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| Chinook Cottage |
Posted - Apr 26 2009 : 2:54:35 PM
What if this flu thing becomes a big thing and you are ordered to stay in your homes...Do you have enough food to manage?
If Not will you be stocking up?
Or do you think this is just a hype thing in the news?
Thanks.
Chinook Cottage
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| mulegirl |
Posted - May 08 2009 : 1:17:20 PM
Hi Marcie,
An old wise friend once told me EVERYTHING begins with a thought, and it has stuck in my head...when you think (a thought!) about it it makes sense.
It is cool and abit sad your husband was raised by his grandparents. Sad he didn't have his mom and dad, but in a way so special he had a unique experience. I love my mom's parents so much with their farm and orchard and evey type of animal. It would have been interesting if they raised me. Sometimes I feel like I was raised by old people as my mom was 36 and dad was 42 when they had me, and even today everyone has grandparents the same age as my parents!
Enjoy
Rosemary
smile, follow your heart and don't look back
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| Celticheart |
Posted - May 08 2009 : 10:47:36 AM
I've watched the first half of the video with Bruce Lipton on Youtube. It's very good so far.
I'm with you Cherry. I firmly believe that we create our own reality by our thoughts, our words and our actions. I've also known one other person named Cherry. She was my ex-husband's second wife. I really liked her.
Rosemary.....yes my DH is a great guy. His mom died when he was 10 and he was raised by his grandparents. One time I made him mad by telling him it was pretty obvious that he was raised by 'old people.' He asked me what that was supposed to mean. It was just an observation but I know that his grandma used to run to the doctor for every little thing, real or imagined. He's not so much that way anymore.
It's not about being perfect, but enjoying what you do. Set aside time to be creative.
Robyn Pandolph
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| CherryMeDarlin |
Posted - May 07 2009 : 12:14:26 PM
I believe we have yet to fully understand the power of our thoughts, so I totally agree with you, Marcia. I've read The Secret and was struck by how much of it is Biblical-based, whether the authors intended it or not. A lot of it has to do with faith and believing, sure, but I think our reality, to a large degree, follows the path of our thoughts. Why else would we be charged to "think on these things" in Phillipians, "true and honorable and right", "pure and lovely and admirable", "excellent and worthy of praise"? And several times in the Bible we're instructed to "rebuke" a thing. It all goes hand-in-hand. The power of suggestion. The power of our thoughts. The power of our choices. The power of our words. We're some pretty powerful beings, huh?
Oh, and my DH sometimes thinks I'm nuts, too. You aren't alone in that! 
~~Cherry~~
"A thing is as simple or as complicated as you make it." --TT Murphy |
| mulegirl |
Posted - May 07 2009 : 06:30:04 AM
Marcie,
Here is an hour long utube by Bruce Lipton if you have a little time to watch.
Your husband is probably a wonderful person, but I think men and women think differently. Men used to think the world was flat.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8506668136396723343
enjoy
rosemary
smile, follow your heart and don't look back
http://web.mac.com/rosemaryart |
| Celticheart |
Posted - May 06 2009 : 8:38:04 PM
No I haven't. I'll look him up. It sounds very interesting. You know my DH thinks I'm nuts when I start talking like this.
It's not about being perfect, but enjoying what you do. Set aside time to be creative.
Robyn Pandolph
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| mulegirl |
Posted - May 06 2009 : 8:25:44 PM
Hi Marcia,
THE SECRET was pretty good, have you ever read or heard about Bruce Lipton? He has some good utube talks, but I read his book THE WISDOM OFYOUR CELLS:HOW YOUR BELIEFS CONTROLL YOUR BIOLOGY. Really interesting.
Funny about your husband and side effects, but isn't it true with most of the general public?
I totally agree with your last statement..and it isn't just saying stuff out loud, it is thoughts, too!
happy thoughts!
