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HemetGardener Posted - May 25 2013 : 12:01:53 PM
I think that in light of the recent tornadoes that a book chapter or newsletter article on survival would be a great idea.
Whether you are at home in the suburbs when a tornado strikes, glamping when a bear shows up or out on the farm by yourself and a pipe breaks. What would you do?
Any comments?
Terri
# 4720 Hemet CA
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rksmith Posted - Jun 02 2013 : 10:11:46 AM
I just came across a really good site that teaches medical skills for survival situations. The Patriot Nurse, she does classes all over the place. Her videos are good too. I think that medical skills is one area that most people don't think about until it's too late. In our house, DH handles the food preps and I take care of the medical.

Rachel
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JaneMarie Posted - Jun 01 2013 : 9:06:55 PM
Another super idea, Cindy. I have a to go bag, but it's your typical red canvas. I think it needs some decoration! Good call!
quote:
Originally posted by CindyG

To throw a specific idea in here, I can see MJB rockin' an incredible article about a practical, functional yet lovely "go bag".

Who has one already? We do, after not just a few experiences with serious weather but also a presentation from a local instructor who trained with the Department of Homeland Security - his strongest recommendation was to have one per family member and pet. I just need to remember to check the food and water in them every few months.



Home is where your heart is.
darlenelovesart Posted - May 31 2013 : 10:05:34 AM
Cindy

I don't have one either It sure is a good idea.

Are you going to make one?
hugs
darlene

I have learned that to have a good friend is the purest of all God's gifts, for it is a love that has no exchange of payment.
by Frances Farmer

Just follow God unquestioningly.
Because you love Him so, for if you trust His judgment there is nothing you need to know.

I trust in you Jesus...
CindyG Posted - May 31 2013 : 04:53:54 AM
To throw a specific idea in here, I can see MJB rockin' an incredible article about a practical, functional yet lovely "go bag".

Who has one already? We do, after not just a few experiences with serious weather but also a presentation from a local instructor who trained with the Department of Homeland Security - his strongest recommendation was to have one per family member and pet. I just need to remember to check the food and water in them every few months.
JaneMarie Posted - May 28 2013 : 8:59:58 PM
You get some pretty harsh weather and some significant shakers up there, so being prepared is probably part of everyday life for you! My ex-brother-in-law lives in Arcata and has told of good-sized temblors. You take care, too, and call on me anytime to share stories!
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Originally posted by darlenelovesart

Thanks for the advice Jane, I am glad you are ok with all the fires you do have down there and as you say the shaking going on as well. I live at the top of Ca up by Eureka and we shake but thank God not many fires.
Well you take care and thanks again.
hugs
darlene

I have learned that to have a good friend is the purest of all God's gifts, for it is a love that has no exchange of payment.
by Frances Farmer

Just follow God unquestioningly.
Because you love Him so, for if you trust His judgment there is nothing you need to know.

I trust in you Jesus...



Home is where your heart is.
darlenelovesart Posted - May 28 2013 : 8:05:55 PM
Thanks for the advice Jane, I am glad you are ok with all the fires you do have down there and as you say the shaking going on as well. I live at the top of Ca up by Eureka and we shake but thank God not many fires.
Well you take care and thanks again.
hugs
darlene

I have learned that to have a good friend is the purest of all God's gifts, for it is a love that has no exchange of payment.
by Frances Farmer

Just follow God unquestioningly.
Because you love Him so, for if you trust His judgment there is nothing you need to know.

I trust in you Jesus...
JaneMarie Posted - May 28 2013 : 5:36:45 PM
I couldn't agree more with all of your comments regarding learning to be prepared for emergencies/disasters. I live in earthquake and fire country, aka Southern California, where you can experience "shake and bake" at any time.

For those of you who heard about it, the Springs Fire that occurred at the beginning of May was right behind where my husband and I live. In fact, our travel trailer was parked in the RV lot where 15 other RVs burned up. The fire was racing down the mountain to the RV lot when my I sent my husband up to the lot to get the travel trailer (I stayed at the house to get things ready to bug out). No sooner had my husband cleared the gate (it took him about 5 minutes to get hooked up and going) and started down the hill to the house (about a minute away), the propane tanks started blowing up some of the other RVs. We grabbed the cats and essential stuff, threw it into the travel trailer, and headed out of harm's way.

While we ultimately didn't actually have to evacuate, what my husband and I learned from this event was that all the plans we had made about what we would do in various disasters really made a difference. You can't prepare for everything, but like the old saying goes, "If you fail to prepare, prepare to fail." All of that to say, it would be nice to see discussion about survival/preparedness.

Home is where your heart is.
darlenelovesart Posted - May 28 2013 : 2:06:45 PM
This is a good topic. I agree that children need to get back to nature and basics before it is all lost completely.
Survival skills are important especially in emergencies. I admit I need to know more myself.
Thanks
hugs

I have learned that to have a good friend is the purest of all God's gifts, for it is a love that has no exchange of payment.
by Frances Farmer

Just follow God unquestioningly.
Because you love Him so, for if you trust His judgment there is nothing you need to know.

