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| laluna |
Posted - Sep 01 2008 : 1:17:23 PM
Just wondering why the Palin thread is locked. Are we not allowed to have political discussion here, particularly during election time? As an aside, I belong to another messageboard/fandom where there is an enormous array of diverse opinions, and we've been discussing the Palin issue quite civilly and intelligently all day.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." -- Frank Lloyd Wright |
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| CabinCreek-Kentucky |
Posted - Sep 03 2008 : 10:37:30 AM
all ya' need is love ... da-da-da-da-da .. all ya' need is love ... (and some ice cream with whipped cream and a cherry on top along with that would be nice too!) ohhh .. and a 'heap of hope' on the side!
True Friends * KENTUCKY FRANNIE
adopt a 'rag-chile'
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treasures .. new and olde .. http://mudpiemanormercantile.blogspot.com
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| lilwing |
Posted - Sep 03 2008 : 10:27:22 AM
That sounds REALLY good!!! Like the last hurrah of summer! 
Homemade vanilla ice cream and homemade lemonade... Woo!
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| deeredawn |
Posted - Sep 03 2008 : 06:38:33 AM
AMEN BROOKE! I, for one, am done with this thread....onto Lemonade & ice cream! (mmmm...is it me? or does that combo sound really good??)
Dawn M. Sista #279 (big grin!)
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| lilwing |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 9:10:26 PM
At first, I was thinking...why can't we all talk about this (politics)? But then I started thinking.. Well, Mary Jane wanted it this way for a reason, and I'm going to respect her wishes. I love the fact that this place doesn't have alot of the strife, pettyness, and arguements alot of other places have. Yes, maybe we can talk all about politics in a civil manner ..I know I could.. but yes, I agree, feelings sometimes get hurt and the internet is a place alot of words are misunderstood. If anyone knows that, I do. I adore this place that is calm.. it's almost a place to get away from the craziness of the world in a way ... that I can talk to other farmgirls and learn alot about the ways of the farmgirl ....and it's peaceful here... like sitting on the backporch with a gentle wind and some nice lemonade or something ...........but sometimes for me..politics and alot of controversial subjects of this manner get to be too much for me to handle. I usually go somewhere else if I want to see that, personally.
I hope we can all just move on about it.
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"The Higher the Hair, The Closer to Jesus!" - Paula Deen
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| Back Home Again |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 8:29:31 PM
glory...I am so glad you have repitched your tent! I so do appreciate your spirit!
Until Later,
Audrey
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| CountryBorn |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 8:07:41 PM
I think in most things there is always someone who will be offended by something. Especially in this age of being so politically correct that you have to check and recheck a simple thought before you say it so no one might be offended. I would never hurt anyone intentionally, I despise people who do things like that. For myself,if I find a post not to my liking, I just tune out now and don't read it.A couple of times I was a bit ticked off by the fact that some topics weren't considered perky and up beat enough to be discussed. But, I just decided not to let it bother me and just not answer that thread at all anymore. It seems to work better for me. We all have our own opinions and views on life and all it's complexities, but, how interesting to listen to someone elses opinion with an open and curious mind.
It doesn't mean you have to agree,just learning what makes other people tick is so fascinating, at least to me.
MJ
There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do. Freya Stark |
| misstilliewillie |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 7:44:42 PM
I have "repitched" my tent in the Land of Hope after reading Frannie's heartfelt post. It did my heart good to read it.
Frannie, you're amazing! Now I know why I go to your posts every chance I get...they're interesting and REAL!
Hope springs eternal!
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| CabinCreek-Kentucky |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 7:16:29 PM
glory .. i would love to be added to your phone or cyber 'chat' list!
gurlz .. there is so much i need to learn about this very important issue of political candidates that will be the leaders of our country soon. yes .. i can get that information elsewhere .. and yes, i do .. and yes, i do discuss this with friends in person and on other chat rooms (that are not at all geared specifically to political issues) .. these are just friends that i have chatted with over the months and years and have become friends and we enjoy our conversations on any subject because we all respect each other.
ever since retiring over 15 years ago .. i simply do NOT listen to the news on a regular basis ... sometimes it is just so depressing .. and while i do believe it is important to be kept informed of events near and far .. i pretty much leave it up to my husband to do the 'listening' and then talk to me about current events. HA! i've said it before .. but he has 'instructions' to give me fifteen minutes notice if he hears that the world is coming to an end .. so that i can call my chilluns and tell them one last time how deeply i love them! ..