Rosemary
smile, follow your heart and don't look back
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| Celticheart |
Posted - May 06 2009 : 8:10:28 PM
Wow! All of that is so very true. I've been a nurse for 35 years and I could tell you some stories. I once gave and injection to a biker who had been in an accident and had a pretty bad case of road rash. He didn't ask me what it was and I didn't tell him but it was the best pain med he'd ever had. It lasted my entire 8 hour shift and beyond. It was Penicillin. Plus I'm married to a man who should never be given the paper with the prescription that lists the possible side effects or adverse reactions. He will get every one of them.
I also believe you should never say out loud that you feel sick because as soon as you do you've claimed it and you will get sick for sure. Sometimes you shouldn't even think it. Much along the lines of the book The Secret.
Marcia--(yes I do realize just how strange that last statement sounds)
It's not about being perfect, but enjoying what you do. Set aside time to be creative.
Robyn Pandolph
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| mulegirl |
Posted - May 03 2009 : 07:35:15 AM
Some thing to think about... Have you heard about the placebo effect? Basically it means if you believe in something, that's what you get. So if you believe you are in danger of the flu you are more likely to get it, but the opposite is true, if you believe you are healthy and fine, you will be.
This is an article from the Washington Post on placebo and it's opposite, nocebo effect.
The Nocebo Effect: Placebo's Evil Twin
By Brian Reid
Special to The Washington Post
Tuesday, April 30, 2002; Page HE01
Ten years ago, researchers stumbled onto a striking finding: Women who believed that they were prone to heart disease were nearly four times as likely to die as women with similar risk factors who didn't hold such fatalistic views.
The higher risk of death, in other words, had nothing to with the usual heart disease culprits -- age, blood pressure, cholesterol, weight. Instead, it tracked closely with belief. Think sick, be sick.
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That study is a classic in the annals of research on the "nocebo" phenomenon, the evil twin of the placebo effect. While the placebo effect refers to health benefits produced by a treatment that should have no effect, patients experiencing the nocebo effect experience the opposite. They presume the worst, health-wise, and that's just what they get.
"They're convinced that something is going to go wrong, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy," said Arthur Barsky, a psychiatrist at Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital who published an article earlier this year in the Journal of the American Medical Association beseeching his peers to pay closer attention to the nocebo effect. "From a clinical point of view, this is by no means peripheral or irrelevant."
Barsky's target is drug side effects, which cost the U.S. health system more than $76 billion a year, according to a 1995 University of Arizona study. If even a small percentage of those costs are caused by patient expectations of harm, addressing the nocebo effect could save a nifty sum.
But convincing doctors that their patients' problems may be more than biochemical is no simple trick. The nocebo effect is difficult to study, and medical training leads doctors to seek a bodily cause for physical ills.
"Nocebos often cause a physical effect, but it's not a physically produced effect," said Irving Kirsch, a psychologist at the University of Connecticut in Storrs who studies the ways that expectations influence what people experience. "What's the cause? In many cases it's an unanswered question."
Looking for Trouble
The word nocebo, Latin for "I will harm," doesn't represent a new idea -- just one that hasn't caught on widely among clinicians and scientists. More than four decades after researchers coined the term, only a few medical journal articles mention it. Outside the medical community, being "scared to death" or "worried sick" are expressions that have long been part of the popular lexicon, noted epidemiologist Robert Hahn from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
Is such language just hyperbole? Not to those who accept, for example, the idea of voodoo death -- a hex so powerful that the victim of the curse dies of fright. While many in the scientific community may regard voodoo with skepticism, the idea that gut reactions may have biological consequences can't be simply dismissed.
"Surgeons are wary of people who are convinced that they will die," said Herbert Benson, a Harvard professor and the president Mind/Body Medical Institute in Boston. "There are examples of studies done on people undergoing surgery who almost want to die to re-contact a loved one. Close to 100 percent of people under those circumstances die."
But the nocebo effect can lead to more subtle outcomes as well.
Fifteen years ago, researchers at three medical centers undertook a study of aspirin and another blood thinner in heart patients and came up with an unexpected result that said little about the heart and much about the brain. At two locations, patients were warned of possible gastrointestinal problems, one of the most common side effects of repeated use of aspirin. At the other location, patients received no such caution.