I trust in you Jesus...
MayFay Posted - May 28 2013 : 05:26:02 AM
There are some survival skills in the merit badges, but I like Terri's idea. I moved from earthquakes to tornados. Earthquakes I can do, but in a big storm I look for which way the opossums are running and run that way, too. So needless to say, I could use a few more emergency skills than that!

@Cindy -- Yes, it seems more parents need to be taught how to parent. But that's what I love about MJF -- the passing on of important life skills. Parents are ultimately teachers, hopefully producing a competent adult by the time their children reach eighteen.

Farmgirl Sister #5093
CindyG Posted - May 28 2013 : 04:27:52 AM
I don't mean to hijack this thread to become a Girl Scout chat, but the tie-in to the survival skills suggestion for a book/article is still here.

I also don't want to turn this into a big philosophical/political discussion about GS, but...from my several years of being involved as a leader have demonstrated how the organization is moving away from camping and outdoor skills. GS camps are still there, except for the ones they are selling off. But actual outdoor and camping skills are less the focus as they turn much, much more toward science and technology. Yes, those are important things, but they get that at school. They don't get camping skills and certainly don't do outdoors stuff at most schools.

This tack away from these skills may be all the more reason for outdoor skills/survival skills coverage.

MJ's Outpost covers numerous safety topics and talks about my inspiration for getting kids outdoors - the "nature deficit disorder" defined in the book Last Child in the Woods. Expanding on the idea of getting them outside and focus on how to be safe while we're out there would be great.

Couple this with a painful-to-watch trend of many parents doing everything for their kids and teaching them very little, and such a book or article takes on that much more meaning.

Look up a book called The Dumbest Generation. Unkind title, I know, but it was written by a woman who came to the horrifying realization that she was actually harming her kidd by doing everything for her, when she originally thought she was doing the kid a favor. She describes watching her maybe 12 year old daughter try to stuff a hanger down the neck of her buttoned-up Oxford shirt, then kid tried threading it up through the bottom. At 12 years old the kid had no idea how to hang up a shirt -how a hanger worked - because mom always hung up her laundry. The mom saw most of her peers doing the same thing and wrote this book to point out the well-intended error of their ways.

Can you imagine those kids in an emergency? I don't consider doing one's own laundry a survival skill in the sense that we are talking here, but it certainly is a basic life skill and apparently many kids aren't even getting taught those. If they don't know the basics, how can they improvise under less-than-ideal or even emergency circumstances?

Penny Wise Posted - May 27 2013 : 5:17:43 PM
i was a Scout as a kid-Brownie thru Cadette and lead my daughter's troop for 12 years thru it all! loved the camping the best!

i do think we need to really be more prepared and Mary Jane does have such a way of teaching..as do so many of our farmsisters!!!!!

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gramadinah Posted - May 27 2013 : 12:52:20 PM
Cindy Girl Scouts ROCK! I loved being a leader and took both my girls and there friends all the way to Cadets. I think the whole idea of the scouts is great for all kids. And wish there were more troops going.

Diana

Farmgirl Sister #273
CindyG Posted - May 27 2013 : 10:24:51 AM
I like this suggestion a lot.

This is one of the main reasons I became a Girl Scout leader - to take these young ladies camping and let them learn how life works without a light switch, pizza delivery and maybe even no running water. True primitive camping with them was quite an experience, and their sense of accomplishment at the end of the weekend was a wonderful thing to see. (As an aside: they all had to take turns tending to the glorified bucket toilet Glamping pg 76 and on the chore chart it was called "doodie duty"!) I have been seeing evidence that they want to learn more and do more on their own, so I'm thrilled we caught their interest so young.

The "Safety" chapter of Glamping covers some of this topic, but perhaps expanding on it could be of great use to a number of people. MJB has such a gift for teaching the reader in a way that is more like a conversation - more approachable and therefore more likely to be read.

gramadinah Posted - May 25 2013 : 2:27:34 PM
If the pump is out in the well. I have 4000. gals of water in a cement tank. The lid comes off and I can get water. We never saw a bear living in Alaska at our tent sites but always had the cars unlocked and key in them If a bear want's something they will get it. It is best to just leave. I have had both copper and PVC pipes break and have fixed both. I do live not in a tornado prone area but I do have a bathroom/ laundry deep in the basement behind cinder block not perfect but substantial.Here in Idaho they say the thing that will get us is earthquake but the only one on record was so big that it formed most of Yellowstone and that are area would not be here anymore. I really hate not having electricity but that is just because it is a luxury for the most part think about how things were before we had it. No tv no computers, phones, but I can cook,& heat the house with wood. The biggest problem would be keeping perishable foods I think I would begin by putting a root cellar together and collecting any and all Jars for canning.

I have thought about. But I hope it doesn't happen.
I have even tried to figure out how to get my kids and grands here I think it will take a collective effort to keep a family going.

Diana

Farmgirl Sister #273

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