I've worked in D.C. all my career .. and mostly for politicians. In these FREEDOM (retirement) years .. i have chosen to think mostly upon 'fluffier' subjects (like creating and antiquing and gatherings and decorating and travel and most of all my honey-man and children and grand-children!) glory .. i personally, soooo agree with you that it is unfortunate that we 'farmgirls and farmgirls at heart' cannot seem to be able to all include a major and important part of our lives in our conversations without seeming to upset some of us. and i also personally don't believe it is the original poster that has ever said anything 'inflaming' .. i don't understand for the life of me why we even READ what is not of interest to us or contrary to our beliefs if it is only going to 'riffle' us up to the point where we feel the need to be less than kind in response. i don't see any difference in talking with people 'on-line' .. on the phone or face to face. it makes me wonder why we farmgirls aren't able to accomplish that here too???
i love 'the question game' .. i adore asking questions .. i love the answers you all give .. i love hearing your stories .. about your families, critters, lives. i love the 'lighter' subjects and i love the 'heavier' subjects .. i often read postings of our deep sadnesses, trials and tribulations .. i read of our angers at family members and clerks in stores and neighbors .... not all of life is 'ice cream and cake' .. and being able to share the sad times with friends is important too. as is, i believe important events in our lives .. which would surely seem to sometimes include our religious beliefs .. goodness .. how many times do we ask for or offer up prayers (from all our sources of strength) .. and that is 'religion'. i have always believed that god doesn't mind if we question our beliefs or talk of them or share them or search for our own personal answers .. and OFTEN i have found solace in hearing of the faith of others (regardless of their choice of religion). i've never, ever taken offense at someone else's beliefs in religion or politics. gosh .. we could take offense at just about ANY subject if we "had a mind to". (that's a southern expression i learned recently).
well, anyhoo .. i don't write all this to churn up the butter .. but jus' to share my feelings and thoughts with all my gurlfrenz. xo
True Friends * KENTUCKY FRANNIE
adopt a 'rag-chile'
http://sistermercysfoundlinhome.blogspot.com
treasures .. new and olde .. http://mudpiemanormercantile.blogspot.com
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| willowtreecreek |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 7:07:31 PM
Laluna the main problem was that it WASNT being kept civil. There were two threads going on. The first one took a turn for the worse and was locked. Then a new one popped up and it was locked BEFORE anything got out of hand. I have some pretty "strong" opinions about BOTH political parties but on a forum where my voice can so easily be...misread, I choose not to speak my opinions! Im not sure of your viewpoints but I'd be happy to engage in some friendly banter via email if you are just itching for a discussion! ;)
We are guests in this "house" that MaryJane created. For whatever reason they prefer this topic not be discussed in the manner in which it was done. As guests we need to respect that.
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| StitchinWitch |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 7:06:52 PM
I agree with Dawn; religion, politics, abortion, and a few other topics are very highly personal and there are as many beliefs as there are people. I will not agree with everyone all the time, or even some of the time, but I respect their right to their own beliefs and opinions. Just as long as they don't force them on me...... that's when I turn around and walk away.
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| laluna |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 5:09:23 PM
Thank you to all who responded here and via e-mail. I truly appreciate everything that everyone had to say. I guess I'm just saddened by the fact that here's a gathering place of what I think are a great group of women who have so many different experiences and ideas to share, and that this election year should be a particularly good opportunity for U.S. (and other countries) citizens to engage in healthy debate, yet in my view, we're being discouraged from doing so. I feel that as long as we can keep it respectful and civil and it's something that a group of people want to do, why not? And, if you're worried because you are easily offended or too emotional about a topic, just don't click the thread title (or if you do, try to resist the temptation to click the reply button  ). I suppose it's easier said than done, but I also believe there is a time and a place for the discussion of things like politics (and religion, etc.), and certainly a public forum of the world's citizens where those who are willing to engage in such discourse should be "allowed" to do so. I may not agree with you, but if I'm honest, it'll make me think!