When researchers reviewed the data, they found a striking result: Those warned about the gastrointestinal problems were almost three times as likely to have the side effect. Though the evidence of actual stomach damage such as ulcers was the same for all three groups, those with the most information about the prospect of minor problems were the most likely to experience the pain.
Despite the smattering of doctors' anecdotal reports and a few modest clinical studies, research on the phenomenon has not been robust, mostly for ethical reasons: Doctors ought not to induce illness in patients who are not sick.
Changing ethical standards have made it difficult to even repeat some of the classic nocebo experiments. In one century-old effort, conducted long before anyone thought up the word nocebo, doctors set an allergy sufferer wheezing by showing an artificial rose, proving that at least some aspect of the allergic response is stimulated by visual cues. In a study from the early 1980s, 34 college students were told an electric current would be passed through their heads, and the researchers warned that the experience could cause a headache. Though not a single volt of current was used, more than two-thirds of the students reported headaches.
Medical Distrust
But resistance to in-depth study of the nocebo effect rests on more than ethical reservations, said the CDC's Hahn. Belief, he said, does not have a strong place in the anatomy-centered world of modern medicine.
"The fact is that phenomena that essentially come down to what people believe are conceptually difficult in our medical system," Hahn said. "Health is thought to be a biological phenomenon. More psychosomatic elements are hard to deal with."
Science is wearing away at the wall between mind and body. With the aid of high-tech imaging devices, neurologists are getting better at taking pictures of the brain in action. In one blinded study last year, researchers found that patients with Parkinson's disease given a placebo released a brain chemical called dopamine, just as the brain exposed to an active drug would do.
That flood of brain chemicals, it appears, has everything to do with what the mind expects. In most cases, like the Parkinson's study, the outcome is positive -- the placebo effect in action. But for some patients -- depressed, wary of medication or worried about drug side effects -- getting a prescription filled is an angst-ridden experience. And such patients appear even more likely to exhibit those side effects.
Barsky has even sketched out a profile of the kind of patient likely to experience the nocebo effect -- worse side effects and poorer outcomes -- on a given drug. When Barsky sees a patient with a history of vague, difficult-to-diagnose complaints who is sure that whatever therapy is prescribed will do little to battle the problem, he says, those low expectations are inevitably met. The treatments usually fail.
"Whether you trust your doctor or not probably makes a huge difference in whether you report side effects, but there's almost no data on that," Barsky said. He hopes to include information about a person's psychology in an upcoming placebo-controlled clinical trial to see if patients with a particular outlook on life fare better or worse than other subjects.
Far more esoteric factors may also shape both the placebo and nocebo response. A Dutch study, for example, found that most people considered red and orange pills to be stimulating, with blue and green-colored pills more likely to have a depressant effect.
"One of the most important things about a pill is [its] color," said Daniel Moerman, an anthropologist at the University of Michigan-Dearborn who has studied the placebo and nocebo effects across different cultures. "That seems to be fairly widespread."
But the mind is a funny thing, and generic responses to color go just so far in explaining the placebo or nocebo response. Consider this: In Italy, Moerman says, blue placebos made excellent sleeping pills for women but had the opposite effect on men.
The apparent reason? "The Italian national football team's color is azzurri," he said. "Blue."
Brian Reid is a Washington area freelance writer.
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| Niamh |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 10:10:54 PM
That is really gross - about the no soap in the school. Ugh.
I really like this article for being more realistic about the risks of this.
http://www.vancouversun.com/Health/much%20knowledge%20exaggerate%20danger%20pandemic/1540616/story.html
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| Mikki |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 8:48:46 PM
It seems to me it could be like some sort of health regulation to have soap in the bathrooms at a school facility. I don't know, just my thinking, but thats ridiculous!
~~Blessings, Mikki Jo
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| KJD |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 7:28:26 PM
On the t-p issue - I stock up on that, and tampons...would really hate to be without, in case of emergency! I find myself buying a box almost every time I go to Target...I'm 45, so i'll probably end up donating to younger friends or the food pantry at some point! |
| NikkiBeaumont |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 7:09:27 PM
LOL, Cherry, on the bread and the milk. WHAT is up with that? All I can guess is that they expect to be reduced to eating sandwiches and cereal. And you are right, it is ingrained into our being. When I hear a snow forecast I automatically think "buy milk and bread", even as I have an opposite thought that there are probably a bunch of reactionaries clearing out the shelves at that same moment. I am disgusted with myself for being so easily programmed to follow the herd. Ha!
