distance by the sound and he will not be dependant on you talking all the time. I would see if I could pair him up with someone other then you. Feeding him dry hay will also give him time to chew and also quite him down. Also make sure he has a routine that he can count on - same time feeding, same place sleeping, same place water -you get the idea - that way he starts planning his world and surprise are not part of it. Once he knows you, his buddy, his routine and such he will do just fine. Good luck and keep us in the loop.
Grace Gerber
Larkspur Funny Farm and Fiber Art Studio
Where the spirits are high and the fiber is deep
http://www.larkspurfunnyfarm.etsy.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.blogspot.com
http://larkspurfunnyfarm.artfire.com
|
| Luzy |
Posted - Apr 09 2011 : 2:11:24 PM
Thanks! There's about 15 dinner plate clumps out there. Do you think I should take them out, or will he be ok as long as he gets something like goat chow/hay? Thanks again! Lu
--
May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am.
http://luzy.etsy.com- My etsy store! |
| Penny Wise |
Posted - Apr 09 2011 : 12:48:57 PM
from a wise dairy farmer-make sure there is plenty of dry food for him--if he eats too much fresh he'll bloat but its not poison.....
is it just a few alfalfa "weeds" here and there ? if so-eliminate them-----otherwise it's approximately 20% protein....
Farmgirl # 2139
~*~ counting my pennies and biding my time; my dreams are adding up!~*~ |