(As an aside, I keep referring to those beyond U.S. borders because on another forum I belong to, we've had people from Canada and Europe chime in - and why not, when the world will ultimately be affected by the outcome of this US presidential election?)
Okay, I've said my piece...I hope you can all understand where I was coming from. And again, thank you to those who took the time to respond. 
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." -- Frank Lloyd Wright |
| deeredawn |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 3:42:09 PM
I love this forum. It is the first and only forum I have ever in my 37 years joined. Every day I start out here, and I usually end my day here. I have learned the hard way to just keep my typing fingers still. If I feel like I am going to have a conflicting thought, I simply hit the delete button and backspace my thoughts away. If I reread something and it doesnt "sound" nice, I do the above mentioned exercise. Here's what I remeber as a child being raised by a great-Aunt that grew up during the Depression: always wear white gloves and a dress to Church, never eat the last bite on your plate,never discuss politics, pro-choice, or religion in public and be aware of the words you spit out as you may have to taste them later. The first 2 rules: I break all the time!! <you-know-what eating grin!!>
Dawn M. Sista #279 (big grin!)
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http://gypsycowgirlcreations.blogspot.com
"I figure if a girl wants to be a legend, she should go ahead and be one!"...Calamity Jane |
| one_dog_per_acre |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 3:41:10 PM
Well said Alee
Trish
Farmgirl Sister #91
Make cupcakes not war!
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| lilwing |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 3:23:06 PM
It was probably locked because the previous post on Palin some people didn't like, and some people got onto the poster about it.
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| willowtreecreek |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 2:23:43 PM
You guys have to remember that when we type there are no facial expressions or voice inflections. Every statements meaning is being translated by the reader. This can cause hurt feelings whether or not the hurt was intended. Everyonce in a while a topic comes up and it reaches that point where it is about to cross a line from "civil" to "chaotic". while I do not work at the farm my sense is that they locked the thread so no one ended up with hurt feelings. I have only ever seen a few threads locked in my 2+ years here. Sometimes we just don't know when to quit so Fortunatly the moderators are looking out for us and I believe considering what is the best interest of the group as a whole. Please do not be offended by it. Politics and religion are heated topic EVERYWHERE.
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| misstilliewillie |
Posted - Sep 02 2008 : 11:44:14 AM
Well, let me put my thoughts out there, since I started the whole subject! I, as a newbie, inadvertedly and with much enthusiam, posted the news about Palin being chosen as VP. I was NOT aware we, as ADULTS, and women and "girlfriends" and sisters, etc., were discouraged from discussing politics and religion on this forum. So, after reading some unkind, slightly testy posts in response to my innocent, enthusiasic ones, realized this subject was "off limits" to aforementioned. I offered an apology and a vow to not discuss politics/religion again on this forum. So, now I just call my real life girlfriends, and we talk to our heart's content about all the exciting events taking place in the US of A today! Each with our widely varying opinions...with an open, frank, honest attempt to discuss civilly and lovingly the history changing events that we are lucky enough to be a part of!!! And, oh, what FUN we're having!!!
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| Alee |
Posted - Sep 01 2008 : 7:11:12 PM
I can't speak for the Farm as to exactly why the topic got locked out, why they prefer that politics and religion aren't discussed, and such since I don't work there. However, I do
believe the moderators were only acting to try and keep people from getting their feelings hurt.
I think we must have one of the world's most unique communities of women. How often have we all heard that "Women just can't seem to get along together" and yet, every single day we prove that saying wrong. We are a community of strong women- sisters- that teach each other and learn from each other. I think, in the effort to keep this as a refuge from daily stresses, a resting place, a sisterhood, I think the moderators have had to make some tough calls on where to draw the lines of communication.
I think, if I remember from Carol's Forum Decorum post, nothing is exactly banned from being talked about here- but rather that the moderators simply ask us to be careful in our discussions. Perhaps the topic was locked out not because of anything in that particular topic, but the overall mood of the forum at the time? I don't know.
So I hope that we all, as sisters, can find forgiveness in our hearts for anyone who might have unintentionally hurt our feelings. This forum makes my days brighter because of the immense blanket of friendship that it creates. And winter is coming! I need all the blankets I can get!