Well, talking about a substitute for TP. My mom had to tell her boss that the restroom at work was running low on TP, and since he knew that we were going to the Cornbread Festival he put in an order for us to bring back some corncobs! I didn't see any there, but I wish that I had a handy supply of them around. I would have loved to have hand delivered a bag to their office. Here's something, I know what he is going to get for Christmas!
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| 5 acre Farmgirl |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 6:53:27 PM
Same as the others....Flu is flu, not?
But, if quarantined, we could live for 3 or 4 weeks on what I have home canned and stored....
Farmgirl Sister #368
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| Alee |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 3:27:00 PM
OMG Cherry! That is so horrible! I can't believe that schools are cutting on SOAP! That is so disgusting!
If we needed to we would use clean rags or something for TP I mean we did cloth wipes for Nora when she was a baby so it's not all that much differnet. But I do prefer the paper!
Alee
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| CherryMeDarlin |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 09:41:53 AM
I'm with you, Alee, on that tp issue! It's what always comes to mind for me whenever I think of "stocking-up". Down here in the South we are known to make runs on stores for milk and bread whenever there's the slightest chance we MIGHT get snow. I've never understood that. I've always thought that I could do without bread or milk 'cause there's other things to eat and drink, but what're you gonna substitute for tp? 'Course I always get the bread & milk, too. Who am I to break tradition?
Mikki, our schools don't have soap in the bathrooms, either. I was told it was because of cost cuts and because of how big a mess the kids make with it. I argued the point as long as I could then just gave up when I realized I was beating a dead horse and went and bought my baby girl little bottles of hand sanitizer. Now whether she actually uses it or not, your guess is as good as mine!
~~Cherry~~
"A thing is as simple or as complicated as you make it." --TT Murphy |
| Alee |
Posted - May 02 2009 : 04:52:35 AM
EWWWW Mikki! I mean I know kids aren't always the best about washing hands- but not to even provide soap to begin with! EWWW!
We did a Costco run, but not because of the flu, but because we needed it. I was surprised to see how many people were there in the middle of the weekday- but I didn't hear anyone worrying about the flu. We do have the staples on hand and it should be about a year before we run out of TP again! 
Alee
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| Mikki |
Posted - May 01 2009 : 11:31:03 PM
The swine flu has been found here in Indiana but I haven't caught the news much today to know whats going on but I've told my son to wash and wash again too. He said they have hand sanitizer in every class and finally have soap in the bathrooms. I said finally? I can't believe they didn't already have soap in the bathroom. Not sure whats up with that but Im gonna be finding out.
~~Blessings, Mikki Jo
"Courage is being scared to death... but saddling up anyway" ***John Wayne
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| CherryMeDarlin |
Posted - May 01 2009 : 9:39:13 PM
Nikki, I laughed at the picture Heather painted, too! And Heather, I echo Nikki's sentiments. Ya'll are desperately underappreciated and not acknowledged as you should be! Hats off to you, Girl, and heartfelt gratitude being sent your way!
I wholeheartedly agree with the school closings. My baby girl's a junior in high school and right now they're watching movies everyday in 3 out of 4 of her classes. That 4th class is Spanish and the teacher taught my husband and his older brother and she gives "old school" new meaning! They'll have classwork right up to the very last day of school! I'm a bit nervous because she went to the Crawfish Boil in Birmingham tonight where there were hundreds of people. I told her to stay away from anyone coughing and to wash her hands then wash them again!
I kind of thought most of they hype would have died down by now. Maybe that was wishful thinking.
Mikki, that tub on the porch sounds heavenly!
~~Cherry~~
"A thing is as simple or as complicated as you make it." --TT Murphy |
| Mikki |
Posted - May 01 2009 : 8:41:54 PM
I've not went out and bought up any groceries, but as far as being prepared we have our cabin that we can stay at. It's actually my little getaway as many of you know or have seen on my blog. But we have made sure if our electric goes out in a bad snowstorm ect. that we will be warm and cozy there. It's completely primitive and we have a woodburning cookstove that is wonderful to cook on. My bathtub as of right now is a big trough that I set out on the porch to bathe in the summer. Soooo nice on a summer evening.
~~Blessings, Mikki Jo
"Courage is being scared to death... but saddling up anyway" ***John Wayne
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| catscharm74 |
Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 2:20:38 PM
Oh Nikki...thank you...I do appreciate it. Yes, I was on 2 different carriers. It certainly is a different life. : )
Heather
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| NikkiBeaumont |
Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 12:06:09 PM
Oh, wow! You must have been in the Navy. We watched "Carrier" on PBS and were very impressed with the dedication of the young men and women who served aboard. I was so proud of them, watching them hold up under considerable pressure day-in and day-out, diligently doing their jobs however menial and working toward moving up in the ranks. I wish that they would produce more of those types of shows so that the American public could fully appreciate what a TREASURE we have in our military. THANK YOU! (if I am correct in assuming that you were/are in the armed forces)
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| catscharm74 |
Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 11:17:07 AM
Having lived aboard ship for over 3 years of my life, one learns to handle crisis pretty well. I remember I could not get the smallpox vaccine because I thought I was pregnant and had to wait for my test to come back. Meanwhile, here I am, living in confined quarters with some pretty unclean females (trust me, females are far worse in hygiene on a ship than males...go figure, just going day by day. They made me hang a sheet over my rack (bed) to signal I was not immunized. Talk about paranoid people!!! I have been to the lovely Persian Gulf twice and God only knows what I inhaled, ingested or picked up from over there. I worry mostly about Charlie and all you ones. Ain't no pig taking me down!! I am too close to graduating!!! Darn it!!! : )
Heather
Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!
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| NikkiBeaumont |
Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 10:07:30 AM
I wish they would go ahead and close the schools. We really only have two more full weeks to go and do you honestly think that any learning is going to go on during that time? They are done with testing and now they are just coasting until it is over. Is it worth having them in there and potentially exposing them to this virus? I don't think so..
Heather, you made me laugh! Your left boobie fall off! Sounds like you have been through everything! And I wouldn't be surprised if everyone's boobies fell off with the garbage that we eat, breathe, and drink!
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| catscharm74 |
Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 08:01:45 AM
Honestly, if it gets that bad, I can break my lease and I will being to Kentucky to be with Scott. Being former military and having lived through smallpox scares and vaccinations, possible weapons of mass destruction poisionous gas and getting so many shots for things that someday with probably make my left boobe fall off and seeing people literally freak out over nothing, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt and caution. Just be vigilant but try to keep yourself busy and your mind busy. : )
Heather
Yee-Haw, I am a cowgirl!!!
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| CherryMeDarlin |
Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 07:55:31 AM
Nikki, did you hear the state health head-honcho on the news this morning? He advised parents to have a plan in place for extended school closings. He also said that if you feel sick to NOT go to your doctor's office, but to call first so they can just call you in something if they feel based on your symptoms that you might have it because they do not want you in their office around other patients if there's the slightest chance you might have it. YIKES!
The optimist in me wants to believe that too much is being made about this, but part of me is beginning to think that maybe I should take it more seriously. Especially in light of what Amie and Jodi say here. But then I think about what Elizabeth said and I don't know. Sometimes the media tells us way too much and sometimes I feel like they're keeping something from us. Know what I mean?
Did anyone else hear that Egypt's going to kill all of their pigs? Now is that intelligent preventative measures or taking it to an extreme? How can you know?
And has anyone else thought about how this is going to affect border control? The US already has an issue with illegal immigrants coming over from Mexico, don't you think there're going to be even more wanting to get here to escape getting it and unknowingly bringing it with them?
I suppose I'm just gonna take stock of my pantry and medicine cabinet and fill in the gaps. And I won't be buying canned ham either, Nikki!
~~Cherry~~
"A thing is as simple or as complicated as you make it." --TT Murphy |
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