Alee
Farmgirl Sister #8
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| CabinCreek-Kentucky |
Posted - Sep 01 2008 : 6:29:13 PM
Gurlfrenz .. oh lordy! where to start! i'll jus' jump right in and hope i don't drown!
well .. i've surely been feeling kinda' sad about the way we have been treating each other in some of the postings lately. i know that forums have their ups and downs from time to time and i'm jus' gonna' believe that this is jus' one of those little valleys and that we'll all climb back up to the mountain-top together!
i just made a posting under Across The Fence entitled: do you remember your first TriKe? before i saw this thread.
Thought i'd share those feelings (HA! plus some!) with you here too.
well .. unlike i've felt in the past .. when i went to hit the Post New Reply button on my little TriKe posting .. i got an overwhelmingly sad feeling about sharing my views with my gurlfrenz.
i do believe that Maryjane's Magazine being in bookstores now and more readily available has opened up a whole new world of wonderful new friends to all of us! that also means more personalities and more belief systems to be shared ..again .. how WONDERFUL!
i also believe that those of us who have been here a long time will (just like families) sometimes get a 'tad' on each others nerves .. OR as my little grand-daughter, Jennifer used to say when she was about five years old: "YOU are gittin' on my FUST nuv!" (nerve). And just like family members will sometimes do .. we take a little 'swipe' at each other .. of course, we are always sorry for it .. and being families and close to each other .. we end up apologizing and forgiving .. THAT happens here too, i believe!
i never have enough time to read every post in every thread .. gosh .. i rarely ever visit some of the threads .. either not enough time .. or jus' not of real interest to me at the time. AND .. if i ever do click onto something that i find either not of interest .. OR .. 'negative' to MY personal thinking .. i jus' go on to another thead .. without feeling the need to ZING or COMMENT or even finish reading it.
i LOVE and LIVE by this little sign hanging in our cabins:
pleeeeeeeeeeze do not take anything i have said here to be a 'zing' at anyone or any topic or belief .. i'm jus' sittin' across the table with some friends (ya'll) expressing how my heart feels tonight.
HA! i jus' thought of a funny line from the film "A Fish Called Wanda" ... that feels pretty appropriate for me right now:
"I sincerely and most devoutly APOLOGIZE if i have ever said anything in the past, am saying now ... or might say in the near or distant future that might offend your sensibilities .. i also apologize for anything my parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, aunts, uncles and cousins have, or will say in the future that might offend you!"
Remember the secene where the guy is being hung upside down by his heels out a window from a tall building! (now all ya'll that know me .. know this paragraph is spoken in LOVE and good humor!)
well .. anyhoo .. here is the little 'thought' i started out to share with you that i posted on the TriKe thread:
A SECOND THOUGHT: now gurlfrenz .. i gotta' warn ya' .. i'm feeling a little 'itchy on the trigger' cuz' it seems lately that when someone kindly speaks their opinion on some things .. they get zinged by a few farmgirls.
if you read my postings .. you know that i'm a 'nice guy' .. and that i love uplifting, positive, happy postings .. i also LOVE interesting, intelligent conversations too .. on ANY subject. i will give MY opinions from time to time (as above about Helmet Laws) .. and if you have a differing view (lordy .. this all just started out to be a picture of the cute little trike i got for my grand-daughter .. but sadly .. i had to read and re-read and re-re-read it again and again ... to make sure i had not overtly been too outspoken in the way i expressed my personal belief. now that, to me, is a sad thing!
i would only add to this MY personal feelings in that i ADORE reading kind postings and beliefs and opinions on ANY subject. xo
True Friends * KENTUCKY FRANNIE
adopt a 'rag-chile'
http://sistermercysfoundlinhome.blogspot.com
treasures .. new and olde .. http://mudpiemanormercantile.blogspot.com
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| chickabella |
Posted - Sep 01 2008 : 5:21:04 PM
Was wondering that myself...
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| laluna |
Posted - Sep 01 2008 : 5:19:03 PM
The silence here speaks volumes. I guess that's all I really needed to know. Thank you.
"I believe in God, only I spell it Nature." -- Frank Lloyd Wright |
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